Profit or not its the same principle. Metallica didn't want their product fished our for free. Was profit made on it by Napster, probably not, but its still distribution of other peoples product.
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Apple Files Lawsuit Against Teenager Who Sold White iPhone 4 Conversion Kits, Settlement Reached?
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Profit or not its the same principle. Metallica didn't want their product fished our for free. Was profit made on it by Napster, probably not, but its still distribution of other peoples product.
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Not to mention Apple could have the Feds come down on them for selling stolen good across state lines. Apple went easy on them. They can't just let people sell stolen parts. Come on people.
RalfTheDog said:
Not to mention Apple could have the Feds come down on them for selling stolen good across state lines. Apple went easy on them. They can't just let people sell stolen parts. Come on people.
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"None" can be singular or plural. Actually, it's usually plural. It is NOT a contraction of "not one". YOU need to get an education.
chris200x9 said:
"None" can be singular or plural. Actually, it's usually plural. It is NOT a contraction of "not one". YOU need to get an education.
Hmm, Luke 6:42. Of course, that reference is related to a much more stringent set of rules, specifically to love everyone (Lu. 10:27). Really freaking hard. Apparently.
Apple's rules for its kingdom are much simpler. Some of us can claim to be "righteous" under that set, although I'd love to hear that "beam" you mention described, esp in comparison to the "speck" of felony theft.
So apple had a press conference about it for what? A non-existant problem?
My point still remains, how come apple didnt release the white iPhone 4 last june? If it is because it was defective, then why did they release a defective iphone 4 black. This kid filled a void, let him keep his profits and have him stop selling it.
Also I said I dont own a iphone 4, doesnt mean I havent owned one before.
If you can lose signal just by bridging the gap with anything, then there is a design flaw period! Whether it affects you or not on a day to day basis is pointless
Oh boo hoo. If Apple doesn't protect its trademarks equally across the board, it can lose claim over its trademarks. So suck it.
It's no less wrong for a kid to do this than for a multi-person enterprise. If a company was selling stolen parts, they'd be in court having their profits seized just the same. Apple is entitled to pursue thieves regardless of their age or number.
To those who criticize Apple for pursuing their legal rights, if it's okay for this kid to sell stolen items, at what point would you deem it unacceptable? If there were 3 people? 10? 20? 100? At 25 years old? 30? 40? Either it's fine for anyone to sell stolen items or it's never okay for anyone to, and your desire for - or perceived entitlement to have - a white iPhone is utterly irrelevant.
To those who criticize Apple for pursuing their legal rights, if it's okay for this kid to sell stolen items, at what point would you deem it unacceptable? If there were 3 people? 10? 20? 100? At 25 years old? 30? 40? Either it's fine for anyone to sell stolen items or it's never okay for anyone to, and your desire for - or perceived entitlement to have - a white iPhone is utterly irrelevant.
+1, where are the ethics from everyone who thinks this is ok, good, etc?
How far down our society has gone when people clearly doing illegal activities get support.
So apple had a press conference about it for what? A non-existant problem?
My point still remains, how come apple didnt release the white iPhone 4 last june? If it is because it was defective, then why did they release a defective iphone 4 black. This kid filled a void, let him keep his profits and have him stop selling it.
Also I said I dont own a iphone 4, doesnt mean I havent owned one before.
If you can lose signal just by bridging the gap with anything, then there is a design flaw period! Whether it affects you or not on a day to day basis is pointless
The iphone 4 is not defective, last i checked i was still able to perform all functions promised by apple. I agree it suffers from signal degradation (when gripped in a fashion that covers the gap in the antenna) which is made worse due to at&t network issues in some places, but if i remember correctly that press conference showed 3 other phones that had signal degradation when gripped in a similar fashion. And those phones don't have an external antenna or anything else external that should cause the signal to drop.
Also there was that whole signal bars not representative of actual signal strength which was fixed immediately. but like you said if you can lose signal just by bridging the gap with your hand (its your hand by the way bridging the gap with plastic does not cause signal to drop) but the phone continues to perform its intended functions who cares. whether it affects me on a day to day basis is the main point, most people don't care what their signal strength is if they can make and receive calls and perform other functions that's really all they care about.
I think it is pretty well established the white iphone was delayed because it did not meet apple's quality standards. And as far as i know the white iphone did not fix any of the so called problems that existed in the black iphone.
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Quick someone made a douchbag apple meme
Refuses to sell the white iphone. Sues anyone who makes one.
