Apple Finally Updates OS X Lion on Mac App Store to 10.7.1

[Mr. Retrofire]

does 10.7.1 include iTunes 10.4.x?

Mac OS X 10.7.1 (Build 11B26) from the MAS contains iTunes v10.4.0 (says the Info.plist). Apple updated also the "BaseSystem.dmg" and the "/System/" folder on the InstallESD.dmg to Build 11B26.

I got the following checksums for my InstallESD.dmg:
SHA-1: 7680f93a44f72dfdb0e3c15e683a8fc506758e42
MD5: 2530e25b669104dad9476653be461297

Via...

openssl sha1 /Applications/Install\ Mac\ OS\ X\ Lion.app/Contents/SharedSupport/InstallESD.dmg
or
openssl md5 /Applications/Install\ Mac\ OS\ X\ Lion.app/Contents/SharedSupport/InstallESD.dmg

...in a Terminal window.

Please publish your checksums, if possible! Thank you!

Btw, yes it is Mac OS X (not OS X), because Apple called the Lion installer "Install Mac OS X Lion.app".

Edit: Thank you "blackburn" for the checksums!

 

[blackburn]

They haven't changed InstallableMachines.plist so you can't install on the new machines without hacking up the plist. So far the sums check up.

 

[acnewyork]

So downloaded the 3.75GB upgrade(?) from the MAS even though I was already on 10.7.1 Then made a copy of the installer on my backup drive. Then installed. After thirty minutes of installing 10.7.1 system reboots and I'm on 10.7.1, installer is gone from the applications folder BUT MAS STILL SHOW I HAVE AN UPDATE AVAILABLE? Really Apple? I have an update available after updating to 10.7.1 TWICE... BOTH WAYS? WTW...?

 

[Graig]

Redownloading Lion 10.7.1 from App Store

I updated Lion the other day from Software Update. If I redownload the updated version 10.7.1 from the App Store now to save the Updated installer to disc how do I remove the App Store download from my computer? When I installed 10.7 it was removed when the installation completed.

 

[smitha96]

"Finally"

- df

 

[gneutra]

No can do...

Tried re-downloading 10.7.1 on my new MacBook AIR and I get a message saying "We could not complete your purchase This version on Mac OS X 10.7.1 cannot be installed on this computer."

Do you suppose this has anything to do with the fact that the AIR had a special 10.7.1 updater and the version in the App Store is the generic one?

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

Tried re-downloading 10.7.1 on my new MacBook AIR and I get a message saying "We could not complete your purchase This version on Mac OS X 10.7.1 cannot be installed on this computer."

Do you suppose this has anything to do with the fact that the AIR had a special 10.7.1 updater and the version in the App Store is the generic one?

The build number of 10.7.1 on the Air is probably higher. 10.7.1 in the MAS has 11B26 as the build number. The MAS checks probably the build number of Mac OS X and the model identifier (MacBookAir4,1 or MacBookAir4,2) and rejects hardware which requires a special kernel or special drivers.

 

[Eric S.]

Tried re-downloading 10.7.1 on my new MacBook AIR and I get a message saying "We could not complete your purchase This version on Mac OS X 10.7.1 cannot be installed on this computer."

Do you suppose this has anything to do with the fact that the AIR had a special 10.7.1 updater and the version in the App Store is the generic one?

Yes.

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

I updated Lion the other day from Software Update. If I redownload the updated version 10.7.1 from the App Store now to save the Updated installer to disc how do I remove the App Store download from my computer? When I installed 10.7 it was removed when the installation completed.

If you want to keep the installer (invisible to the MAS):
Download Lion, and quit the installer like any other application. Create a new sparse disk image (> 4 GB space) with Disk Utility, copy "Install Mac OS X Lion.app" from the "Applications" folder on this disk image and "eject" the disk image. Delete the "original" from the "Applications" folder.

Otherwise just delete "Install Mac OS X Lion.app" from the "Applications" folder.

 

[ksgant]

Heaping some more on the pile...

Finally, our long national nightmare has finally ended.

 

[FoxyKaye]

Finally, our long national nightmare has finally ended.

