Apple Gestapo: Engineer fired for showing iPad to Woz hours before launch [UPDATED]

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  1. GrindedDown macrumors 6502a

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    Over at gizmodo after interviewing Steve Wozniak:

    The morning of the iPad launch, an engineer showed Woz an iPad for two minutes. For this he was fired.​

    Someone: Secrets secrets are no fun unless you tell ev....

    Apple: You're fired!

    Source: Gizmodo Article

    Update: According to several news sources including yours truly MacRumors, the engineer brought a 3G iPad to the wifi launch in a public mall and showed it to Woz. There is video floating around of the alleged engineer (I'll post source on request) showing it to Woz, but also demoing it to others around Woz.
     
  2. iMessengerApp macrumors member

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    Wow... that is not right. Especially since Woz is still considered an independent contractor of Apple. He is allowed to work at anytime if he chooses.
     
  3. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    I guess all the engineers had orders to show the iPad to nobody. Including other employees, independent contractors, friends and family, people you've seen on TV, nobody.
     
  4. GrindedDown thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I would be scared to even look at it myself...
     
  5. bobob macrumors 68030

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    It's awesome that threads come pre-Godwinized nowadays! Isn't the future amazing?
     
  6. emaja macrumors 68000

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    If your employer tells you not to do something, and you do it anyway, expect to be disciplined in some way. If you work for Apple, you know how they are about this kind of thing, so you should be extra careful.

    Gray Powell is lucky that Apple is forgiving when it comes to mistakes. The "mystery engineer" deliberately disobeyed, therefore he was fired.

    It sucks, but he has no one to blame but himself. I feel for the guy.
     
  7. GrindedDown thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    The way I figure it, let's just start the probability at 1 and not even let it approach it in case this thread is short lived ya know?
     
  8. DKatri macrumors 6502

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    I dont know. I think Woz is one of the few people that it should be ok to show it to. He's gotta be up there with Jobs, Schiller, and Ive.
     
  9. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    The only reason Powell isn't fired was because if he was, Apple would have such bad PR
     
  10. Baron58 macrumors 6502

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    Then Jobs, Schiller or Ive would have shown it to him. Presumably they didn't, so it wasn't this guy's place to make the decision.

    Getting fired over it sucks, but occasional public lynchings are necessary to make sure the rest of the employees get the message.
     
  11. calderone macrumors 68040

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    I guess i will wait for the story to appear somewhere besides Gizmodo.
     
  12. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    I don't really buy this. Would anyone really have such a huge issue with Apple firing someone for being so blatantly irresponsible (assuming the details of the story as we know it are true)? The guy was allowed to carry around a secret prototype and then forgets it at a bar. I'm guessing most companies would have a pretty serious problem with that. Not to mention that Apple knew he lost it long before (as in several weeks) his name showed up on Gizmodo.
     
  13. brendu macrumors 68020

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    no wonder Woz left apple... I bet he cant stand working with jobs... the guy is a nutcase.
     
  14. Hmac macrumors 68020

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    Sounds like Woz' engineer buddy should have paid closer attention to the rules. I'll bet that story circulated pretty quick at Apple Inc....and I'll bet the result is their engineers will be a lot more careful from now on.

    Sorry the guy lost his job, but he broke the rules and should have known better.

    IF it's a true story...
     
  15. maflynn Moderator

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    My disenfranchisement with Apple

    Some things about Apple, I just don't like.
    Here's a story as told by the Woz
    http://gizmodo.com/5523673/steve-wozniak-on-apple-security-employee-termination-and-gray-powell

    This emphasized text is basically how I'm starting to feel about the company.

    Has anyone else been noticing a level of arrogance and/or vindictiveness about apple? While I like their products, I question by brand loyalty as more of these types of stories come out.

    Thoughts/opinions.
     
  16. Mark Booth macrumors 65816

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    Wha... wha... My employer told me not to do xyz and when I did xyz anyway, they fired me. How unfair! Wha! Wha!

    Call the:

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    :rolleyes:

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  17. Hmac macrumors 68020

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    The guy should have paid closer attention to the rules.

    Assuming it's a true story...


    Opinions...? As for me, I don't give a crap how a company treats its employees...that's their business and something I am unqualified to judge. I do give a crap about how they treat me and Apple has treated me just fine.
     
  18. peestandingup macrumors regular

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    Woz is still technically employed by Apple. Call me crazy but I'm guessing that if you were this engineer & the co-founder of Apple wanted to look at a product, you'd let them.

    Its freakin Woz for christ sake.
     
  19. Hmac macrumors 68020

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    Yeah...right up there at the top of Apple's concerns...how their perceived by the public.

    Apple's on a mission. Details aren't going to stand in their way. Who knows why Gray Davis wasn't fired and Woz' engineer buddy was? We certainly don't have all the facts and likely never will.
     
  20. Mitchll macrumors newbie

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    If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. The part where you get a paycheck is good, the part where you are supposed to do what you agreed to do is bad? Give me a break! There is certainly no secret about Apple's reaction to violating their rules.
     
  21. kas23 macrumors 603

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    Or, because it was a controlled leak. He supposedly brought the thing out to a bar. C'mon! Would you have done that with your future? Him not being fired is a clear indication this whole "leak" thing was staged to get them on the national news for a few days. That's some awful cheap advertising.
     
  22. goobot macrumors 603

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    Woz has just as much power as jobs. This is stupid
     
  23. peestandingup macrumors regular

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    Woz can do whatever Woz wants to do IMO.

    Its likely this story isnt true as I dont believe Jobs would let them fire the guy since it was who it was. Its likely the guy would get his ass-chewed out, but I think if Woz told Jobs not to fire the guy, then he wouldnt be fired. Simple as that.
     

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