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The current MacBook & MacBook Air unibody design would last longer than the models themselves as one of Apple most iconic form factors along with the original iMac & the original iPod. But Apple should take a look at the competitions from Sony, Toshiba, Lenovo, Asus, Acer & Fujitsu for what to upgrade under the hood. Sony VAOI has used quad SSD RAID 0 for ultimate performance in their Z line-up. (This could be a great addition for content creation pro machines like 15" or 17"). Fujitsu have included 1 GB VRAM as standard in their consumer machines. Toshiba partnered up with Harman Kardon to beef up their audio. Lenovo has introduced MBA-like U300s. Asus has a ULV laptop with 14 hour battery life. Apple could not rely on great aesthetic taste & a very good OS alone to stay competitive. If they apply the same design principle as they do the MBA - remove the Optical Drive - Apple could offer to add more battery, a secondary high capacity 1TB or 2TB HDD (along with a small capacity SSD), or an integrated GPU to the 13", 15" and 17" form factor.

But the quad SSD RAID 0 is what I would like Apple to consider in their laptops. They have to differentiate the Pro models from the already speedy MacBook Air.
 
Sony VAOI has used quad SSD RAID 0 for ultimate performance in their Z line-up.
Extremely small market for this - not going to happen.

Fujitsu have included 1 GB VRAM as standard in their consumer machines.
Who cares? If the GPU can't use 1GB VRAM then there isn't any point in having it. More does not always= better

Toshiba partnered up with Harman Kardon to beef up their audio.
They have optical out, as far as I am aware that is the best you can get?

Asus has a ULV laptop with 14 hour battery life.
Where?

Apple could not rely on great aesthetic taste & a very good OS alone to stay competitive.
They have done tho, haven't they really?

If they apply the same design principle as they do the MBA - remove the Optical Drive - Apple could offer to add more battery, a secondary high capacity 1TB or 2TB HDD (along with a small capacity SSD), or an integrated GPU to the 13", 15" and 17" form factor.
This however may be possible, however I recon any optical removal will result in a larger battery only - no secondary HDD...

Some thoughts!
 
Some thoughts!

Originally Posted by hleewell

Sony VAOI has used quad SSD RAID 0 for ultimate performance in their Z line-up.


>>Extremely small market for this - not going to happen.

I think you are wrong on this one. Those folks who benefits from speed gain of having RAID 0 SSD in the system would be clamoring for this. Certainly hardcore gamers would be delighted.


Fujitsu have included 1 GB VRAM as standard in their consumer machines.


>>Who cares? If the GPU can't use 1GB VRAM then there isn't any point in having it. More does not always= better

Well, use the GPU that can make use of that 1GB VRAM

Toshiba partnered up with Harman Kardon to beef up their audio.


>>They have optical out, as far as I am aware that is the best you can get?

My point is: for a company that is associated with content creation - many musicians love Apple- they should at least make an attempt to differentiate the audio quality coming out of their laptops. Not necessarily by partnering up with Harman Kardon, but show that they are making some kind of effort. My understanding is the audio quality from their latest iMac is pretty damn good for an all-in-one system.


Asus has a ULV laptop with 14 hour battery life.


>>Where?

Sorry, not Asus, DELL. Recently HP made a laptop with 24 hr battery.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/08/hp-specs-a-24-hour-elitebook-dells-19-hour-mark-hangs-its-head/
:eek:

If they apply the same design principle as they do the MBA - remove the Optical Drive - Apple could offer to add more battery, a secondary high capacity 1TB or 2TB HDD (along with a small capacity SSD), or an integrated GPU to the 13", 15" and 17" form factor.

>>This however may be possible, however I recon any optical removal will result in a larger battery only - no secondary HDD...

I would love the last features too. At least it is feasible from Apple point of view. Cheers!
 
Originally Posted by hleewell
My point is: for a company that is associated with content creation - many musicians love Apple- they should at least make an attempt to differentiate the audio quality coming out of their laptops. Not necessarily by partnering up with Harman Kardon, but show that they are making some kind of effort. My understanding is the audio quality from their latest iMac is pretty damn good for an all-in-one system.

