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Steve Jobs' loss was inevitably going to catch up with Apple. Tim Cook is a very competent CEO but he's not a visionary.

Steve Jobs could see some unfinished technology and understand where that would pay off in 5, 10 even 20 years. The mouse and cursor UI tech was just sitting unused at Xerox. Steve's genius wasn't necessarily inventing brand new things from nothing. It was in seeing disparate parts and putting them together into something innovative that others hadn't yet seen.

Jobs' last big move was acquiring Siri and quickly implementing it into the iPhone. When he died, Tim Cook let it sit, like Xerox did with the mouse, unable to see the massive importance it would play in a shift to conversational UI in a decade.

Apple has the resources to catch up but it was inevitable that sooner or later, the next Steve Jobs was going to outwit Cook like Sam Altman at openAI did. Apple needs a dreamer.
 
I'm not very optimistic given that Apple's built-in dictation feature is still generations behind Dragon (which seems to be integrated with MS Teams and is amazing).

I have a mid-western accent, which is about as vanilla as you can get...and the errors are equivalent of 2010-era Dragon.
 
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Society and the culture are going to rue the day AI was unleashed upon the world. Any technology can be used for both good and evil. Unregulated, unbridled AI is ripe for abuse. If you don't believe that then just look at what mobile phones and social media have done to our youth. Every social scientist, psychologist, anthropologist, mental health expert are in agreement that these ‘tools’ have caused havoc. Imagine what AI will do.
I'll agree with you on social media. But mobile phones have been around for almost 50 years and no prior generations have had to deal with the issues Millennials and Gen Z have.

It's not the mobile phone. 4chan was stirring up trouble and controversy before Apple and Google launched their app stores, allowing us to download social media apps onto our mobile phones. We saw instances of cyberbullying even before the iPhone was released -- Megan Meier was cyberbullied (on MySpace) and committed suicide in 2006.
 
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Apple is developing a large array of features that use generative AI, including a new version Siri, that could launch next year, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

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In his latest "Power On" newsletter, Gurman said that despite Apple CEO Tim Cook's claim that Apple has been working on generative AI technology for years, Apple's executives were "caught off guard" by the industry's sudden interest in AI and have been anxiously "scrambling since late last year to make up for lost time."

Apple's senior vice president of machine learning and AI strategy, John Giannandrea, and senior vice president of software engineering Craig Federighi are apparently leading the company's AI efforts. Eddy Cue, Apple's senior vice president of services, is also involved in the push.

Giannandrea is said to be overseeing development of the underlying technologies for a new AI system. Most notably, his team is working on a new, "smarter version of Siri" that is deeply integrated with AI. Gurman says it could be ready as soon as next year.

On the other hand, Federighi is supervising the integration of AI into to the next major version of iOS by introducing features running on Apple's large language model (LLM). Among the new features is a revamped interaction between Siri and the Messages app, enabling users to field complex questions and auto-complete sentences more effectively. Federighi's team is also looking at integrating AI into Xcode to help developers write code more quickly, bringing it in line with services like Microsoft's GitHub Copilot.

Cue is reportedly attempting to add AI to as many Apple apps as possible, including features in Apple Music, such as auto-generated playlists, and productivity apps like Pages and Keynote, where AI could assist with writing or creating slide decks. Apple is also apparently testing the use of generative AI for internal customer service apps within AppleCare.

Apple is purportedly on course to spend $1 billion per year on AI research. Whether Apple should deploy generative AI as a completely on-device experience, a cloud-based setup, or a hybrid approach, is currently a source of debate internally.

Gurman previously reported that Apple is working on a chatbot tool that some engineers have dubbed "Apple GPT" to rival OpenAI's ChatGPT.

Article Link: Apple Generative AI Features and Smarter Siri Could Launch Next Year
Apple execs were "caught off guard" because Lil' Timmy has zero vision beyond the bottom dollar. He is a soulless, lifeless, spiritless status-quo leader token as a headfigure.

