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Apple Finishing Up Work on an Ultra-Thin 15" Notebook
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Many here wouldn't make construction criticism of Apple if their lives depended on it. Maybe you aren't putting up with anything, but the majority here bash anything and everything that isn't Apple or Steve, yet whenever there is an issue of any kind with Apple, they get all defensive and make up a mountain of excuses. That isn't normal.
Not totally on its own, I'd say the lack of tee/cut/awk/sed/grep/paste/diff/tc does make it totally worthless though.
Oh, and actual pipes to use all of this stuff together, not their "|more" crap.But seriously, there's no real "problem" with Windows anymore than with OS X or Linux. All of them are different in their ways and if they can accomplish the tasks you want out of them, it's mostly Holy Wars and moot discussion. The OS just doesn't matter to the user, it's the software that runs on top of it that does the actual work the user needs to do with a computer.
However, I have a great apprehension for Microsoft as a corporate entity. They are bad for the industry and I will not support them.
No, it lags in these areas too - partitioning, package management, command line, performance, stability, interoperability, and security to name a few more reasons that makes it totally worthless.
Add no "less," no "tail," no "ps," poor built-in support for camera RAW formats (recently improved, though), nothing like OS X's global support of pdf, nothing equivalent to OS X's screen-shot capabilities, nothing like "automator," nothing like ical's ability to launch timed jobs, ...
Snap this thread lives on!
From all the above, the main thing Windows has on OSX obviously is gaming.
You ever heard this one..
Mac
"Hey PC what games you playing?"
PC
"Oh you know all of them!"
Its weird since I didnt know the PC played PS3 games and Wii games and few on XBOX that are actually not on PC.
My response to PC gaming when I hear and or am asked about it.
I.....Don't....give.....a......(F word)!
I do see why people like it. Just not my cup of tea.
From all the above, the main thing Windows has on OSX obviously is gaming.
You ever heard this one..
Mac
"Hey PC what games you playing?"
PC
"Oh you know all of them!"
Its weird since I didnt know the PC played PS3 games and Wii games and few on XBOX that are actually not on PC.
My response to PC gaming when I hear and or am asked about it.
I.....Don't....give.....a......(F word)!
I do see why people like it. Just not my cup of tea.
Cygwin. SFU. Snipping Tool. Actions. VBScript. JScript. PDF support coming in Windows 8.
Anyone doubting stability of Windows in 2011 is either ignorant or plain liar. The number of devices it works with so much stability - that's nothing short of magic.
Also you know Windows and Linux are not toy operating systems with broken crap such as funnels - which means I don't see beach balls daring me to try and do anything else when my disk is waking up from sleep etc.
Oh and I can also reliably copy files on Windows - I can skip files with permissions issues and complete copying rest of the files. Oh and I can also use AES-NI instructions.
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You missed PowerShell - a modern object-oriented scripting language that shames all of the *NIX shells for capabilities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powershell
Yep - forgot about it. Pretty powerful stuff. Also forgot this - Flash without Fans! Hardware acceleration for most modern GPUs - not for just a paltry chosen few that gets broken without reason.
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I like Crontab. I prefer the stability of *NIX which is why I chose the greener pastures of OSX.
"In the performance of IT tasks, we have encountered problems and limitations with the Windows Task Scheduler when trying to use it to run batch files on a schedule. It is not reliable and its capabilities are limited."
http://helpdeskgeek.com/free-tools-review/windows-task-scheduler-alternative/
Having tried it (during my brief and sad Vista experience), it's not at all the same thing. Very limited in what it natively supports as far as tasks, and the API is not nearly as easy to use as automator.
Cygwin is a kludge - I used it for many years. It has all sorts of issues because windows isn't designed for it - problems with long filenames, case sensitivity, slashes being backwards, etc. And almost no posix source compiles right on windows without extensive makefile modification.
As for "pdf support in windows 8" I'll believe it when I see it - on OSX it's fundamental to the way all the api's work. "snipping tool?" I assume that's 3rd party software or something? On a mac copying any window, or any portion of a window, to the clipboard or to a file is easily done by built-in keystroke, and is one of the things I do a zillion times a day. Not to mention quicktime's screen recording stuff.
"VBScript" and "JScript" are awful to us unix guys who live on sed/awk/perl/etc.
It is there, it works - I do real work with it all day along. So is Services for UNIX - a Microsoft product.