I was really motivated to update to Snow Leopard, despite the fact that it dropped support for AppleTalk (still used by those decades-old laser printers built like a tank) and Palm via iSync (back then, Palm was almost still sort of kind of viable).

For some reason I'm less motivated to update to Lion - I know there's Cool New Features and as an iteration of OS X it's much more secure than Snow Leopard. But everything on my MacBook Pro is just so stable and happy right now, I'm reticent to install an OS update and face the wrath of a pre-10.x.3 product.

Still I'm glad to see the App Store appears that it will keep pace with the updates - I always hated doing more downloading after an OS install.

 

[ChristopherT]

10.7.1 from App Store still can not boot newest MacBook Airs (e.g. from USB drive)

Hi,

I did the App Store update and then used this latest build to update my USB thumb drive-based Lion install image (from InstallESD.dmg).

Guess what? The thumb drive will boot (and can be used to diagnose / install on, etc.) my 2-year-old MacBook Pro, but it still will not boot my brand new MacBook Air.

So, somehow even though we are now at 10.7.1, Apple is still shipping an InstallESD.dmg that is not a universal installer for the latest shipping hardware that has been out for nearly a month. This is pretty unbelievable, but there you have it. It would be understandable (and consistent with past build strategy since 2001) if Apple needed a month or so to release a version of the GM build with the latest hardware drivers for new hardware, but now they've had that chance and must have chosen to intentionally omit them from the App Store build, which means that they are maintaining 2 versions of the GM -- one that has everything you need ($70 USB key retail version), and one that does not (App store version). This explains why Apple waited to release the MB Airs and Lion GM in tandem -- they wanted to be able to say that the App Store version is only for upgrades to pre-mid-2011 Macs; in fact this strategy literally prevented them from being able to release the new Airs without Lion.

It's also extremely annoying, to say the least.

Will now march over and order the $70 USB install key from Apple. Which, by the way, the Apple Palo Alto retail store manager today told me can only be purchased online and will never be carried in retail stores. (YMMV, but that is what he said.)

-c

P.S. Please don't ask why I need a Lion installer for my MB Air.... I need this because I'm particular -- I'm not going to put my precious files on any computer whose OS I did not install from scratch -- else how can I be sure I can replicate the procedure if I have to replace the drive in the future? Must have that bungee cord firmly attached before I jump... The Recovery partition doesn't really help if you have to replace the physical disk, which I understand has a limited lifetime even though it's Flash-based. So if I have to choose between maybe being able to recover, and definitely being able to recover, I’ll choose “definitely.”

 

[beg_ne]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Mobile/9A5302b Safari/7534.48.3)

For what it's worth you can also install Lion via the recovery partition in the MBA's firmware.

You still have to download the files from that point. But you aren't completely stranded if you blank out the SSD somehow.

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/20/internet-recovery-lets-new-macs-install-os-x-from-blank-hard-drive/

 

[MacSlut]

And what problem would be solved by doing this?

I'm with the OP. Currently, if I'm traveling and want to make sure everything is up to date when I've have a chance at a place with good connectivity, I have to launch the App Store, run Software Update, and launch iTunes to check if everything is up to date. I also have to then run apps I didn't get from the App Store to check them too.

There's nothing Apple can (or rather should) do about the last item, but it would be nice to have an app from Apple that checked the other 3 things for updates.

As it stands now, Software Update checks for some things, and does so automatically, but the App Store won't automatically check for updates unless you launch it. Same with iTunes and iOS apps.

While we may think system software updates, are the only critical updates, issues could occur in other apps needing updating. What harm would there be in having Software Update check for *all* software available through Apple?

 

[mcnaugha]

So, somehow even though we are now at 10.7.1, Apple is still shipping an InstallESD.dmg that is not a universal installer for the latest shipping hardware that has been out for nearly a month. This is pretty unbelievable, but there you have it. It would be understandable (and consistent with past build strategy since 2001) if Apple needed a month or so to release a version of the GM build with the latest hardware drivers for new hardware, but now they've had that chance and must have chosen to intentionally omit them from the App Store build, which means that they are maintaining 2 versions of the GM -- one that has everything you need ($70 USB key retail version), and one that does not (App store version). This explains why Apple waited to release the MB Airs and Lion GM in tandem -- they wanted to be able to say that the App Store version is only for upgrades to pre-mid-2011 Macs; in fact this strategy literally prevented them from being able to release the new Airs without Lion.