Tim never should have taken over at Apple. And Siri has always, ALWAYS, been a laughable joke - it is one of the few things you simply can't defend against better products like Android/Alexa/etc.
 
Steve Jobs' loss was inevitably going to catch up with Apple. Tim Cook is a very competent CEO but he's not a visionary.

Steve Jobs could see some unfinished technology and understand where that would pay off in 5, 10 even 20 years. The mouse and cursor UI tech was just sitting unused at Xerox. Steve's genius wasn't necessarily inventing brand new things from nothing. It was in seeing disparate parts and putting them together into something innovative that others hadn't yet seen.

Jobs' last big move was acquiring Siri and quickly implementing it into the iPhone. When he died, Tim Cook let it sit, like Xerox did with the mouse, unable to see the massive importance it would play in a shift to conversational UI in a decade.

Apple has the resources to catch up but it was inevitable that sooner or later, the next Steve Jobs was going to outwit Cook like Sam Altman at openAI did. Apple needs a dreamer.
I don’t want to say that LLM chatbots are not interesting, but there’s definitely not a “massive shift to a conversational UI” LOL. In fact, there’s been a massive shift to visual UIs for decades. There’s a lot of AI (although I don’t like the name, because it’s a generic buzzword that can cover basically everything) everywhere, chatbots are just another part of it. Of course, if LLMs help to improve Siri (while maintaining privacy, etc.), even better. But maybe ask yourself: why hasn’t Apple put some effort in order to catch up with Google or Alexa? I guess it’s because, other than for basic stuff (old voice control was awful even for those tasks), people don’t really care about voice assistants. If you want to see how Apple invests in “AI”, look at the Vision Pro.
 
Yeah, and the fact that you have to ask again on your phone! Why can’t the HomePod just push and show results on your iPhone or the closest device with the display turned on? It seems like such a simple handoff feature.
Yep, all kinds of misses with Siri. Trying to use it for texting to people while driving has slowly gotten better but still a high failure rate.

Every morning I have several alarms set because sometimes I work late hours, and usually have to kick off early morning meetings. Every morning, I literally have to close my iPad and cover my watch to simply say, ‘Siri, turn off all alarms‘ and it’s still around a 50% fail rate where ‘she’ will randomly just list my alarms, sometimes multiple times in a row. There’s no clarifying valid question e.g. ‘did you mean all or a specific one?’ so have to start over again. Instead of a calm wakeup, I want to throw Siri and the phone out the window.

And God help you if for example, you’re cooking so have your iPad nearby with e.g. a recipe in notes or on-screen. Even with it 20 feet away on a counter, while bringing my mouth to my watch to set a timer, it’s sometimes hit or miss as to which device will pick up the timer, while of course, there is no sane synchronization across devices. Yes, if I set an alarm on my phone, I can dismiss it on my watch, but if the iPad picks up the timer, it doesn’t also get sent to my watch or phone.

Siri fails at completely simple use cases, and often enough just at the basic portion which is NLP/speech to text to feed into the <rest, which in a future case would likely be a form of LLM>. I don’t have high hopes for Apple leading on AI, as they can’t even get Siri to significantly suck less.

Someone will correctly call out that there is a huge difference in ChatGPT with 175B hyperparams, and in training them (massive massive GPU compute farms and mass data ingestion) vs trying to run more locally for ‘inferencing’ but there are already some smaller LLMs like LLaMa2(7-65B hyperparams IIRC) and others with growing effectiveness which can significantly reduce compute load for ‘deployed’ LLMs for inferencing, meaning it becomes possible to do more on more reasonable hardware.

OpenAI indeed set the world on fire from a speculation standpoint, and it’s spurred a LOT of research and competition and funding, although I personally am not sure of the real ‘killer use cases’/‘killer app’ as LLMs by definition have no cognizance or weighing of ‘truth’ and instead are generally huge pattern-based systems, e.g. ‘what s the most likely sentence to respond with?’ or word/phrase determination based on huge swaths of Internet data ingestion - which may or may not be true. Go check a ‘Trump lie counter’(among others) and let us hope for example, not a single bit of re-published/shared nonsense from him or many others were used as training data - but they very likely were.

