Oh, I agree, too. It was mentioned that the EU doesn’t define a difference between digital and physical purchases, and they absolutely do. Just another thing I learned while googling to verify something that’s been posted here
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They aren't subsidising the Mac app platform. Remember, Macs successfully existed before any other Apple products existed, and there has never been a 30% Apple Tax on Mac software. The traditional business model is that a computer hardware company sells the hardware, and provides the dev tools so that devs can produce the apps that make the hardware actually useful. It's a two way street. A computer with no software is just as useless as software with no computer. Apple made the profits from selling the hardware, software companies made the profits from selling the software, without Apple reaming them for a 30% cut of their revenue.
There is no way in hell that Macs are making a loss. The reason the iPhone app store has a 30% Apple Tax is because Apple wrote iOS to be super locked down, allowing such a store lock-in to be possible. One of the things that make macOS so popular amongst its user base is that it is not locked down. It's underlying UNIX base is accessible to the users, it has a built in *nix terminal, and you can download and use *nix software. This makes it highly popular with software devs, with more self employed software devs using macOS than Windows, which is quite extraordinary. I'm sure Apple would looooove to lock down macOS and implement the same app store lock-in, so that they can ream devs/users with the 30% Apple Tax, but they would instantly lose a huge slab of it's user base straight to Windows or Linux if they did.
As for entitlement and your "good luck". In case you've been hiding under a rock, there has been an exponential growth in the volume of anti-trust cases all around the world working at undoing Apple's app store monopoly (and no, I don't care if you think it's a monopoly or not, the fact is, the anti-trust cases think it is, and the courts and governments will decide). If you can't see the writing on the wall, then "good luck" to you. After the 30% Apple Tax falls, the other stores reaming 30% will also fall.
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According to the EU, you lose your right to withdrawal once you download the content even if you don’t play it. Beyond that, there are methods to get your money back, sure. BUT, as the EU treats physical sales differently from digital sales, you can’t use the same 14 day withdrawal provided by the EU for physical purchases on digital purchases.
There is an EU defined difference between digital and physical purchases.
They’ll never get it 🤷🏻♂️
Under EU rules, a trader must repair, replace, reduce the price or give you a refund if goods you bought turn out to be faulty or do not look or work as advertised.
If you bought a product or a service online or outside of a shop (by telephone, mail order, from a door-to-door salesperson), you also have the right to cancel and return your order within 14 days, for any reason and without a justification.
There is a law that gives you the right to refund a game if it faulty or doesn’t perform as advertised. This covers games as well.
The only difference with the other thing is a universal right to return online or distance purchases in 14 days as long as you don’t use them.
If you actually read the text of what you linked you would se this 14 day withdrawal is for any goods such as digital or physical you order online or by phone etc as you still have legally mandated 2 year guarantee to cover a faulty product.
faulty yes. but that should be the limit, if you aren't happy with it for personal reasons, it shouldn't be refundable.
Correct. As it should be. However, if a citizen of the EU accepts delivery of a physical copy of GTA, and doesn’t play it because they changed their mind and figured they’d wait for GTA VI, within 14 days, withdrawal applies. If citizen of the EU downloads a digital copy of GTA and doesn’t play it because they changed their mind and figured they’ll wait for GTA VI, withdrawal doesn’t apply.
The EU draws a distinction between digital and physical purchases.
This money flows to the government where it vanishes into thin air.
But the question that should be asked is why the ACM (and the press) have so much focus on this rather unimportant case. There's more to gain if they would take on the real cases, like the energy cartel. O... wait... we do have corruption big time in the western world.
Still no. If you purchase GTA online you can cancel it as long as you don’t transfer it to your computer/console essentially breaking the seal. If you order GTA from GameStop you can return it as long as you don’t break the seal. Breaking the seal counts as using the goods/installing it.
- sealed audio, video or computer software, such as DVDs, which you have unsealed upon receipt
- online digital content, if you have already started downloading or streaming it and you agreed that you would lose your right of withdrawal by starting the performance
I just dont like pro consumer laws. if someone buys something they shouldn't be able to return it if its a luxury, you chose to buy it, dont take it back. shouldn't even have the choice.
But why not?
If you purchase an expensive goods and it was false advertisement?
Purchases an Xbox and it have buggy software.
Purchase a game with ****** quality not as advertised
Still yes.
Transferring it to your computer/console is “downloading” it, which is specifically covered in what I typed. “Breaking the seal” for physical objects happens at some point after having taken delivery. Breaking the seal for digital purchases happens as a result of taking delivery “if you have already started downloading”.This is even called out as an “exception” to the rule that covers physical purchases... in the same area that covers perishable items, tickets, etc. There is a clear distinction, in the EU, between physical purchases and digital purchases. The EU says it’s an exception, not me.
You said there’s no distinction between physical and digital purchases. There is one, specifically called out. What happens in a shop is likely up to that store and that country, but that digital purchases are distinctly different from physical purchases span the entire EU.
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Well this will be interesting then considering a the Supreme Court have judged software to be equal to good’s irrespective of medium.Still yes.
This is even called out as an “exception” to the rule that covers physical purchases... in the same area that covers perishable items, tickets, etc. There is a clear distinction, in the EU, between physical purchases and digital purchases. The EU says it’s an exception, not me.
You said there’s no distinction between physical and digital purchases. There is one, specifically called out. What happens in a shop is likely up to that store and that country, but that digital purchases are distinctly different from physical purchases span the entire EU.
Software is good, according to the EU Court of Justice
A recent ruling on software reseller contracts threatens to shake-up the technology sector. Louise Norbury-Robinson explains.
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Apple just going for the fines I guess.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/...-given-fourth-dutch-fine-in-app-store-dispute
https://money.usnews.com/investing/...-given-fourth-dutch-fine-in-app-store-dispute