Who told you the USB Thumb Drive would support the MacBook Air (Mid 2011)? It won't. It's exactly the same build as the MAS. It's for pre-Lion hardware only. The target customer is upgraders.

There are different build trains within Apple that are strictly for the new hardware at the moment. This happens all the time and you have to get used to it. Generally these are driven by the secretive culture, ala Steve Jobs, to attempt to hide future hardware release support before product announcement. Another cause for it can be if engineering experiences last minute difficulties which clash with the OS X team's schedule requiring a separation of the build trains. The MAS version is not intended for post-Lion-release hardware. So they are not obligated to make it work on that model. Your MacBook Air (Mid 2011) is not a target customer.

I don't have a MacBook Air (Mid 2011) to hand at the moment to verify, but you may be able to go through the process of getting the Internet recovery to download the install but somehow manage to copy it before it's automatically deleted. You could find that it does contain a full build of 10.7.1 specific to the MacBook Air (Mid 2011). This may require command line skills or forcing your MacBook Air to shutdown before it proceeds with install and then somehow extracting the installer maybe via Thunderbolt target mode. Messy I know.

It's just early days just now. Apple will consolidate the trains in a future release, most likely when iCloud is ready for public consumption. It just takes time. There is no point in throwing the toys out of the pram at this stage. If Apple engineering agreed it was important they would make it easier for you to gain access to such a thing. The changes are so relatively minor that for the moment they do not. The iCloud integrated build will be much more relevant as that's a significant design change to the system.

 

[dirkt]

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3206618?start=45&tstart=0

 

[DarwinOSX]

Non-story. A whole week to have to also download a small upgrade instead of getting it all at once. How terrible.

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Call Applecare and tell them you need a USB installer for your 2011 MBA. Mine shipped right away and free. My rationale is I travel extensively and cannot rely on high speed internet everywhere I go.

Hi,

I did the App Store update and then used this latest build to update my USB thumb drive-based Lion install image (from InstallESD.dmg).

Guess what? The thumb drive will boot (and can be used to diagnose / install on, etc.) my 2-year-old MacBook Pro, but it still will not boot my brand new MacBook Air.

So, somehow even though we are now at 10.7.1, Apple is still shipping an InstallESD.dmg that is not a universal installer for the latest shipping hardware that has been out for nearly a month. This is pretty unbelievable, but there you have it. It would be understandable (and consistent with past build strategy since 2001) if Apple needed a month or so to release a version of the GM build with the latest hardware drivers for new hardware, but now they've had that chance and must have chosen to intentionally omit them from the App Store build, which means that they are maintaining 2 versions of the GM -- one that has everything you need ($70 USB key retail version), and one that does not (App store version). This explains why Apple waited to release the MB Airs and Lion GM in tandem -- they wanted to be able to say that the App Store version is only for upgrades to pre-mid-2011 Macs; in fact this strategy literally prevented them from being able to release the new Airs without Lion.

It's also extremely annoying, to say the least.

Will now march over and order the $70 USB install key from Apple. Which, by the way, the Apple Palo Alto retail store manager today told me can only be purchased online and will never be carried in retail stores. (YMMV, but that is what he said.)

-c

P.S. Please don't ask why I need a Lion installer for my MB Air.... I need this because I'm particular -- I'm not going to put my precious files on any computer whose OS I did not install from scratch -- else how can I be sure I can replicate the procedure if I have to replace the drive in the future? Must have that bungee cord firmly attached before I jump... The Recovery partition doesn't really help if you have to replace the physical disk, which I understand has a limited lifetime even though it's Flash-based. So if I have to choose between maybe being able to recover, and definitely being able to recover, I’ll choose “definitely.”

 

[charlituna]

I'd like to see OS X drop Software Update entirely in favour of App Store. It would make things a little messy for those with boxed versions of iLife, iWork, etc, but there's no reason to have two different paths for things like OS X or iTunes.

