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Apple Files Lawsuit Against HTC Over Alleged iPhone Patent Infringement

I would like to know exactly what features are supposedly being infringed upon.

Padraig said:
Strange development this as HTC were selling/announced touchflo (now HTC sense) phones before the iPhone. Like the Nokia lawsuit I can't see this ending well for Apple.
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HTC have been making PDA's/phones for a while. I still own a Blue Angel model (branded a Siemens SX66).
 
zorinlynx said:
This is NOT good. A market in which the iPhone is the only option is a horrible market indeed.

Having a choice is a good thing. If Apple manages to destroy HTC, Android, Palm, etc... we'll no longer have a choice. And that's a horrible situation.

We all love Apple for different reasons. I love the Mac. You love the iPhone. I can understand it, but at the same time, I'd rather there continue to be competition, because it keeps companies on their toes providing amazing stuff for us to play with at prices most of us can afford.

-Z
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It's not about destroying HTC or anyone else. It's about clarifying who can use what implementation of what technology, and how.

It's a bit suspicious that after June 2007 all iPhone "competitors" began rolling out devices looking and acting like the iPhone. I guess they were all sitting on their patents and decided to implement them in 2015, except Apple managed to steal them earlier in 2007. LOL, right.
 
clevin said:
lol, you guys really think palms suck so bad that they hold no important patent during the whole process of 10 years making first smartphone called treo?

be objective, at least try.


oh com'on now, Nexus One does dynamic background, multi-tasking, good notification, what did it copy iPhone again?
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They are going after Palm, extra hard. Jobs has a hard on for Rubinstein.

Here's a little patent law fun fact for you - if Apple infringes something that is a small part of the iPhone, and Palm or HTC infringes something that is a major part of their phones, when the dust settles Apple walks away with a giant pot of money for past infringement, and the inevitable cross-licensing agreement results in money flowing toward, not away, from Apple. They are doubtless taking this calculus into account.
 
*LTD* said:
It's not about destroying HTC or anyone else. It's about clarifying who can use what implementation of what technology, and how.

It's a bit suspicious that after June 2007 all iPhone "competitors" began rolling out devices looking and acting like the iPhone. I guess they were all sitting on their patents and decided to implement them in 2015, except Apple managed to steal them earlier in 2007. LOL, right.
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so what's your opinion about Nokia's case against apple?

if apple were to come up with a multitasking or notification system like palm pre, do you want palm to sue apple?
 
Normally Apple uses their patent portfolio only in a defensive manner. Apple gets sued first and countersue. IMHO there have been extensive negotiations between Apple and HTC already that failed enough for Apple to go to court over them.
 
cmaier said:
They are going after Palm, extra hard. Jobs has a hard on for Rubinstein.

Here's a little patent law fun fact for you - if Apple infringes something that is a small part of the iPhone, and Palm or HTC infringes something that is a major part of their phones, when the dust settles Apple walks away with a giant pot of money for past infringement, and the inevitable cross-licensing agreement results in money flowing toward, not away, from Apple. They are doubtless taking this calculus into account.
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lol, fun fact? you can sit here and say "this is small part", that is "major part", lol, who do you think you are? judge?

is GSM technology a major part in iPhone?
is grid like launcher UI system a major part in iPhone?
 
Mykbibby said:
"We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it. We've decided to do something about it," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours."

Steve Jobs said that? Sounds a lot like Katie Cotton to me...
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Haha. I believe Katie Cotton added the line in bold. :D The rest was Steve himself.

I hate software patents. Hate them. Hate them. Hate them.

I hope Apple doesn't plan on spending a lot of time and money on this, and they're just wanting HTC to settle quickly.
 
Lcd

What the hell...

Will Samsung sue Sony for making LCD TVs?
Then Sony suing LG, then LG suing Sharp, then Sharp suing Apple, then Apple suing Samsung, then Samsung suing Panasonic, then Panasonic suing Sanyo, then Sanyo suing Toshiba, then Toshiba tusing Sony, then Sony suing Apple, then Apple suing LG, then LG suing LG, then LG suing LG...