Snipping Tool ships with Windows 7. There was always a dedicated Print Screen button before that.
cmaier said:
ActivePerl , ActivePython, GnuWin32, PowerShell - lots of choices on Windows.
Frankly speaking none of these need a debate - there is so much software written for Windows you are bound to find something you can use.
I used to use activeperl, too. Also didn't work smoothly. (Remember, on windows you can't even start a script with #! and have it execute. You also can't rely on any code that involves system functions (file copying, permissions, movement, etc.) to work properly without modification within perl).
The issue is not whether or not these things exist - the issue is that they are bolt-ons and they work like bolt-ons, and nothing from the greater UNIX world works without modification on them.
still complaining about Windows 2001, I see!
That discusses (and uses screen shots) from XP. My pic and the link are for "Task Scheduler 2.0" in Vista/2008 and later.
Are you also referring to XP?
Start->"All programs"->Accessories->"Snipping Tool"
Part of the OS.
Can do Full Screen, Window, Rectangular (rubber-band) or Free-hand captures.
To clipboard, or to a file.
Simple "copy screen to clipboard" is <PrintScreen> key, "copy selected window to clipboard" is <Alt><PrintScreen>. Then paste.
</tangent> - back to thin notebooks.
That discusses (and uses screen shots) from XP. My pic and the link are for "Task Scheduler 2.0" in Vista/2008 and later.
Are you also referring to XP?
Start->"All programs"->Accessories->"Snipping Tool"
Part of the OS.
Can do Full Screen, Window, Rectangular (rubber-band) or Free-hand captures.
To clipboard, or to a file.
Simple "copy screen to clipboard" is <PrintScreen> key, "copy selected window to clipboard" is <Alt><PrintScreen>. Then paste.
</tangent> - back to thin notebooks.
IOW, Windows is NOT UNIX. And that's not Windows' fault really. Point is that most things from UNIX world can be made to work on Windows - facilities exist to get that done, even if in a not-perfectly-ideal way. More importantly there are ways to achieve similar things using the Windows way - there isn't a widely used UNIX facility without a Windows counterpart - both *NIX based systems and Windows are pretty mature at this point.
[ OS X, up until Lion did not have a usable bigger/high-res cursor, btw. All these little things make me use Windows when doing serious work - not sure if that's just me or my habits.]
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I confess that while my windows experience started at 1.0, it ended after a month or so with Vista.
I'm not denying that Windows has its place. I'm just pointing out that its place is with weenies who don't understand that UNIX is the most glorious operating system family and that the UNIX philosophy is the One True Way. (Just try searching 10,000 files for lines that start with S or Q, end in . or ;, and contain a number greater than 999 in-between on windows, and creating a pdf containing such lines, and explain to me why it's easier to do on windows than grep'ing for ^[SQ].*1000.*[.;]$ and piping into enscript.)
My only point is if you're use to the powerful facilities of UNIX, the fact that there are ways to achieve the same thing with more kludginess and effort on windows is not of much comfort.
How long has Windows 7 been out yet Windows XP still dominates Windows business PC's in enterprise?
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/...eals-windows-xp-still-dominates-business-pcs/
PowerShell - Get-Child-Item and Select-String. If you add PDFSharp library here is an amazing thing you can do [Taken from this blog ]
[ My 300,000+ person company has already moved to Win 7 btw.]
Code:
Add-Type -Path C:\assemblies\PdfSharp.dll
Function Merge-PDF {
Param($path, $filename)
$output = New-Object PdfSharp.Pdf.PdfDocument
$PdfReader = [PdfSharp.Pdf.IO.PdfReader]
$PdfDocumentOpenMode = [PdfSharp.Pdf.IO.PdfDocumentOpenMode]
foreach($i in (gci $path *.pdf -Recurse)) {
$input = New-Object PdfSharp.Pdf.PdfDocument
$input = $PdfReader::Open($i.fullname, $PdfDocumentOpenMode::Import)
$input.Pages | %{$output.AddPage($_)}
}
$output.Save($filename)
}Also - I am a long time *NIX user - still deal with HPUX, Solaris, Linux at work exclusively for the most part. I understand and applaud UNIX but I don't think I could ditch Windows from the desktop because it is not UNIX. Tera Term and remote Linux/HPUX/Solaris boxes solve that problem for me decently without having to try and run Youtube on UNIX desktop!
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