They likely will at some point. But they need the total buy in first. Thus we will see the next iLife, iWork, Logic join the rest as MAS only. And with the next couple of OS updates users will be in that realm as older machines drop off. The old school will stick around for the old stuff but everything else will be MAS.

One trick will be side files. By that I mean things like the pro app content that popped up in software update after I downloaded Final Cut X. They need to figure out how to serve that up via MAS without creating crazy fat downloads

 

[charlituna]

That doesn't really mesh well with security updates, printer updates, digital media updates (camera support), or older versions of the software.

Some of those items are the very 3rd party stuff that Apple is moving away from serving up, so that users have to go to the source. Starting with Flash and Java.

It would mesh well if Apple included support for Delta updates via the App Store rather than needing to re-download everything whenever someone wants to move from version 1.0.1 to 1.0.2, especially when there are 8GB+ Apps.

At some point it could happen. Once the kinks are worked out

I previously updated via Software update but my MAS showed 1 update available so I decided to click and see what would happen. It is now downloading a 3.75GB file!! So software updates sends a delta 17mb file and the MAS gives you the entire updated OSX!!! Strange... very strange.

Same mechanism as other apps Mac and iOs.

In this case I didn't mind so much cause I made my own thumb drive for repairs and now I have a new install file to put on it

 

[Daffodil]

I was really motivated to update to Snow Leopard, despite the fact that it dropped support for AppleTalk (still used by those decades-old laser printers built like a tank) and Palm via iSync (back then, Palm was almost still sort of kind of viable).

For some reason I'm less motivated to update to Lion - I know there's Cool New Features and as an iteration of OS X it's much more secure than Snow Leopard. But everything on my MacBook Pro is just so stable and happy right now, I'm reticent to install an OS update and face the wrath of a pre-10.x.3 product.

Still I'm glad to see the App Store appears that it will keep pace with the updates - I always hated doing more downloading after an OS install.

Yeah, I feel similarly... I've also put off updating to Lion at least for a while until more of the little things are fixed and I feel confident that I can get good support. Part of it is definitely laziness on my part, but a little voice in the back of my mind keeps saying if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

 

[benthewraith]

The saturation of a feature. One of the reasons I'm disliking Lion.

If I recall, the App Store doesn't have the level access to make system-wide changes for security reasons.

 

[ChristopherT]

Who told you the USB Thumb Drive would support the MacBook Air (Mid 2011)? It won't. It's exactly the same build as the MAS. It's for pre-Lion hardware only. The target customer is upgraders.]

I think you are probably right, and it's what I would have guessed, but before writing what I wrote, I did hear from multiple sources that it would boot the latest MacBook airs. This includes the helpdesk at my company, who called Apple Support and was told by them that the purchased USB key *would* work for this purpose. Other sources for this info were web-based discussions.

 

[pawtracks]

does 10.7.1 include iTunes 10.4.x?

Did a clean install today with 10.7.1 and iTunes 10.4.1 was an available update

 

[hayesk]

The saturation of a feature. One of the reasons I'm disliking Lion.

Software update is a "saturation" of a feature? Perhaps you'd be more comfortable with MS-DOS.

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So, somehow even though we are now at 10.7.1, Apple is still shipping an InstallESD.dmg that is not a universal installer for the latest shipping hardware that has been out for nearly a month. This is pretty unbelievable, but there you have it.

It's unbelievable that may be Apple has 10.7.1 finished when they discovered and fixed a MBAir bug? Just wait until 10.7.2 for Pete's sake.

P.S. Please don't ask why I need a Lion installer for my MB Air.... I need this because I'm particular -- I'm not going to put my precious files on any computer whose OS I did not install from scratch

Be sure to fix those permissions, rebuild your desktop, and zap your PRAM too.

 

[MacFever]

I've already installed 10.7 and the update 10.7.1 but I want to have a bootable DVD with 10.7.1 like others here.

So I tried re-downloading from the App-Store purchases section by holding down "option" key and it started to download 3.75 GB but when it finished it said it couldn't install as 10.7.1 was already installed and now i can't find the downloaded file anywhere....

bummer....Is there anyway to save this file to make a bootable USB or DVD with the full 10.7.1 ?