I had every iPhone until the 16. I returned both 16 Pro and 16 Pro Max. Boring and bad camera controls.
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Apple Falls to Third Place in China's Smartphone Market Amid Sales Decline
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I had 12PM until I bought my 15PM in 2023. That means 2 generation iPhones in between. But, did I feel any significant difference? NO. iOs18 runs in iPhone 12 too. So, nothing special in there. Instead of 2.5X zoom I got 5X zoom. 12 MP to 48MP photos, I can't see a lot of difference. Apple Intelligens is not available in Sweden for iPhones but I got it in my Mac. Is it very important for me? Nope. In recent years Apple did copy a lot from Android to minimize the difference but changing icon color is not so popular even in Android side.
I know that many innovations on Android manufactures looks good only on the paper. But they do try to bring them to the market and make it better in coming years. They are proud to work with other companies to make their products better. (Leica, Hasselblad etc.) Until US banned Huawei, their phones were better than any other smart phones. And they achieved it in a short period of time. Among DXOMARK, they still rule the ranking.
Apple can't continue with adding one or two minor upgrades every year and compare the device with 3-4 generations back. Apple has the best team of engineers and resource, but they lack innovation.
I know that many innovations on Android manufactures looks good only on the paper. But they do try to bring them to the market and make it better in coming years. They are proud to work with other companies to make their products better. (Leica, Hasselblad etc.) Until US banned Huawei, their phones were better than any other smart phones. And they achieved it in a short period of time. Among DXOMARK, they still rule the ranking.
Apple can't continue with adding one or two minor upgrades every year and compare the device with 3-4 generations back. Apple has the best team of engineers and resource, but they lack innovation.
All this worry about Apple sales in China is getting out of hand. Apples largest market are the Americas. When they start dropping my double digits here let me know. Until then, I could care less.
Not true in Japan, iPhone is most - in fact Japan and UK had the highest rate of iPhone users in the world two years ago. Haven’t checked on what has changed. In flagship devices, Apple wins almost everywhere except a few Asian countries.
Simple, i said this 5 years ago. Phones in general have plateaued. It's a slab of glass and metal with a camera, the rest is software.
It is almost like these things are run cycles, and Apple sells most phones the quarter after they released a new phone.How quickly people forget.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-sales-in-china-dropped-significantly-in-q1-2024.2424731/
Reported by the same company some more.
Followed by Apple going on to refute the report during their quarterly earnings.
Apple Reports 2Q 2024 Results: $23.6B Profit on $90.8B Revenue
Apple today announced financial results for the second fiscal quarter of 2024, which corresponds to the first calendar quarter of the year. For the...www.macrumors.com
You think users would have caught on by now, but I suppose the siren's call of getting to bash Apple at every opportunity is just too tempting to pass up. 🙃
But I guess we will know in another week or so.
Those numbers are different than Canalys' findings from last week
Canalys Newsroom - Mainland China’s smartphone market records 4% full-year growth in 2024, led by vivo
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Canalys' latest research reveals that Mainland China's smartphone market shipped 285 million units in 2024, marking a recovery after two years of decline with moderate year-on-year growth of 4%. vivo led the market for the year with a 17% market share, shipping 49.3 million units. Huawei ranked second with 46.0 million units shipped, achieving an impressive year-on-year growth of 37%. Apple, OPPO and HONOR followed in third, fourth, and fifth place respectively, each holding a 15% market share, highlighting the intense competition. In Q4 2024, driven by the high-end peak season, government subsidies and year-end promotions, the Mainland China smartphone market grew by 5% year on year, with shipments reaching 77.4 million units. Apple shipped 13.1 million units in its traditional peak season in the quarter, retaining the top spot. However, due to intensified competition from domestic brands, its shipments dropped by 25% year on year. vivo and Huawei followed closely, both capturing 17% of the market and ranking second and third, respectively. Xiaomi ranked fourth in Q4 2024 with 12.2 million units shipped, achieving the highest annual growth among the top vendors at 29%. OPPO ranked fifth with 10.6 million units shipped, achieving a year-on-year growth of 18% in Q4.
That's what Apple gets for selling same phone over and over and over and over again.
why choose? I simply use both (Android & iOS). With MultiSim, both are basically a clone of one another and it doesn’t matter which phone I take with me (or both). I even use the same Home Screen layout on both.
While Apple is befow their peak they are still above their average in Japan
Apple's revenue in Japan 2023 | Statista
Apple generated almost 24.3 billion U.S. dollars in Japan in fiscal year 2023. The Japanese market was one of the most important markets for the company.
www.statista.com
In China and many other countries, it's the apps that matter. Everyone's lives revolve around WeChat in China. As long as a phone can run the app, the phone doesn't really matter and gives them a lot of freedom to jump from one manufacturer to the other. Unlike here in the States, we get tied to the manufacturer's ecosystems.
This is what happens when you don't include basics like WiF-7 and focus on gimmicks like a camera TouchBar.
Yet people keep using Apple still… people complain but won’t leave Apple
Wi-Fi specifications for all iPhone 16 models are detailed in the table below. All iPhone 16 models support Wi-Fi 7 in the 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, and 6 GHz bands and Multi-Link Operation (MLO).
Wi-Fi specifications for Apple devices
Learn about Wi-Fi specifications for Apple devices.
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Maybe sells it at $499 instead of $799 for base model. I mean 60Hz OLED, measly 128GB storage and USB 2.0 interface in 2025? That would still make it boring, but tolerably so.
Apple would lose a lot more globally if these Chinese brands would shed Android and develop their own OS. I would abandon iPhone immediately for a Xiaomi smartphone!
Spot on. And strongly encourages citizens and companies purchasing the same.
People here seem to insist on forgetting about that.
The iPhone used to have China on lock as a luxury item. However, Chinese manufacturers have outdesigned, out-innovated, and now have outsold Apple's stagnant offerings.
I really wish Apple would make a stronger push on the software side to at least have parity with Android. Who would've thought?
I really wish Apple would make a stronger push on the software side to at least have parity with Android. Who would've thought?
Your comments are pure hubris. Android and Chinese/South Korean hardware are the cat's meow. Yeah, several years ago, it was hard to compete with Apple. But now, Apple is struggling to keep parity. iPhone has a better camera/video? You really need to use a Sony Xperia or a Samsung Galaxy Ultra Series.
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In China, South Korea and Japan its the innovative phones that people want like the flip and folding flagship Android phones. IPhones as good as they are, are boring slab phones so are just not that exciting in these markets. Specs like 60hz screens in the regular iphones don't help matters either.
That's not as bright of a post as you think it is.
There is Huawei Harmony OS Next. It’s proprietary and developed from scratch (not based on Android). It is now available in China for their latest models. However, it’s still not available globally, as far as I understand but I might be wrong. If it was, I’d buy a Pura 70 to try it out. I believe it will also be released globally too at some point. The caveat is it doesn’t support any Google apps but to me it’s a plus, I avoid Google anyway.