Of course, AI/ML can be ‘chained,’ and data can be better curated, so you can get to another AI that is simply scrubbing available data and cross-referencing it to determine ‘is this true?’ with a degree of certainty, and using that to curate a more proper dataset (used for training the LLMs and other networks) for training. The speech to text can absolutely be improved as a relatively simpler step, before hitting a reduced hyperparam pre-trained and fine-tuned ‘mini LLM’ requiring at least lower resources. Maybe we’ll see something like distributed resources across all of our Apple devices, e.g. more ‘local computing’ even if spread across our watches, phones, iPads, and Macs, instead of Amazon/Alexa ‘everything goes up to the Cloud’.

This whole thing (generative, in particular the recent LLM spotlight) is changing fairly rapidly at the moment still, including on what the use cases worth pursuing for real revenue vs ‘wow factor’ (it IS very cool after all, even if it’s lying/‘hallucinating’). I don’t have high hopes for Apple, but again, it wouldn’t take much improvement over what they have today to be better than current Siri at least.
 
It's actually getting worse in some cases.

Some have discovered that GPT4 was just 8 instances of GPT3 stacked on top of each other. That makes it extremely inefficient for what you are getting out of it. Literally scorching the planet to death just to play with a word machine.

Some have also noticed model decay. This is what happens when AI models scrape data created by AI models. It's similar to what happens when a VHS tape is copied again and again and again. The quality degrades over time.

They go from being trained on high quality data to being trained on lower and lower quality data.

So imagine a future where an AI is surfing an internet full of AI generated garbage, fake articles, fake images, and general enpooification.

Exactly. People forget about the dirty little secrets that get this stuff started. Cryptocurrency had its value inflated through ransomware payments. Without ransomware bitcoin would be worthless.

ChatGPT plagiarized for free the work of millions of people and trillions of hours. But it can only do that once. Now the AI companies want to pull the ladder up and not let anyone get high quality training data.

So yes you’re exactly right. If we just let AI generate everything it will quickly degrade and our culture will stagnate even more than it has the last fifteen years.
 
I can't count how many times I have used Co-Pilot and Bing Chat and its less than 10 times. Co-Pilot is in fact is garbage. I asked it to give me a basic understanding of the differences between CAT5E and CAT6 and it just vomited a crap load of data in this narrow rectangle. This thing is supposed to be saving you time by summarizing stuff. Yet it's giving you more work. So, no, neither Microsoft or Google has this figured out yet.
 
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What does AI development mean anymore? So vague.
Let’s even take the word “apple”, if you search that word you don’t even get the fruit anymore. Corporations try to predetermine what we think that simple answers get overlooked.
 
"Could launch next year"? COULD?? Needs to! Siri needs improvement in iOS 18, or Apple's involvement in voice assistant tech is toast. Siri is SO BAD now, it can't go another year with what we're seeing with ChatGPT and Google. And it isn't even the breadth of what generative AI can do, it really is merely the terrible "prompt" handling that is going to be Siri's death knell. At this point I'd just settle for some on-device intelligence that could carry over information from the exchange directly prior! How many times I've asked Siri to send a message to the person that JUST SENT ME A MESSAGE, and Siri responds with a "Which Susan do you mean?" THE ONE YOU JUST READ ME A MESSAGED FROM, IDIOT! And it doesn't get better the more you try to do. At this point, I can't even expect Apple to get Siri answering queries like ChatGPT within a year… but I'd sure like Siri to just be able to understand well-phrased, "structured" commands.
(Another "need" is for when Siri misinterprets ONE word in, say, a message I'm crafting to send… eg, I saw "I'm headed to work" and for some reason Siri hears "I'm headed to word" (which makes NO sense), why can't I say "change word to work"? Nope… need to say "change it", and then restate the ENTIRE phrase… whereby Siri will invariably mishear something different… "I'm head did to work". 🤦‍♂️ Also, the ability to 'chain' requests: "turn on the kitchen light and the dining room light." Is 2023, and Siri still can't do what Alexa does. And why do I have to wait for Siri to finish speaking before I can issue a follow-up command, ie "Do you ["Send it.] want to Change it ["SEND It!"] or Send it?" ["SEND IT!"] "OK, I'll send it." This is why we have duplex communication channels, Apple! Worse, I paid $200 for AirPods Pro that have duplex communication channels and isolation, and Siri doesn't use. Sheesh.)
 