Any musician should be using a Firewire style connected box anyway (I've only got a lowly PreSonus, which suits my needs since I'm recording everything solo and it has enough inputs for my keyboard, guitars and mic and it's light-years better than trying to use the MBP's audio input/outputs), so the internal audio is kind of moot, IMO. Logic Pro seriously rocks (steal for the price) and is a worthwhile reason alone to buy a Mac over a PC, IMO.
 
The current MacBook & MacBook Air unibody design would last longer than the models themselves as one of Apple most iconic form factors along with the original iMac & the original iPod. But Apple should take a look at the competitions from Sony, Toshiba, Lenovo, Asus, Acer & Fujitsu for what to upgrade under the hood. Sony VAOI has used quad SSD RAID 0 for ultimate performance in their Z line-up. (This could be a great addition for content creation pro machines like 15" or 17"). Fujitsu have included 1 GB VRAM as standard in their consumer machines. Toshiba partnered up with Harman Kardon to beef up their audio. Lenovo has introduced MBA-like U300s. Asus has a ULV laptop with 14 hour battery life. Apple could not rely on great aesthetic taste & a very good OS alone to stay competitive. If they apply the same design principle as they do the MBA - remove the Optical Drive - Apple could offer to add more battery, a secondary high capacity 1TB or 2TB HDD (along with a small capacity SSD), or an integrated GPU to the 13", 15" and 17" form factor.

But the quad SSD RAID 0 is what I would like Apple to consider in their laptops. They have to differentiate the Pro models from the already speedy MacBook Air.

I would imagine the biggest level of differentiation will be a dedicated GPU.
 
Absolutely.

This will be one very interesting model, as it may have the A6 chip and the new hybrid OS.

I really want to see what OS they are making or if they're going to use Lion. I can't really imagine an OS X and iOS hybrid so they need to start showing it off :D
 
First off, the MacBook Air is a consumer device meant for the average Joe. the MacBook Pro is a prosumer device meant for people wanting to do more with their computer than the average Joe.

MacBook Air may be targeted at the Average Joe but various tests done has confirmed that the MBA 13" is as powerful as 2010 MacBook Pro. I could tell you many Professional content creators are using MacBook Air for portability & power and most wouldn't give a flying f@#k if their machines are labelled "PRO" or not.
 
MacBook Air may be targeted at the Average Joe but various tests done has confirmed that the MBA 13" is as powerful as 2010 MacBook Pro.

That statement holds no relevance to his initial point.

You are correct though, it is as powerful as the C2Ds; however, nobody is arguing that the C2Ds were not powerful enough.

Just playing devil's advocate.

The limitation of RAM on the Air is also a reason as to why people think it ins't targeted towards the people who are really "doing something" with their machine.

Of course, that statement right there is completely subjective, so take that as you will.

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I really want to see what OS they are making or if they're going to use Lion. I can't really imagine an OS X and iOS hybrid so they need to start showing it off :D

Have you seen launchpad? There you go.
 
Wish List for next 15" model:

- Hybrid SSD + HDD (128GB + 1TB HDD is match made in heaven)
- 3G capability
- MBA less-glare LCD screen
- Larger trackpad: I am loving this multi gesture on Unibody model's glass trackpad
- Better speakers. Call Harman Kardon.
- High density battery for even longer lasting life.
- Better integration with Time Capsule. Transfer speed is still slow & buggy on current models.
 
Wish List for next 15" model:

- Hybrid SSD + HDD (128GB + 1TB HDD is match made in heaven)
- 3G capability
- Larger trackpad: I am loving this multi gesture on Unibody model's glass trackpad
- Better speakers. Call Harman Kardon.
- Better integration with Time Capsule. Transfer speed is still slow & buggy on current models.

!) You can do that now; just take out the optical drive and stick an optibay(?) and a SSD in there and you're good to go.

