I could go for an ultra thin MBP, I just hope they don't f around with the aesthetics too much and keep it square. The MBP is a design classic, it should stay that way.
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Apple Finishing Up Work on an Ultra-Thin 15" Notebook
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This will be a new MVP, no optical drie, no fw 800, no fw400, thunderbolt... Nice!
This will be a new MVP, no optical drie, no fw 800, no fw400, thunderbolt... Nice!
I've got many discs burned on a 2x CD Writer in 1997 using Kodak media that are all still perfectly readable today. El-Cheapo unbranded DVDs of today might not last, but choose decent quality media and it's perfectly feasible. The aforementioned CD-Rs are already at 15 years.
Back on topic - Apple can bring out a 15" MBA, but I'll be very mad if they drop the optical drive and remove Ethernet/FW800 etc from the MBP range to make them thinner. Tempted to stock up on a current 15" MBP while I still can...
Finally! This will be my 2008 MBP replacement, I always dreamed of this news. Love the thin Air design, but always wished it came in a 15 inch. I like to do cafe writing and my '08 MBP is like lugging around a brick!(although I kno it could be a lot worse) Very excited for this one to hit.
I'm new to this forum and just felt like voicing my two cents. I like the thinness and weight of the MBA but still feel like Apple needs a laptop with a six to seven hundred dollar price tag. So maybe a MBA could eventually be that computer--or perhaps some other model.
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Well you are the minority. Polls show that the optical drive is used so little it no longer a gamble for apple to drop it for the greater good and those that need it can occasional use an external. Expect the MacBook pro to lose the optical and re iMac next full redesign to lose it too.
Dr Kevorkian94 said:
Well you are the minority. Polls show that the optical drive is used so little it no longer a gamble for apple to drop it for the greater good and those that need it can occasional use an external. Expect the MacBook pro to lose the optical and re iMac next full redesign to lose it too.
wether you like it or not, apple is going consumer!!
this is the future of apple, you all know it, and you also know apple never cared about leaving a small part of the market for the bigger one.
so, if you are one of the few people (in apple's eyes) that want a ODD, FW, RJ45, maybe also the express card, well, you'll be disappointed.
but that's not a concern for apple, they will still make LOTS of money, and that's frankly the only thing companies want.
but I just need to beg for a little thing: PLEASE DON'T SOLDER THE RAM!!!
this is the future of apple, you all know it, and you also know apple never cared about leaving a small part of the market for the bigger one.
so, if you are one of the few people (in apple's eyes) that want a ODD, FW, RJ45, maybe also the express card, well, you'll be disappointed.
but that's not a concern for apple, they will still make LOTS of money, and that's frankly the only thing companies want.
but I just need to beg for a little thing: PLEASE DON'T SOLDER THE RAM!!!
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Cripple? Since when have Apple ever 'crippled' anything?
Cripple? Since when have Apple ever 'crippled' anything?
I was going to wait for Christmas to buy a new 11 or 13 air but now maybe Ill but this 15 thin notebook.
Main question is: will it have the high resolution of the airs display?
I think ti wont, because then the air line loses appeal.
The current pro owners must be pissed now. Just like the some ipad 2 owners are with the ipad 2 HD rumors... Both due this fall? Hopefully. I must go and start earning some big cash...
Main question is: will it have the high resolution of the airs display?
I think ti wont, because then the air line loses appeal.
The current pro owners must be pissed now. Just like the some ipad 2 owners are with the ipad 2 HD rumors... Both due this fall? Hopefully. I must go and start earning some big cash...
Seems logical...
In one or two more generations, when SSDs are cheep enough so that 256GB can be standard in the 13 inch $1200 base model, I see apple dropping the "Air" name and simply having 11/13 inch MacBooks, 15/17s would retain "Pro" status. Right now there is a lot of user base crossover between the 13 MBA and 13 MBP, most people that currently have 13 inch MBP would probably be better suited with a 13 MBA. If you consider the optical drive dead (and apple does) , then the only thing keeping the 13 inch Air from completely replacing the 13 Pro is cost and HDD storage space. Once the storage/price problems are solved by cheaper larger SSDs, there would be no reason to have a 13 inch "Fat" macbook and 13 inch "Air." Lets be honest, for most people there is very little advantage of having the slight CPU speed bump that having more cooling in the larger 13 inch would allow, the real limiting factor is of these notebooks is the GPU, and that currently is the same in the 13 Pro/Air anyway.
Late 2012 or Early 2013 line:
11 inch MacBook: Base 4GB Ram, Dual Core 2.0 Ghz Ivy Bridge, 128GB SDD (optional 256GB), Integrated graphics
13 inch MacBook: Base 4GB Ram (optional 8GB), Dual Core 2.2 Ghz Ivy Bridge , 256GB SDD (optional 512GB), Integrated Graphics.
