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Apple Feb 28th Event Video Clips

nagromme said:
Apple invited people to a smaller-than-usual event, and promised very little: "fun."

That's subjective--nothing is "fun" to everyone.

Now, OUTSIDE parties blew the hype out of control. iBooks! Movie store! Tablet Macs! Video iPod! There's the source of the "disappointment."

The iPod Hi-Fi looks like a good value and good at what it does. If you don't NEED what it does, then no harm done. Apple CAN survive having some products that don't change the world, but merely do a job well.

The Mac Mini looks GREAT though--many upgrades over the old model--and complaints that a low-end machine must be for 3D gamers don't make sense to me. I choose to wait for REAL reports of the GMA950 performance before I whine. Apple claims the new Mini CAN play 3D games and supports hardware-accelerated Core Graphics. Which games? How fast? We'll know soon--but high-end 3D is not the goal of a low-end Mac.

I think a lot of complaints stem from Apple not having a MID-range headless, below the PowerMac. So people try to make the Mac Mini into something it's not. I hope Apple adds a mid-range headless sometime, with a higher GPU.

But what the Mini IS is a very fast and capable consumer system for iLife, Internet, general productivity, and lightweight gaming.
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At last, a voice of reason..
 
I dont think the presentations were that bad in general. I think he did a good job but the products were just hard to hype up. The price was a bit hi for the case though.

Roger
 
I've tried to explain this to myself over and over, that we overhyped all this, and that Apple didn't do anything wrong. What I've come up with:


After being a dedicated Mac user in a windows world,

After talking up Apple to all my friends, and trying to get them to switch,

After following Apple's R & D and actually "believing" in a corporation,

After seeing this, they decide to try and exploit my loyalty by suckering me into buying a $99 ipod case. Feels like a kick in the teeth, somehow.

I can get past the lackluster announcement, or that the HiFi is a tad expensive and ugly. But $99 for that case? It's the same reaction when you're at a flea market, and the hawker thinks you don't know what something is really worth, and tries to take you for a ride. A natural first reaction is, "you can take your product and shove it up your...."

I think a lot of us can stomach the high prices of Apple products because we actually believe that the product costs more to produce, is of higher quality, etc... but the case price makes me wonder if they haven't simply succeeded in suckering me into some sort of misplaced brand loyalty.
 
w_parietti22 said:
I agree, Steve was not his usual self.
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There's something going around (in California). I know a lot of people who are sick right now. I was just last weekend. Steve must have caught it too.
 
daysleeper said:
After seeing this, they decide to try and exploit my loyalty by suckering me into buying a $99 ipod case. Feels like a kick in the teeth, somehow.
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How did they manage that? Is there some trickery at work that I missed?

It's overpriced. Don't buy it. It wasn't the main attraction on Tuesday.
 
The whole presentation was a kick in the face.

- The case is a total joke. Even with the "Apple tax" it should have topped out at the most $50.

- iPod Hi-Fi, well I cant really comment on this seeing as I haven't heard anything from it but come on! At $350 its a complete joke. Average people who want "high quality" will buy something they have heard of (i.e. Bose Soundock) that has a rep for speakers. Other "Audiophiles" will avoid Apple all together when finding speakers. Why would they go to Apple for speakers. I think this just came out wrong. It should be at most $250 to be competitive and be able to seperate the speakers for a left and right channel.

- The mini is also a downgrade in my opinion. A core solo is fine if you frickin' kept the damn thing at the same price it was. But no they had to jack it up another $100! They really didn't need to upgrade the mini at this time. They could have waited until the chips are cheaper, not only that they got rid of the GPU! On board memory come on Apple!
 
and what is next...

don't tell me they are getting rid of the floppy disk drive please 😀

On a serious note, on board or integrated graphics are not what they used to, and the one the new minis are using is not worst than what it is replacing. Generally speaking the machine is better now, and it is still a good entry level. (BTW, the 100 price increase is the wireless upgrade almost everybody was getting anyway). This machine is for folks who will get it out of the box, plug it in, and use it for 3 years, then sell it on eBay and get a new one. This is not for the "I wanna upgrade/expand my mac every month" guys.

Dr. Dastardly said:
- The mini is also a downgrade in my opinion. A core solo is fine if you frickin' kept the damn thing at the same price it was. But no they had to jack it up another $100! They really didn't need to upgrade the mini at this time. They could have waited until the chips are cheaper, not only that they got rid of the GPU! On board memory come on Apple!
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Dr. Dastardly said:
- The case is a total joke. Even with the "Apple tax" it should have topped out at the most $50.
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Agree. I'll be nice if I ever see one in public, but I think being seen with one says a lot more about the person than it does about Apple.

Dr. Dastardly said:
- iPod Hi-Fi, well I cant really comment on this seeing as I haven't heard anything from it but come on! At $350 its a complete joke. Average people who want "high quality" will buy something they have heard of (i.e. Bose Soundock) that has a rep for speakers.
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I don't like the HiFi either, but as far as Bose goes, Apple has at least as much brand name recognition as them, if not much more due to iPod, iTunes, and their computers. While the HiFi isn't going to be replacing anyone's nice 5.1 any time soon, it's a beginning for a field they want to get into instead of taking a small cut from the sale of competitor boomboxes.

Dr. Dastardly said:
Other "Audiophiles" will avoid Apple all together when finding speakers.
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I'm not buying into Apple's audio hyperbole over the HiFi, but boomboxes and speaker systems are night and day apart when it comes to what people buy them for.

Dr. Dastardly said:
- The mini is also a downgrade in my opinion. A core solo is fine if you frickin' kept the damn thing at the same price it was. But no they had to jack it up another $100! They really didn't need to upgrade the mini at this time. They could have waited until the chips are cheaper, not only that they got rid of the GPU!
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Totally disagree. Some friends asked me about versions 1 and 2 of the Mac Mini and I told them to avoid it like the plague - it was pure junk outside of OS X. This 3rd revision *finally* has some cojones to it, what with the much faster processor, 667mhz front side bus (instead of that horrible 167mhz), 512mb memory, 7200rpm hard drives, and better BTO options. While the graphics card is underwhelming, in all fairness given the case space constraints and the price tag, it's unrealistic to expect a full-blown GPU in it. Coupled with Apple's terrific software, I strongly considered buying one for about 10 minutes before snapping out of it since I'm waiting for the 13.3" iBook or Powermac for my next purchase.
 
MacRumors said:
Curiously, Apple is not offering the presentation for streaming/download on their site. Typically Apple has posted their Quicktime videos of their presentation following a media event.
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Makes sense to me - why would Apple want to release a video of this sub-par event?
 
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