Quick someone made a douchbag apple meme
Refuses to sell the white iphone. Sues anyone who makes one.
It's not clear to me what this teenager did that differs from what other 3rd party manufacturers do when they make accessories for the iPhone 4. There have been no criminal charges filed against this kid, so it appears the accusation that he was trafficking stolen goods was baseless. So, where's the rub?
I dislike you a lot less for supporting trafficking in stolen goods. Are you in the Mob also?
You people are pretty intense.
Theft, like property, is a relative concept and fairly new to human civilization. Stealing the "rights to a logo" and then selling a marginal amount to customers who quite obviously know that they aren't receiving OEM hardware isn't equatable to murder in my book. Of course you guys take "apple's good name" REALLY seriously.
It is what it is though. In this country the corporation is God and if you don't play by the corporation's rules then you pay the price.
There was a time when a multinational corporation coming after a kid and his parents would have upset and worried a lot of people, no matter how "misguided" his behavior may have been. You rabid lot seem ready enough for a lynching. Scary, scary stuff.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this kid didn't hurt anyone or present a significant risk to Apple's interests (which shouldn't be protected anyway, but apparently we no longer believe in "meritocracy" and any and every idea, notion, image, thought, gesture, etc. can be copyrighted by the multinationals and brought against children and their parents) and if you believe that apple is RIGHT for attack a KID and the kid is WRONG to the point of having his parents sued then your morality is suspect. Who endorses that sort of police state totalitarianism? You all are going to tell me you've never stolen anything, ever? Threaten the kid with a lawsuit and be on your way Apple; this (frequent) legal severity is making me think of backing a different horse altogether.
What a world.
Theft, like property, is a relative concept and fairly new to human civilization. Stealing the "rights to a logo" and then selling a marginal amount to customers who quite obviously know that they aren't receiving OEM hardware isn't equatable to murder in my book. Of course you guys take "apple's good name" REALLY seriously.
It is what it is though. In this country the corporation is God and if you don't play by the corporation's rules then you pay the price.
There was a time when a multinational corporation coming after a kid and his parents would have upset and worried a lot of people, no matter how "misguided" his behavior may have been. You rabid lot seem ready enough for a lynching. Scary, scary stuff.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this kid didn't hurt anyone or present a significant risk to Apple's interests (which shouldn't be protected anyway, but apparently we no longer believe in "meritocracy" and any and every idea, notion, image, thought, gesture, etc. can be copyrighted by the multinationals and brought against children and their parents) and if you believe that apple is RIGHT for attack a KID and the kid is WRONG to the point of having his parents sued then your morality is suspect. Who endorses that sort of police state totalitarianism? You all are going to tell me you've never stolen anything, ever? Threaten the kid with a lawsuit and be on your way Apple; this (frequent) legal severity is making me think of backing a different horse altogether.
What a world.
I've never made $130,000 off of stolen goods I imported from China, no. There is something morally suspect here, but it's not those supporting the corporation (which isn't what they're doing anyway). If your kid (assuming you're old enough) came upon $130k, how would you handle the issue?
If this kid made $1000 off of this, not a big deal...but $130,000? It's not even as if the kid or his parents went to jail - BUT THEY COULD HAVE.
wait until they're grown
Really? Seems to me "thou shalt not steal" wasn't a new idea even at the time Moses presented it to the Israelites on the tablets. How about the rule, "an eye for an eye?" People used to lose their hands over stealing an apple. All he got was a spanking and a public display so that others don't do the same.
actually, that's exactly what's going on here. People are free to act, but they are not free from the consequences of their actions.
You're right; until people are 18 years old, we should laugh it off and chalk it up to youth. They can learn and be responsible for their actions after they become adults. I'm sure that would make it a much safer society for all of us.
Seriously? Of course not. And even if I had, I'm not sure how that justifies someone else in doing it. I hope you're not a parent, b/c if this is what you teach your kids, we're all in trouble.
You own the MacBook, therefore you have a right to sell it. When you bought it, one of the things you bought was the right to have that Apple logo on the computer. The kid didn't own the parts he sold. Nothing gave him the right to sell items with Apple logo on them, paying for stolen goods gives you no rights.
What a world is right!
Evidently, this generation has no respect for intellectual property. Why exactly shouldn't Apple protect its interests? What is this "meritrocacy" that you speak of? I believe in meritocracy but I was unaware that such a concept included piggybacking off of someone else's brand to promote a product.