Piece of junk...
 
Padraig said:
Strange development this as HTC were selling/announced touchflo (now HTC sense) phones before the iPhone. Like the Nokia lawsuit I can't see this ending well for Apple.
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It makes absolutely no difference who started selling it first. HTC started selling sense phones long after apple filed its patents (and, if I recall correctly, after Apple announced iPhone - not that that matters for patent law). (And, in the U.S., all that matters is invention date, so typically, to invalidate a patent, you have to prepare to beat the filing date by a year).
 
jaw04005 said:
Haha. I believe Katie Cotton added the line in bold. :D The rest was Steve himself.

I hate software patents. Hate them. Hate them. Hate them.
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That's nice. None of the iphone patents that have been listed on the internet in the last year or so are software patents. All of them start with something like:

We claim:

1. A portable device for ....
 
So I'm waiting for the "If you can't innovate, litigate" comments you guys posted when Nokia sued Apple.

ahhh, double standards :rolleyes:
 
clevin said:
so what's your opinion about Nokia's case against apple?

if apple were to come up with a multitasking or notification system like palm pre, do you want palm to sue apple?
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There would be people here defending Apple in such a scenario until they're blue in the face.
 
zorinlynx said:
This is NOT good. A market in which the iPhone is the only option is a horrible market indeed.

Having a choice is a good thing. If Apple manages to destroy HTC, Android, Palm, etc... we'll no longer have a choice. And that's a horrible situation.
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What makes you think there won't be a choice? The market will always have plenty of phones to choose from. Apple isn't complaining about all of HTC's phones, merely the few that violate Apple's patents related to the iPhone.

Competitors can make any phone they want, but if they primarily copy the iPhone you get your horrible market where everything looks alike. Instead HTC should innovate their way to new kinds of phones and let the market decide. Apple makes the iPhone. Other companies should make their own kinds of phones and not just copy Apple.
 
cumanzor said:
So I'm waiting for the "If you can't innovate, litigate" comments you guys posted when Nokia sued Apple.

ahhh, double standards :rolleyes:
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Nokia wasn't the one who changed the mobile landscape in June 2007, with everyone releasing phones that looked and acted like Nokia phones shortly after.

Apple released the iPhone - really unlike anything else out there - and then suddenly we saw iPhone-like smartphones everywhere, many that were eerily similar, if not by all appearances visible copies.
 
I take it we can expect a countersue from HTC?

HTC have been in the smartphone business a *tad* longer than Apple also, is there any chance Microsoft and Google could be bought into the fray?
 
clevin said:
so what's your opinion about Nokia's case against apple?

if apple were to come up with a multitasking or notification system like palm pre, do you want palm to sue apple?
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Yes, I would hope and expect that. Patents lay the ground work for what companies can and can't do. If companies want to risk infringing on other companies patents, they should be sued.

P-Worm
 
At least this shows that Apple is starting to get wary of the competition. They're probably suing HTC because Google's too big of a target at the moment. Still ********.

The ‘849 Patent, entitled "Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image," was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ‘849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C.
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I mean, really?
 
cumanzor said:
So I'm waiting for the "If you can't innovate, litigate" comments you guys posted when Nokia sued Apple.

ahhh, double standards :rolleyes:
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No double standard at all. Apple innovates all the time. Now they are also litigating. The world is not black and white.
 
I am taken aback by Steve Job's quotes. You allege patent violations when filing a case and normally people do not call the defendants Thieves until proven guilty. This is quite unbecoming of a CEO of a company like Apple... We will all be quite offended if Nokia had called Apple a thief.
 
Till we get notice of what the patents were, and how HTC infringed...

Not much conclusive to say.
Nokia vs Apple vs HTC & Kodak...

A legal opinion on the need to litigate if someone infringes on your patents might be useful (e.g. if you delay in making a lawsuit over someone infringing, does that have negative effects on your patent rights?)
 
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