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Originally posted by tduality
Maccentral says '50% of the customers...'

That would count also iPod buyers. Hence the number of new mac users might be lower.

The exact quote is:

"Based on our most recent wave of customer research, about 50% of customers buying Mac systems at our stores did not currently own a Mac."

so does NOT include iPod sales.
 
"Who's Switching? (not many)" - Mercury News

(Headline, business section, San Jose Mercury News 17 July 2003)

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/6322053.htm

Few customers switching from Windows

A YEAR AFTER ADS BEGAN AIRING, APPLE HASN'T GAINED MARKET SHARE

By Jon Fortt
Mercury News


It has been a year, and the masses aren't switching to Macs.

Last summer, Apple Computer began airing the TV commercials that were supposed to chip away at Microsoft's empire and sell more of its underdog Mac computers. There was the girl who switched to a Mac after her Windows computer ate her homework, the daughter who used her Apple laptop to rescue digital photos on Christmas.

With a year's worth of sales numbers under their belts, three major market research firms show roughly the same thing -- Cupertino-based Apple is holding its ground, but the only PC company attracting a lot of switchers is Dell Computer.



There's a table (not in the online version) that quotes Gartner figures of Apple at 2.1% worldwide marketshare (Q1'03) and 3.9% US consumer marketshare (Q3'03).
 
Re: 50% of Mac users...

Originally posted by merges
. . .In the last (unspecified), 50% of folks who purchased a Mac at an *Apple retail store* did not already own a Mac.

So, numbers might be a bit hard to come by. I'm also curious how many of these purchasers have at one time owned a Mac.

I "switched" to a 17" 1GHz iMac several months ago. This was purchased at an Apple store and I never recall anyone asking me if I already owned a Mac. So how do they get these numbers? I owned the very first Macintosh in 1984 for a short time but I would consider myself a switcher since I've been using a PC since the late 80's.

The iMac was actually purchased for my wife who had been using a nearly obsolete Wintel 233 MHz box. I'm still using a Wintel 450 MHz noname box I pieced together in 1999 and waiting patiently for the ideal PowerBook to come along. Meanwhile, I use my wife's iMac whenever she isn't. I love it! :D
 
Re: Re: iTMS

Originally posted by morgan-e
although i can't bring up exact figures, if you sign up at the store (not necessarily purchasing anything) you can, as i've done, chose to recieve a weekly email as to what's been added. it's entirely fluid, and i don't see that "people have gotten what they want, and won't come back." although it's specifically the different, it's still fundamentally a music store so people will keep coming back when they want music! being at break even when its library still hasn't been completed is an awesome sign. if you've used it, you'd know that the immediacy factor is enough reason (well, probably the only reason) to come back.

I agree with you.

To say that people will no longer buy albums because they've bought all the ones they want is ignoring new music or tastes. That's like saying that once I've bought 10 CD's of music at the local store, I've lost interest and will no longer find new artists or new songs. In other words, the previous poster (to which you are responding) is ignoring this.

Of course my theory is predicated on the iTMS adding more music on a regular basis and expanding their selection... but I also believe this is a given.
 
Re: Re: Er...

Originally posted by rjwill246
Nope. You got it right.We should be shouting from the rooftops. People often miss the point, even when it's bloody obvious. Apple is doing extraordinarily well given, the change to OS X, the slump in G4 sales, the introduction of iPods, iTunes Music Store, and all the i**** things. On the iTunes Music Store: the user base is small and yet it has done superbly. When our Windoze brothers can partake of this 'communion' it will go through the roof. The fact that Apple is taking so long on its release means that it will work smoothly and stun our separated Windoze brethren, who might then be tempted to convert!

Giddyup. My shares bought at 16.82 last June are starting to pay off... and they will continue to do so until at least next march IMHO.
 
