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Sorry then. I should have said that "all of the Lenovo adapters that I've used and seen have been two prong".

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Ahh, ok.

The charger a dell laptop I had came with was two pronged. I replaced it and the new one was 3 pronged. Maybe it's a recent change.
 
It's not a sample because it's not randomly chosen, is all I'm saying. I draw no conclusion from them because I believe in math. The adapters my suck. I don't know. But I wouldn't base my decision on self selected sampling.

Many apple things suck. I got bit by the nvidia fiasco. I hate the app store review process. I'm no fanboy. But I never trust message boards and reviews because they both tend to be self selecting.

But there are positive reviews there of other Apple products (equally trivial ones like keyboards). That means its unlikely that everybody coming to give a review is coming to gripe. If it had been posts in a technical support forum you would have a case, but these are reviews and aren't by their nature self selective as you put it, or there would be no positive reviews.
 
But there are positive reviews there of other Apple products (equally trivial ones like keyboards). That means its unlikely that everybody coming to give a review is coming to gripe. If it had been posts in a technical support forum you would have a case, but these are reviews and aren't by their nature self selective as you put it, or there would be no positive reviews.

My poin is the ratio of bad to good reviews is not the ratio of bad to good adapters. Obviously ther will be outlier positives.
 
funny, both the knockoffs and apples own charger is crap. FFS its not even GROUNDED, do you realize what a crappy design that is? noise can be introduced into the chassis and into your video card, your audio card, have static build up.

just ridiculous....
It is grounded. :p

The grounding connection is an integral part of the circular metal tab that secures the three-prong power cord or duck head to the transformer.

I think it would be great if people looked at what they were criticizing before throwing out accusations. Esp. the Windows users who seem to have never used a MacBook. :cool:
 
Irony

Does anyone else think it ironic that this thread about apple suing the knock-off power adapter manufacturer is just below the thread about apple taking half of the pc industries profits?
Yet the Mac costs on average 3 times more.
i'm not a troll, I've purchased over 25 mac products since the 90's and one pc.
I think Apple could do a little less nickel and dime.
 
Does anyone else think it ironic that this thread about apple suing the knock-off power adapter manufacturer is just below the thread about apple taking half of the pc industries profits?
Yet the Mac costs on average 3 times more.
i'm not a troll, I've purchased over 25 mac products since the 90's and one pc.
I think Apple could do a little less nickel and dime.

So when a company makes an obscene amount of money because they offer a better, more desirable product that people are buying, they should then go easy on patent issues?
 
Does anyone else think it ironic that this thread about apple suing the knock-off power adapter manufacturer is just below the thread about apple taking half of the pc industries profits?
Yet the Mac costs on average 3 times more.
i'm not a troll, I've purchased over 25 mac products since the 90's and one pc.
I think Apple could do a little less nickel and dime.

When you start your own company feel free to give your IP rights away. Since you don't know that revenue (as discussed in the article) is not the same as profits, I don't think your company will last very long.
 
Does anyone else think it ironic that this thread about apple suing the knock-off power adapter manufacturer is just below the thread about apple taking half of the pc industries profits?
Yet the Mac costs on average 3 times more.
i'm not a troll, I've purchased over 25 mac products since the 90's and one pc.
I think Apple could do a little less nickel and dime.
So are you implying that Apple shouldn't defend their patents, or that Apple should charge less for its products?
 
I don't think many people used the word "thrive" to describe NeXT.

NeXT withdrew from the hardware business in 1993 and the company was renamed NeXT Software Inc; subsequently 300 of the 540 staff employees were laid off....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT#1993.E2.80.931996:_NeXT_Software

Fair enough.

OTOH, here is a link to the thinking of the day (via gruber) back when Amelio agreed to buy NeXT: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/1997/02/03/221517/index.htm

Interesting excerpts, FTA:
So Apple doesn't need more software. What Apple needs is a visionary who understands how to make really great software and who can provide the leadership to make that happen.

...and...

John Sculley has admitted repeatedly that his biggest mistake as CEO was his inability to control Apple's engineers. In fact, no Apple CEO has come close to doing that. This failure has nothing to do with the decisions that get all the press, such as whether to license the operating system or which microprocessor to use in the Mac. It results from not knowing how to run a business for the benefit of customers and shareholders.

...and...

It takes a long time to kill an $11-billion-a-year company. Apple's already down to around $8 billion a year. I give it another three years, until the millennium, to fall the rest of the way to the ground.

Of course the most amusing part is where Alsop pitches BeOS (and ean-Louis Gassee) over NeXT (and Jobs) as the viable source for the new Mac OS. :cool: Probably best for all involved if Alsop stays in publishing and out of the venture capital business. :p
 
Of course the most amusing part is where Alsop pitches BeOS (and ean-Louis Gassee) over NeXT (and Jobs) as the viable source for the new Mac OS. :cool: Probably best for all involved if Alsop stays in publishing and out of the venture capital business. :p

BeOS had some very interesting properties and features. For a consumer OS, it was superior to NeXT in many ways (and inferior in others). Sad to see that it's stagnated all these many years.
 
Do you really think there isn't?? That the metal grounding pin in the adapter is there just for kicks?


http://www.flickr.com/photos/74847775@N00/3928178121/

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In the small channel either side is metal which makes a connection with the earthing pin on the MagSafe power brick. This earths the MagSafe and MacBook Pro.

sorry if i dont have every revision of every mac product to date but this is why i posted my original comment. go to this apple store link, there is only 2 prongs and no ground

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA538LL/B?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&mco=MTA4NDE2NDY

MA538



also with the 85W i dont see a ground either

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA938LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&mco=MTA4NDE2MjE

also check the rating from Apple users that purchased the adapter, 2/5 stars! thats absurd for a Genuine product.
 
sorry if i dont have every revision of every mac product to date but this is why i posted my original comment. go to this apple store link, there is only 2 prongs and no ground

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA538LL/B?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&mco=MTA4NDE2NDY



also with the 85W i dont see a ground either

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA938LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&mco=MTA4NDE2MjE

also check the rating from Apple users that purchased the adapter, 2/5 stars! thats absurd for a Genuine product. you would only expect to see knockoffs melting but the original too?

As has already been pointed out, on ALL of these adapters, you have two choices - the two prong thing you see in the pictures, or the three-prong cable that replaces that little two prong thing. The box comes with both. People tend to use the two prong thing mostly when traveling, as it takes less space to carry than the three prong (which is attached to a long cable).

The three prong cable is grounded and connected to the disc on the brick.
 
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