15 inch MacBook Pro: Base 4GB Ram (optional 8GB), Quad Core 2.0 Ghz Ivy Bridge, 256GB SDD (optional 512GB/1TB), Dedicated Graphics.
17 inch MacBook Pro: Base 4GB Ram (optional 8GB), Quad Core 2.2 Ghz Ivy Bridge, 256GB SDD (optional 512GB/1TB), Dedicated Graphics.
In one or two more generations, when SSDs are cheep enough so that 256GB can be standard in the 13 inch $1200 base model, I see apple dropping the "Air" name and simply having 11/13 inch MacBooks, 15/17s would retain "Pro" status. Right now there is a lot of user base crossover between the 13 MBA and 13 MBP, most people that currently have 13 inch MBP would probably be better suited with a 13 MBA. If you consider the optical drive dead (and apple does) , then the only thing keeping the 13 inch Air from completely replacing the 13 Pro is cost and HDD storage space. Once the storage/price problems are solved by cheaper larger SSDs, there would be no reason to have a 13 inch "Fat" macbook and 13 inch "Air." Lets be honest, for most people there is very little advantage of having the slight CPU speed bump that having more cooling in the larger 13 inch would allow, the real limiting factor is of these notebooks is the GPU, and that currently is the same in the 13 Pro/Air anyway.
Late 2012 or Early 2013 line:
11 inch MacBook: Base 4GB Ram, Dual Core 2.0 Ghz Ivy Bridge, 128GB SDD (optional 256GB), Integrated graphics
13 inch MacBook: Base 4GB Ram (optional 8GB), Dual Core 2.2 Ghz Ivy Bridge , 256GB SDD (optional 512GB), Integrated Graphics.
15 inch MacBook Pro: Base 4GB Ram (optional 8GB), Quad Core 2.0 Ghz Ivy Bridge, 256GB SDD (optional 512GB/1TB), Dedicated Graphics.
17 inch MacBook Pro: Base 4GB Ram (optional 8GB), Quad Core 2.2 Ghz Ivy Bridge, 256GB SDD (optional 512GB/1TB), Dedicated Graphics.
Mmmm, no. SSD will still be more expensive in 2015, and will still have significantly lower capacity. And if we depleted uranium HDDs by 2015.... the performance crown might return to HDDs... along with capacities soaring well over 100TB. Real professionals need more than 256 GB of space. Hell, movie lovers need more than that... more than 512 GB.
Your post is probably the most logical one out of all the 13 pages I've seen. Space is saved by not having user-removeable parts (like the iPhone's battery). People will whine, but they will get over it or buy something else.
Just because the MacBook Pro has the word "pro" in the name does not mean it's for professionals. Apple's first job is to make money, and the consumer market is MUCH larger than the professional market could ever hope to be.
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They will not compromise on anything in terms of processor, ram etc. They will drop technologies which are now end of line. They will drop FireWire completely and remove the optical drive.
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They will not compromise on anything in terms of processor, ram etc. They will drop technologies which are now end of line. They will drop FireWire completely and remove the optical drive.
SSDs will be more expensive, but because you're buying a computer that costs at least $1000, it will have them by default. Apple doesn't make $500 laptops for a reason, you know.
And how do we know that Apple is coming out with more laptops this year? Their technical specifications refer to the current laptops as "Early 2011", not "Mid 2011". It's a rather important sign.
I would totally go for something like that. I really don't like the case design of the current MacBook Pros so I've been slogging along with a Santa Rosa era laptop. Even though I like the design of the 'Air' models I haven't bought one because there's just not enough screen real estate. Yeah, the resolution is the same, but it just seems so 'small' (I must be getting old.) I'd be super happy if something came along that split the difference, better case design and bigger screen.
Possibility
15" MBP without optical and SSD as standard
or
15" air... yea 15" air.
Either one would be nice. Since the Air isn't a "netbook" and has become Apple's consumer line, this would be nice for those who want a larger screen for entertainment means.
11", 13", 15" Air's
13", 15", 17" MBP
15" MBP without optical and SSD as standard
or
15" air... yea 15" air.
Either one would be nice. Since the Air isn't a "netbook" and has become Apple's consumer line, this would be nice for those who want a larger screen for entertainment means.
11", 13", 15" Air's
13", 15", 17" MBP
When they bastardised the iPod nano, they crippled it by removing the tactile user interaction.
Too many models, and economies of scale doesn't work in their favor. The more laptops sold with SSDs built-in, the faster they can get cheaper. Mechanical drives are on their way out in laptops.
See the iPod Shuffle 3rd gen. It was so bad, they went back to the 2nd gen design for the 4th gen version.