Re: "Who's Switching? (not many)" - Mercury News

There's a table (not in the online version) that quotes Gartner figures of Apple at 2.1% worldwide marketshare (Q1'03) and 3.9% US consumer marketshare (Q3'03). [/B]

Yes, of new sales, not ownership or machines in use today.
 
Re: Re: Re: iTMS

Originally posted by Frobozz
To say that people will no longer buy albums because they've bought all the ones they want is ignoring new music or tastes. That's like saying that once I've bought 10 CD's of music at the local store, I've lost interest and will no longer find new artists or new songs.

Also, the option to purchase singles leads to new consumer buying habits. Since I have stopped buying albums I now sample songs from all different artists that I have previously never been exposed to. I can buy 1 or 2 songs at a time and after I've grown used to those songs, expand my repertoire the following week. Sampling music on the iTMS has become a very enjoyable activity for me, at very little expense. I tend to buy 3 or so new songs a week. So instead of being exposed to one new artist per month I get exposure to up to 10-15!

BTW, this is another thing that Apple should be pushing: spending your time listening to new music, not just downloading the songs or artists you already know. The thrill of discovering new music and new artists is universal amongst music lovers, and never has the opportunity been better than at the iTMS.
 
Re: Re: Re: 50% of Mac users...

Originally posted by Waluigi
What about switchers like me, who ordered my Apple in the Apple store, but instead of going through their system, I had to buy it online (in the store though with the sales man walking me through every step) in order to get my educational discount. Would I count as a in store or online customer?


--Waluigi

Wha wha what?

Completely offtopic, I know...

You mean I can't go into an apple store and use my educational discount to buy my iBook on saturday? I have to order it? Huh? Does that mean I wouldn't be able to take it home that day? Please, someone let me know.
Heck, I'll probably just order it online if that is the case, I just wanted to get it a the shiny new apple store downtown chicago...
 
Re: eMac rocks

Originally posted by foofan
At first it does sound dissappointing that iMac sales are sluggish, especially since they introduced it to the public in grand fashion compared to the eMac, but I really feel that the eMac is what they should have promoted more to the PC users. I think Apple was too much in love with that flat-panel design.

Personally, I 'm already on my 2nd eMac and I think they are awesome! I recently upgraded to the 1ghz model. It has everything the iMac has except a flat panel. Why would I want to spend hundreds of dollars more just to be able to swing the screen on a metal arm?

I think th iMac got trapped between the eMac and powermac, but now that the G5 exists they can bump up the speed of the g4 iMac as much as they want and it will never conflict with a g5. Let's hope they come out with something like a 1.6ghz G4 iMac for people who want a little more than the eMac, but don't want to invest in a G5.
I couldn't agree more. It seems like one of the only things different right now on the iMac is the flat panel display. I think the eMac is a great value. I hope they speed up the iMacs quickly, like to a 1.25 GHz G4.
 
Re: Re: "Who's Switching? (not many)" - Mercury News

Originally posted by Frobozz
Yes, of new sales, not ownership or machines in use today.
Does anyone know the percent of Macs currently in use?
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: 50% of Mac users...

Originally posted by Groovsonic
Wha wha what?

Completely offtopic, I know...

You mean I can't go into an apple store and use my educational discount to buy my iBook on saturday? I have to order it? Huh? Does that mean I wouldn't be able to take it home that day? Please, someone let me know.
Heck, I'll probably just order it online if that is the case, I just wanted to get it a the shiny new apple store downtown chicago...

Sorry if it was offtopic. Since the G5 was not in stock at the store, they wouldn't honor the educational discount, until they had it in stock. They should have your iBook in stock, and you should be able to get your discount through the store.

--Waluigi
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 50% of Mac users...

Originally posted by Waluigi
Sorry if it was offtopic. Since the G5 was not in stock at the store, they wouldn't honor the educational discount, until they had it in stock. They should have your iBook in stock, and you should be able to get your discount through the store.

--Waluigi

Thank you. I was freaking out.

Hehe
 
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