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I hope they revise the branding because it's kinda lame to cram too much unrelated stuff under the "Siri" umbrella.
 
I can't count how many times I have used Co-Pilot and Bing Chat and its less than 10 times. Co-Pilot is in fact is garbage. I asked it to give me a basic understanding of the differences between CAT5E and CAT6 and it just vomited a crap load of data in this narrow rectangle. This thing is supposed to be saving you time by summarizing stuff. Yet it's giving you more work. So, no, neither Microsoft or Google has this figured out yet.
I’ve found Bing Chat to be pretty good so far… I guess depends on the questions too.

I’ve found it a nice addition to regular bing searches in the way it summarizes info in a very digestible way.

But I’m super cautious about using it for anything critical. Always need to check, check and check again.
 
By the time the Macs get really good at creating generative ai and doing your work for you they will also be great for making sure the images and works you create on your own are up to the standards of that time. No need for downvotes or moderators in that brave new world. Every place you post anything will already have a full understanding of the meaning and context of any image you post as soon as you post it. That is what this type of software can really do and is worth the millions of investment dollars it takes to bring it to the public.
 
I don’t want to say that LLM chatbots are not interesting, but there’s definitely not a “massive shift to a conversational UI” LOL. In fact, there’s been a massive shift to visual UIs for decades. There’s a lot of AI (although I don’t like the name, because it’s a generic buzzword that can cover basically everything) everywhere, chatbots are just another part of it. Of course, if LLMs help to improve Siri (while maintaining privacy, etc.), even better. But maybe ask yourself: why hasn’t Apple put some effort in order to catch up with Google or Alexa? I guess it’s because, other than for basic stuff (old voice control was awful even for those tasks), people don’t really care about voice assistants. If you want to see how Apple invests in “AI”, look at the Vision Pro.
Yep, and there’s also a long story of some big companies claiming ‘AI’ for things ranging from chatbots for customer service and other purposes, that I can tell you on peeling back the layers, in many cases were actually just large manually created decision trees. Around 8-ish years back, there was a big ‘chat bot explosion’ and at a larger F100 company, there was an ‘AI startup’ pushing their ‘chat bot intelligent technology’ - which for some reason had led to a contract before I was there. In reality, this thing was a nightmare and had approaching zero chance of being able to sanely support or direct users for help on hundreds to thousands of products, and was a HUGE decision tree with very little ‘smarts’ anywhere at all, but a guaranteed never-ending stream of tree updates needing to be done on a daily basis.

Another very large company was bidding for a tens of millions of dollars contracts to effectively merge a reasonable number of discrete data sources into single source of searching, along with of course their ‘awesome customer interface.’ They went on and on about having ‘deep domain knowledge’ inherent in the system, so that for example, responses in a travel agency context were proper for travel versus for example, technology product support. I asked for reference ‘best customers leveraging their tool’ then asked when we could meet. We’ll just say it was so much smoke and mirrors, for tens of millions of $s, and was completely unusable. This was from another F100 company.

So yeah, they hype train never dies, just changes targets, but in many cases is represented as ‘ready for prime time’ when in reality it may turn into endless additional $$$ being spent (often via service contracts to the tech provider) that may in reality- never see the light of day.

I’m still waiting for the true ‘killer apps’ to be remotely viable, non-hallucinating, etc. especially in light of current training and deployment costs. No doubt they’ll get there, but what OpenAI showed is a far cry from ‘this is worth the cost of licensing, deploying, training to make money’ - the goal of all companies out there… for some specific use cases it will work well for.
 
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