An alternative would've been to have Apple more strongly stand behind its "beliefs" instead of favoring a company like Google which has business practices they claim to be opposed to, and continue helping that company maintain or increase its dominance in search.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Gets 36% of Google's Safari Search Revenue
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
An alternative would've been to have Apple more strongly stand behind its "beliefs" instead of favoring a company like Google which has business practices they claim to be opposed to, and continue helping that company maintain or increase its dominance in search.
The idea that you are "completely unharmed" by companies building profiles on you is obviously wrong. It leads to stuff like this:
That “article” is full of hyperbole. No amount of money from MS to Apple will instantly change the fact that Bing is a loser compared to Google for search.If it's not a bribe, then what do you call it when Alphabet/Google pays Apple to not develop their own search engine that would compete with Google?
Google Is Paying Apple a Lot of Money Not to Build a Search Engine. Why It's Just Not Worth It
The money Apple gets isn't worth the conflict with its values.www.inc.com
And this isn’t a market that Apple has to enter either. Why should it?
Two separate matters. Whatever money Apple receives from Google has nothing to do with whether services like TV+ are profitable or not.
Sadly, Tim Cook took over $700m from China for pushing the CCP as a nice great thing and China as a great country; now that’s corruption. That to me is Treason.
I’d like to be able to choose ChatGPT instead of Google. And in Siri too please.
There is nothing different from going to google.com and doing the search yourself.
Google can't get anymore info than what you send through HTTP requests.
If it's not a bribe, then what do you call it when Alphabet/Google pays Apple to not develop their own search engine that would compete with Google?
Google Is Paying Apple a Lot of Money Not to Build a Search Engine. Why It's Just Not Worth It
The money Apple gets isn't worth the conflict with its values.
Unless the contract forbids Apple to build a search engine it's just a contract about revenue sharing.
Bribery implies that Google is paying Apple do something illegal which isn't the case here.
No, because sending search queries to Google isn't a privacy problem. It's the same as going to google.com manually.
It's something the user does voluntarily.
That's not a bribe and it's not illegal per se. The contract doesn't forbid Apple making a search engine at all.
BTW, do you really want Apple to make a search engine!?
I'm actually surprised a payment of this magnitude doesn't have to be specifically identified on Apple's financial reports. The issue here is known as Customer Concentration risk - if there are individual "customers" that can swing the company's revenue by a big %, there is a substantial risk if they stop buying, go bankrupt, etc and that huge income stream goes away.
This kind of deal has apparently been exposing shareholders to a risk for quite some time, but they couldn't have known it. Endling this deal (voluntarily or involuntarily) could indeed cause a lot of consequences in the market.
If this deal has stopped Apple from making their own search engine, it's good for consumers.
It certainly is.
GDPR is concerned about personal information which can be tied to specific physical persons.
Counting how many search request hitting Google servers isn't any such things.
This is not a privacy issue.
When you search on an iPhone it sends HTTP requests to Google with the search term. It's the same as you going to Google.com in Safari and entering a search term manually.
Discouraging competition is almost never in the interest of consumers.
They are not selling you. They're sending HTTP requests to google.com with your search term. Just a standard HTTP request.
It's the same which happens when you go into Safari, visit google.com and search manually.
It's a business contract which contains revenue sharing in exchange for a service. Common in many businesses.
It's a business contract which contains revenue sharing in exchange for a service. Common in many businesses.
No, they aren't selling any data.
Do you know what happens when you search using a search engine?
Last edited:
The point is that Google generates revenue from searches through business practices Apple openly criticizes as compromising of the user's privacy, but on the other side Apple is willing to drive searches to Google in exchange of a share of said revenue.