Apple does NOT have a monopoly.
Walk into ANY store that sells Smartphones and there are dozens of choices.
Walk into ANY store that sells Smartphones and there are dozens of choices.
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Apple Facing Imminent U.S. Antitrust Lawsuit
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The old tizen galaxy watches actually worked ok. The main limitations were imposed by apple, not samsung.
It is in the national interest for innovation to continue. and now you have to persuade people, including government or regulators, to accept the consequences of the innovation. Consequence of an end to end encryption? Vendors who want to break at can’t get in to the chain. Consequences of not letting any old app into your pay by tap to chain? Increased trust in using your phone to pay. Consequences of designing your watch to work with your phone? An incredibly deep experience of software craft, where you can take calls on your watch, even though it doesn’t have its own cell account. Consequences of integrated secure, cloud computing? Ubiquitous convenience, where you can use any of your devices to work on the same workpiece. That’s enough from me 🍸😺You think of some more (it should be pretty easy.).🍸🐈
I have it, I don’t save, and I understand (and I’m again) these anti-trust laws.
1. Apple is not a monopoly.
2. We’ve seen how competition thrives in the tech market. The phone market completely changed in a few years. Nokia went from 30% to 0%. Build your own, yes.
Wrong, I have 4 Apple Watches, 3, 4, 7, Ultra 2. All but the 3 (discontinued) work very well with my iPhone 15 Pro Max. The 3 is working on its own, HomeKit no longer works; no big deal.
They do once you buy a device. The app store is definitely a monopoly in the US.
Not really an antitrust issue. Microsoft got in trouble because they made it very difficult to use competing browsers like netscape. Apple doesn't do that.
I think it’s funny that everyone here seems to think this is about consumers. It’s not about you.
It’s about other businesses and their ability to compete in marketplaces to ensure a strong US economy and large workforce (jobs).
It’s about other businesses and their ability to compete in marketplaces to ensure a strong US economy and large workforce (jobs).
I talked about regulators, not judges. Behind those regulations there is the arrogance that few people can know better than hundreds of companies and millions of users what is the best for those users. Obviously, tech companies are not "kinds of monopolies last seen in the era of oil barons and railroad tycoons.".
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Meta, Microsoft, X and Match Group challenge Apple over app store terms | CNN Business
Apple is flouting a court order intended to reshape the iPhone maker’s app store in the United States, according to a court filing by rival tech giants including Meta, Microsoft, X and the dating-app company Match Group.
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Apple is flouting a court order intended to reshape the iPhone maker’s app store in the United States, according to a court filing by rival tech giants including Meta, Microsoft, X and the dating-app company Match Group.
The filing accuses Apple of willfully circumventing the spirit of the original order, which was designed to unlock competition by forcing Apple to let app makers communicate with their users about deals and promotions in specific ways.
That order was effectively upheld by the Supreme Court earlier this year when the justices declined to hear the case involving Apple and Epic Games, maker of the hit video game “Fortnite.” But Epic, and now the four other tech companies, say Apple’s plan to comply with the order is a sham.
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Is it really the Justice dept planning to sue or is this just a legal filing by those four companies?
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Imminent, meaning it will happen next month?
More like tomorrow, at least according to Bloomberg:
ahhhh, your'e forgetting one thin: when it was introduced alongside FaceTime, Steve Jobs literally promised ON STAGE they would open it up or open source it (both) and make it into worldwide standards of which any company and any manufacturer that's not apple, could integrate with and implement in their devices, apps and services too, alas, this never came to pass, in part due to patent trolls like VirnetX battling Apple for supposed breach of their technologies in the underlying protocols for imessage and FaceTime.
But as most of those cases were either tossed out in court or settled or won by apple many years ago, it's about time Apple finally delivers on Steve's original promises for FT and iMsg, if not by themselves voluntarily, then through laws like the DMA and DSA in the EU or anti trust cases like this one in the US like whats happening now. Finally. It's about damn time!
Agree!
Let companies create the product they want and let me as a customer choose the product I want.
I may want a Spotify app that allows for in-app subscription management.
Without costing an arm and a leg in unnecessary transaction fees and commissions.
And Spotify seems to agree to want to create that product.
👉 So let Spotify create the product (app) in which I can pay directly with my credit card - and me choose that product.
Apple exists for the sole reason of maximizing its investors returns. open source software is certainly not a "****" experience either. Me thinks you've never actually used an open ecosystem.
I absolutely hate how lazy Apple has been on improving iPhone’s hardware and iOS. But I’m too invested in other Apple products (which I love) to move to an android phone. It’s about time Apple enjoy less of an ecosystem advantage and for other companies to have a more level playing field.
The only reason you think it's insane is because you and others don't grasp that these are the kinds of things anti-trust laws are supposed to prevent. And you as well as others will continue to think it's insane until you recognize this.
Did you disagree with Apple's complaint against Microsoft and how Apple wanted the government to step in to tell Microsoft how to operate its businesses?
An Apple Computer Inc. executive has told a federal judge that Microsoft Corp. used its market power to pressure Apple to promote Microsoft products and abandon competing products. The pressure continued, he said, even after government lawyers filed their antitrust lawsuit against the software giant.
"Microsoft does not hesitate to use its operating system monopoly power and application program dominance to try to eliminate competition, acquire control of new markets and block innovation that could challenge its position," Avadis Tevanian, an Apple senior vice president, said in written testimony submitted to U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson in Washington.
Tevanian's testimony was released yesterday as the non-jury trial of the Justice Department's antitrust case against Microsoft shifts its focus to the company's relations with Apple.
If we replace Microsoft with Apple, we get
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which is all true. And people will somehow defend Apple's behavior which is nuts.
This is really about the mobile operating system of which there are only two major players: iOS (which has the largest share in the U.S.) and Android. Besides, just because there are alternatives doesn't mean antitrust laws wouldn't apply or there couldn’t be a monopoly. Microsoft was declared a monopoly in computer operating systems in 1999 even though there were alternatives like Mac OS, OS/2, Linux, BeOS, etc.
Except all those laws are super vague and fairly discretionary. I mean one of the problems is
- How App Tracking Transparency impacted the collection of advertising data.
And being an illegal monopoly isn't just about being the largest player in the market. Microsoft for example was engaged in all sorts of behavior attempting to force competitors out of market segments they wanted to expand into. Embrace extend exterminate.