The Powerbook is hardly innovative. It's just a small Macintosh.
The iPod is hardly innovative. It's just a an overpriced hard drive based MP3 jukebox.
I could go on. But that would hardly be innovative.
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Apple Files Lawsuit Against HTC Over Alleged iPhone Patent Infringement
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The Powerbook is hardly innovative. It's just a small Macintosh.
The iPod is hardly innovative. It's just a an overpriced hard drive based MP3 jukebox.
I could go on. But that would hardly be innovative.
You can't tell whether a patent is ambiguous or not just from the title. Usually the claims are pretty specific.
You just described about every single patent ever. The entire system is broken, forcing companies to reenact the cold war.
I don't see what the has to do with it. That's like saying only those who have made the biggest splash deserve to be rewarded for their patents. Actually, it's the company who has come up with the patent that deserves to be rewarded, regardless of how big or small they are.
Its the way tech works. Everyone was copying a flip style phone after the Star-tac got big.
Hell, one could argue Apple saw the Palm Pilot/Treo app launcher as a smart and UI friendly launcher (it makes the most sense for ease of use) so they used that for their phone.
Whats funny however is HTC def. was working on a full touchscreen device aronud the same time the iphone was being worked on:
The HTC Touch came out June 5th 2007...ain't no way they saw the iPhone and scrambled to copy it for June. (not saying i liked the phone cause Win Mo 6 was terrible...but this is what started their touchflo/sense UI)
IPhone announced January 2007 at Macworld, with features demo'd. Pretty much a how-to seminar for the rest of the industry.
That HTC Touch copycat announced June 5, 2007. Plenty of time (from January to June) for HTC to slap a hasty touch interface onto Winblows Mobile.
Hmm, it seems then they should have been FIRST with a multitouch UI then right? Your wrong... As soon as Apple came out with the touch UI (first iteration even) all the others did... Apple should sue them all! Just rip off because if Apple can get it right on the FIRST try, why can't the others who have been around so long? It's a strait up ripp off... Typical PC move.
Of course! Nokia was waiting until 2018 to implement the patents Apple stole! Nokia was just waiting for the right moment to change the whole mobile game. LOL
What is very funny to see here, is that if any company files a case against apple a lot of people getting angry ( I know this is a Apple forum but not one for the blind or mad)
If Apple is filing a case against other companies it is OK, whatever the reason is.
I think every company has the same rights ......!!!!!
You a long time lurker?
The HTC touch was RELEASED June 5th. You can not develop a touch interface (that worked) and a new product in that short amount of time.
Lets even add that the HTC Touch Flo UI wasn't at all like the iPhone UI so I don't even know what you are insinuating they copied.
Thats the problem, I think.. that HTC should have kept there origional design and not tried to make it look like the iphone. The same with the Nexus One, They need a UI that does not look like the iphone.
I'm not talking about "touch screen" but about when you look at the menu system and how you manage applications, would a resonable non-techie say that kind of looks like the iphone. It needs to be unique.
I agree but it is sort of cool to let HTC make million's of these things first, prove loss, then file your lawsuit... Apple deserve's to win this one BIG!
Wrong!
The HTC Elf, the original codename for the Touch, was first announced in December 2006, a month before the iPhone.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2006/12/29/meet-your-shiny-new-2007-htcs/
Upper right corner on that picture. That's the Elf, the Touch prototype. The buttons changed, but it's the same phone and same concept.
And if you think 5 months (the amount of time between the iPhone and Touch announcements) is enough time to develop a whole new interface and get it out to production, you know absolutely NOTHING about software development. There is absolutely no way in hell an interface is being written from scratch in 5 months. It is just not happening. Period.
And I always find it interesting that the same people who bitch about other companies suing Apple for infringing patents are the first to yell "Go Apple! Sue the hell out of those thieves!" when Apple sues somebody else for infringing patents. Damn fanboys.
It's easy for you to say that but do you have any patents or intellectual works being infringed upon? NO! There's nothing wrong with competition as long as the designers don't steal ideas and patents! It's always easy to sit back and make these statements. If Apples the only maker of a certain technological patent then I guess you have to buy that!
It's hilarious that all these companies in tech allegedly hold such innovative patents, yet Apple seems to be the one always releasing game-changing products for consumers to use, and are usually the first ones to bring them to market.
Perhaps these also-rans should simply hand over their patents to Apple so they could actually do something with them.
Perhaps these also-rans should simply hand over their patents to Apple so they could actually do something with them.
ok but Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal so in fact he is also a hypocritical fool
also these are the patents being infringed and as you can see almost all of them are BS patents that should have never been granted:
* The 331 Patent, entitled "Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States," was duly and legally issued on April 22, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
* The 949 Patent, entitled "Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics," was duly and legally issued on January 20, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 949 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit B.
* The 849 Patent, entitled "Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image," was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C.
* The 381 Patent, entitled "List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display," was duly and legally issued on December 23, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 381 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit D.
* The 726 Patent, entitled "System And Method For Managing Power Conditions Within A Digital Camera Device," was duly and legally issued on July 6, 1999 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 726 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit E.
* The 076 Patent, entitled "Automated Response To And Sensing Of User Activity In Portable Devices," was duly and legally issued on December 15, 2009 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 076 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit F.
* The 105 Patent, entitled "GMSK Signal Processors For Improved Communications Capacity And Quality," was duly and legally issued on December 8, 1998 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 105 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit G.
* The 453 Patent, entitled "Conserving Power By Reducing Voltage Supplied To An Instruction-Processing Portion Of A Processor," was duly and legally issued on June 3, 2008 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 453 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit H.
* The 599 Patent, entitled "Object-Oriented Graphic System," was duly and legally issued on October 3, 1995 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 599 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit I.
* The 354 Patent, entitled "Object-Oriented Event Notification System With Listener Registration Of Both Interests And Methods," was duly and legally issued on July 23, 2002 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the 354 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit J.
Uh, yeah, that's how patent law works. You don't have to actually use a patent to own it and sue the hell out of anyone who infringies on it.
Precisely the opposite. They are innovating in the area of multitouch, and the iPad shows great strides being made. It is so much more than an iPod touch. The fact that are modifying the interface to allow iWork apps to be used with fingers is incredible. And don't forget the way trackpads have been changed to allow multitouch gestures.
The future is a mouse-less world, and Apple is innovating their way into that future. If you can't see it yet, you will.
Almost certainly this is true. It depends what exact patents are being infringed I suppose, but noone (apart from the lawyers) knows that yet.
EDIT: http://gizmodo.com/5483632/apple-sues-htc-for-infringing-on-20-iphone-patents looks damn cheeky of Apple to me.