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Apple Fitness+ Available Without Apple Watch on iOS 16.1 and tvOS 16.1

sharkzor said:
can't understand why Fitness+ is not available in other european countries.
I live in the netherlands, we can perfectly understand english.
i even have my phone set to english. i can't make head or tails of iOS in dutch.
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This kind of stuff is most certainly legal/regulation related.
 
Aleksitis said:
This is super disappointing - for almost 2 years, the Fitness+ has been running and only 21 countries are supported. What about other countries, why this can not be launched in the rest of Europe / EU countries? :(

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I also cannot comprehend this.

Sure, there are a few countries that need dubbed versions of all media.

But all Fitness+ content is in English and at a level that the vast majority of Europeans have mastered in elementary school. Why is this never happening or taking several many years to launch?

It has to be some sort of weird issue with licensing and royalties? Or are Apple just being lazy with smaller languages like how it's never giving smaller languages predictive and swipe typing on iOS?

Regardless, I wish Apple would at the very least lower its Apple One bundle pricing in countries that don't get the full selection of services. It's the exact same price after subtracting sales tax. Why would anyone subscribe paying full price if we don't get News or Fitness+?
 
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I don’t understand Apple not bringing it to the rest of the EU countries. They have already taken the hurdle of complying with EU level regulations by operating in some EU countries which should cover market entrance to the rest of the EU. Just release it in English and slowly add languages.
 
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senttoschool said:
This kind of stuff is most certainly legal/regulation related.
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But that doesn't add up considering the many European countries that do already have Fitness+

Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, France, Germany, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Portugal, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Switzerland, the UAE, the UK. and the U.S. That's all the countries with Fitness+ support.

Most if not all of the E.U. countries listed here fall under the same copyright/licensing laws as a consequence of being members of the E.U. Sales of media, music, TV shows, video games, etc., wouldn't work in the E.U. if that wasn't the case.
 
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jav6454 said:
So if you are using an iPhone for these without the watch, are cals calculated based on an AI driven estimate?
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That's what I thought as well: already, the calories are derived from the heartbeat, which is an educated guess at best. But pulling those numbers out of thin air is ridiculous.

I quite like Apple Fitness+ and use it nearly daily, but a few more words explaining the technical background would be nice. As my Apple Watch Ultra is hopefully on its way, I'm not all that affected or concerned personally though... :)

H.
 
senttoschool said:
Still no macOS app. This means it's very difficult to display the workout videos in a large screen.

With a macOS app, you can connect to a big monitor or big TV easily. Without a macOS app, you need an Apple TV or a new TV that has Airplay built in - both of which are not common.

Come on Apple. Come on "work" from home employees. Make a macOS app already. I mean for f sakes, Apple Silicon should have made building macOS apps easy. Just check the box that would enable the Fitness iPad app to be downloaded by Apple Silicon macs. Then we can start using it with our macs immediately.
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Sadly the Mac is down to playing about third or fourth fiddle. They would rather use Fitness+ as a way to drive TV and (previously) Watch sales. I don’t think anyone outside the macOS team is thinking much about Mac users anymore.
 
Can't believe Apple still hasn't allowed more than one watch to connect to Apple Fitness. Would be nice to see both mine and my wifes metrics as we work out together.
 
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Helmlein said:
That's what I thought as well: already, the calories are derived from the heartbeat, which is an educated guess at best. But pulling those numbers out of thin air is ridiculous.

I quite like Apple Fitness+ and use it nearly daily, but a few more words explaining the technical background would be nice. As my Apple Watch Ultra is hopefully on its way, I'm not all that affected or concerned personally though... :)

H.
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I have an SS AW, so I’m not concerned as much. Just curious on how that will be handled.
 
