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All it has to do is calculate based off of current usage. It really is much more simple then you make it out to be. If you are on the phone and look at it, it will tell you how long you have if you keep talking on the phone until it is dead. As soon as you hang up, that time remaining increases based off of the now current usage (not on the phone, but still in non-standby mode). Once it goes into standby, this can be recalculated based off of low power mode.

I could easily program this in windows, All it has to do is calculate based off of current voltage usage, as it goes up, the time remaining is decreased, as it goes down, time remaining is increased. I would need to know the minimum voltage of the battery when the device shuts off. I am not an iOS programmer, so I would have no idea how to do this in iOS, but it would be easy enough to do in windows.

Now, I see no real need for this, but wouldn't hate it if they implemented it with an on/off switch. Just like numeric % of battery remaining, love it or hate it, there are people who want it back, and if it is implemented like it was in the past (on/off switch), no one is forced either way.
Not saying the algorithm is hard, I'm saying it's inaccurate. Anyone who "discussed" the MBP 16 and the time remaining indicator saw all of the people who would say "I just booted my computer, it says only 4 hours! I want my money back." It is totally misleading for people who don't understand different activities use different power. With the iPhone, standby vs. Waze or HDR streaming, battery life swings dramatically with different usage. One minute saying 15 hours remaining to the next minute saying 5 hours remaining would freak people out. A little information is quite dangerous for the general user, not us uber-nerds.
 
Not saying the algorithm is hard, I'm saying it's inaccurate. Anyone who "discussed" the MBP 16 and the time remaining indicator saw all of the people who would say "I just booted my computer, it says only 4 hours! I want my money back." It is totally misleading for people who don't understand different activities use different power. With the iPhone, standby vs. Waze or HDR streaming, battery life swings dramatically with different usage. One minute saying 15 hours remaining to the next minute saying 5 hours remaining would freak people out. A little information is quite dangerous for the general user, not us uber-nerds.

Possibly. But I hardly see people yelling and screaming about their GPS ETA time being off. Especially here in the NY Metroplex. It tells you the ETA, and as you hit bumper to bumper traffic it increases. I often get to my destination an hour or more after it's initial calculation because of Long Island NY traffic.

I think there are a few who would go ape **** about the time being off, the rest would either understand it right away, or would understand it after it was explained once.

I do not think I would ever use it, but for sure, I would put the % back on, the day it comes back. The way the battery bar is implemented it is very difficult to know if I have 3/4 battery life left, or if I'm on notch below full.
 
Possibly. But I hardly see people yelling and screaming about their GPS ETA time being off. Especially here in the NY Metroplex. It tells you the ETA, and as you hit bumper to bumper traffic it increases. I often get to my destination an hour or more after it's initial calculation because of Long Island NY traffic.

I think there are a few who would go ape **** about the time being off, the rest would either understand it right away, or would understand it after it was explained once.

I do not think I would ever use it, but for sure, I would put the % back on, the day it comes back. The way the battery bar is implemented it is very difficult to know if I have 3/4 battery life left, or if I'm on notch below full.
Haha. You should search in the Macbook Pro section for "battery life". Mind boggling how many people can't make sense of the time estimate (it's more than a few). As for GPS, I'd say people understand car traveling better than the voodoo inside a modern electronics device. Not surprising when you hit an unexpected traffic jam, you will be a little late. People have been making up that excuse for decades already. We both agree that % is good to have on the iPhone. Obviously not a dealbreaker, nor is it affecting my life right now. It would just be nice for those times.
 
Possibly. But I hardly see people yelling and screaming about their GPS ETA time being off. Especially here in the NY Metroplex. It tells you the ETA, and as you hit bumper to bumper traffic it increases. I often get to my destination an hour or more after it's initial calculation because of Long Island NY traffic.

I think there are a few who would go ape **** about the time being off, the rest would either understand it right away, or would understand it after it was explained once.

I do not think I would ever use it, but for sure, I would put the % back on, the day it comes back. The way the battery bar is implemented it is very difficult to know if I have 3/4 battery life left, or if I'm on notch below full.
People's understanding of something much more fundamental and everyday like traffic are fairly different than battery usage.
 
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...one or more people suggested using the Apple battery widget. I think this is an almost brilliant suggestion.

Activating the battery widget doesn't get you lock screen or home screen battery percentage as a number, but it does mean that you can swipe to the widget screen and if you put the battery widget so it's visible without scrolling, you can get it with just a thumb swipe to the right.

IMO that's much better than swiping down from the upper RH corner (a two-hand operation for most people) or doing the reachability swipe followed by the downswipe from the mid-RH edge.

Would still like to have this on the lock screen.
 
Right now you have options. I personally don’t ever want to see a percentage up there that constantly changes. Just distracting to me. The battery icon alone is all I want to see there.
 
Right now you have options. I personally don’t ever want to see a percentage up there that constantly changes. Just distracting to me. The battery icon alone is all I want to see there.

Well, although we technically do have options, we don’t. The OP and others, including myself, are seeking an option to have the battery percentage show either over, or in place of the battery bar at the top. Anything else is a work-around to see what we used to be able to see pre X.

I see them bringing it back with a percentage over the current battery bar, once they implement many of the other higher priority issues.
 
The point is that users don't have the options that they had before, and a simple software update is all that's required to give the X the same options that users of the 8 and earlier iPhones have had.
 
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The point is that users don't have the options that they had before, and a simple software update is all that's required to give the X the same options that users of the 8 and earlier iPhones have had.

I’m on the 8+ and I see both the percentage and the battery bar. The percentage is all I need regardless of device.
 
I'm on the OCD side - and would rather have the image rather than a number.

...and I can guarantee you if we were offered a choice, people still wouldn't be happy - if we can choose the icon, can we not also choose which colour, and lets have the % to 0.1%, or allow it to go down/up in 5% increments, or can have it beep every drop in 10%, or have unicorn animoji in the widgets read the %..... As the old saying goes, you can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. We are a demanding bunch.

No, actually. When we had the choice, nobody asked for those other things.
 
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What its distracting? You got to be kidding me.

Yup, I find a constant change in that area if the screen distracting. Apple obviously believes there are more users and not just myself, hence the option is there. No kidding.
 
Yup, I find a constant change in that area if the screen distracting. Apple obviously believes there are more users and not just myself, hence the option is there. No kidding.
So I guess you will hate the time stamp too right cause it is constantly changing.....
 
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They should at least offer the optiom to have the battery % instead of the battery bar. They offered the ability to offer the % remaining or not, so why not just the percentage remaining for those who wan it.
 
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Welcome to the super convenient world of Face ID people. As I said in another post, the convenience you think Face ID has over TID is lost when you have to keep swiping down from the top right every time you want to know how much battery you have left. So what you gain in FID access, you lose with this major flaw.

I will state it here now, people rocking an 8 or 8 Plus are finding things a lot more convenient than the piece of beta garbage everyone else got. A LOT MORE CONVENIENT.

Hopefully an ios update or the XI solves this propblem. But it goes to show, those running the smartphone division at Apple have lost touch with their customers (or should I say their fanbase).
 
I am actually enjoying not seeing the percentage. I have obsessed over the number for years. Having the number absent is allowing me to just use the phone and enjoy it. I agree though that they should at least offer the option, as everyone has different wants/needs.
 
Yup, I find a constant change in that area if the screen distracting. Apple obviously believes there are more users and not just myself, hence the option is there. No kidding.

If you find that distracting, you might want to get checked out by a doctor.
 
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