2) Larger trackpad? How large does it have to be? And at the current design, that simply ins't possible unless you're willing to make the unit longer and wider; they want to leave space for the palms to rest on the machine.

3) Better speakers would be great.

4) I'm going to guess that's dependent on your internet connection; can anyone else chime in on their time capsule backup speeds? I use USB myself so it only takes me a few minutes to backup gigs of data.
 
!) You can do that now; just take out the optical drive and stick an optibay(?) and a SSD in there and you're good to go.

Well, it's tedious for folks who just want to use the machine right away. Optibay is for tinkerer who have lots of time in their hands. Plus, there is the question of incompatibility. Apple is notorious for locking down their system (built-in battery, built-in RAM etc)


2) Larger trackpad? How large does it have to be? And at the current design, that simply ins't possible unless you're willing to make the unit longer and wider; they want to leave space for the palms to rest on the machine.

Believe me: if you are running more than 2 applications and you are frequently going back & forth between them, you will benefit from a larger trackpad. No radical re-design is necessary anyway

4) I'm going to guess that's dependent on your internet connection; can anyone else chime in on their time capsule backup speeds? I use USB myself so it only takes me a few minutes to backup gigs of data.

Some folks use NAS (Time Capsule) for convenience. Many have TB of media files. A compact HDD will not do.
 
MacBook Air may be targeted at the Average Joe but various tests done has confirmed that the MBA 13" is as powerful as 2010 MacBook Pro. I could tell you many Professional content creators are using MacBook Air for portability & power and most wouldn't give a flying f@#k if their machines are labelled "PRO" or not.

Ask yourself why you are responded with such anger.
 
15" macbook air:
2,3ghz core i5
4gb ram
256gb - 512gb ssd
amd radeon 256mb
thin 'n cool!

price= 1700$ (256gb model) and 2000$ (512gb model).

how does that sound?
 
This is really bothering me and I just have to ask:

Where is this coming from? I can't find a September MBP release date anywhere... did I miss something? Can somebody link me to some confirmation that Apple will release new MBPs next month? (I need a new laptop!)

+1 Also want to know if the 17" MBP is due for any changes? I just got one for a great price but am still in my return period if need be. Would hate to have a new release come in within the next 30 days.
 
+1 Also want to know if the 17" MBP is due for any changes? I just got one for a great price but am still in my return period if need be. Would hate to have a new release come in within the next 30 days.
I'm hoping for the 17" MBP to be made slightly thinner, as that's what I'm going to purchase. Time will tell, I guess.
 
15" macbook air:
2,3ghz core i5
4gb ram
256gb - 512gb ssd
amd radeon 256mb
thin 'n cool!

price= 1700$ (256gb model) and 2000$ (512gb model).

how does that sound?

Mmmm i'm assuming it would only take SSD? They'd be cutting back on their profit margins if they did that...

And is that a dual or quad core?
 
I'm hoping for the 17" MBP to be made slightly thinner, as that's what I'm going to purchase. Time will tell, I guess.

Man I hate waiting...i'm loving the 17" more and more. If I have to part ways it'll be hard going back to my air :(.
 
Man I hate waiting...i'm loving the 17" more and more. If I have to part ways it'll be hard going back to my air :(.
A full 1080p screen, videos are going to look amazing on that screen. Video conversion should be fast as hell on that MBP 17" too. They have to make the 17" slightly thinner and remove the optical drive, I hope.
 
A full 1080p screen, videos are going to look amazing on that screen. Video conversion should be fast as hell on that MBP 17" too. They have to make the 17" slightly thinner and remove the optical drive, I hope.

Im torn because I want to order the samsung 470 series SSD and 8G of ram, but then I'd be forced to keep it for a while vs. getting a new refresh whenever that comes out! And yes 1920x1200 is great!
 
Still by christmas ?

Hey guys I was wondering if this is still scheduled to be released about Christmas time or if it will be sometime next year its just I really need to get a Macbook Pro but I dont know whether to get it now or wait a couple of months...
 
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