That's neat to hear! At least it's one less reason not to get it. However, I'm going to wait for ios16 to go below $300, at minimum, before I even consider getting in on this. And IIRC, you can't just get Fitness+, no? It has to be part of Apple One premium tier?

andreagrandi said:
Why iPhone and not iPad (once it gets iPadOS 16.x of course) ?
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It works on iPad, unless you mean optimized for that?
 
ackmondual said:
That's neat to hear! At least it's one less reason not to get it. However, I'm going to wait for ios16 to go below $300, at minimum, before I even consider getting in on this. And IIRC, you can't just get Fitness+, no? It has to be part of Apple One premium tier?


It works on iPad, unless you mean optimized for that?
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I mean without an Apple Watch
 
sharkzor said:
can't understand why Fitness+ is not available in other european countries.
I live in the netherlands, we can perfectly understand english.
i even have my phone set to english. i can't make head or tails of iOS in dutch.
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Is it not translated correctly in Dutch?
 
senttoschool said:
Still no macOS app. This means it's very difficult to display the workout videos in a large screen.

With a macOS app, you can connect to a big monitor or big TV easily. Without a macOS app, you need an Apple TV or a new TV that has Airplay built in - both of which are not common.

Come on Apple. Come on "work" from home employees. Make a macOS app already. I mean for f sakes, Apple Silicon should have made building macOS apps easy. Just check the box that would enable the Fitness iPad app to be downloaded by Apple Silicon macs. Then we can start using it with our macs immediately.
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How are Apple TVs not common? It's worth the price alone to not have to carry a Mac to your TV and use more electricity.
 
Xand&Roby said:
Desperate move to save a service that doesn't pay for itself, given the high costs, and whose purpose was to sell Apple Watch, but failed, relegating the same device to uselessness because it has already lost its fashion attractiveness and it was abandoned for 4 generations without a serious update of the sensors, to the point that they had to pretend to make it rugged in order to sell it.
I see it as bad for the Apple Watch, if Fitness+ and the Fitness app will work without it.
For Fitness+, as with too many Apple services oriented exclusively to the US, as long as it lasts the shareholders will be happy, otherwise they will cut those too. Apple will try to sell everything it can and cut where it can, in order to give shareholders its own dividends.
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Thats a long story to make up.

Apple Watch is the most popular timepiece in human history but as usual that is not enough.

Also you say Apple isn't selling much then claim they make money for shareholders....
So... WHERE is this money coming from???
 
Helmlein said:
That's what I thought as well: already, the calories are derived from the heartbeat, which is an educated guess at best. But pulling those numbers out of thin air is ridiculous.

I quite like Apple Fitness+ and use it nearly daily, but a few more words explaining the technical background would be nice. As my Apple Watch Ultra is hopefully on its way, I'm not all that affected or concerned personally though... :)

H.
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My common sense tells me they wont be calculated or will just be added to a generic "exercise time" stat.
 
senttoschool said:
No. It's not a good product. I do not want to replace my perfectly good Fire TV. Like 98% of the smart TV stick owners out there, I don't want to buy an Apple TV.
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No one asked you about your crappy spyware Apple TV-wannabe.

I SAID, they are common. Stop changing the subject because you're wrong.
 
BeatsBeats said:
No one asked you about your crappy spyware Apple TV-wannabe.

I SAID, they are common. Stop changing the subject because you're wrong.
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2% is not common. You're just mad because I used numbers to prove you wrong but you're just saying "you're wrong" without any backing.
 
senttoschool said:
2% is not common. You're just mad because I used numbers to prove you wrong but you're just saying "you're wrong" without any backing.
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AGAIN,

You can buy one off the shelf at Walmart. This isn't a damn 1935 baseball card or a shiny Charizard card.

I just came back from Walmart Mart and they had some.

Since you're wrong you're gonna change the subject to how much you like your Nintendo Switch haha.
 
"in all 21 countries where the service is currently offered, including the United States, Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, France, Germany, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Portugal, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Switzerland, the UAE, and the UK."

Okay, so you're going out of the Russian market due to the Russian invasion, you're canceling Russian social apps, you don't deliver them Fitness+ in Russian, but you are still offering it in Russia.

What about Poland? We can handle exercising in English, really.
 
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