Wouldn’t a recall be limited to safety issues?No, because there's no numbers attached. If it was widespread it should involve a full recall, not a repair program.
Wouldn’t a recall be limited to safety issues?No, because there's no numbers attached. If it was widespread it should involve a full recall, not a repair program.
And? Forums are always full of people complaining about this or that issue. The vocal minority doesn’t represent all users.
Are there issues? Obviously. That’s all we know - that people are having issues. Beyond that we know absolutely nothing about the severity.
Must be US only. Razer’s UK support is utterly dreadful.
The ONLY real, non-anecdotal evidence we have is Apple saying there's an issue, and owning up to it by offering to fix it for free, for a limited time, after 3 lawsuits.
Given that, (the lack of non-anecdotal evidence) owners saying they don't have the problem or that it is representative of a minority of users is LESS credible than those who say they DO have a problem and/or it is happening to a majority of users.
The whole "it's only happening to few users" trope is the conjecture here, unless numbers are released and turns said conjecture into fact.
The few times I’ve reached out to Apples support they’ve been very professional and polite; always solved my issues.
Wow... Just a week ago I was on with Apple support and the guy couldn't even figure out which country I was in... This after I provided my account info... nor was he able to provide any actual help. I was put on hold repeatedly. Once for upwards of 10-15 minutes. At the end, he provided a web address to Apple's support site for my country because he didn't know the out of warranty cost for the product.
But sure, best-in-class.![]()
I can do that too
Just because one person had a bad experience
Seriously, you might have had a bad one, might work to call again, nothing is 100%.
What does this have to do with tech support?
And it may be good hardware, but I am not touching it's software (Windows)
Wow... Just a week ago I was on with Apple support and the guy couldn't even figure out which country I was in... This after I provided my account info... nor was he able to provide any actual help. I was put on hold repeatedly. Once for upwards of 10-15 minutes. At the end, he provided a web address to Apple's support site for my country because he didn't know the out of warranty cost for the product.
But sure, best-in-class.![]()
They're widespread enough that Apple acknowleged it and initiated a repair program for them.
Shouldn't that be enough evidence to put the debate to rest?
What’s a small number? Is 3 million a small number? Or is it rather large...The ONLY real, non-anecdotal evidence we have is Apple saying there's an issue, and owning up to it by offering to fix it for free, for a limited time, after 3 lawsuits.
Given that, (the lack of non-anecdotal evidence) owners saying they don't have the problem or that it is representative of a minority of users is LESS credible than those who say they DO have a problem and/or it is happening to a majority of users.
The whole "it's only happening to few users" trope is the conjecture here, unless numbers are released and turns said conjecture into fact.
Customer since 1993 here. Support has always been flawless. I live in Italy.
Apple is the only company that I actually don’t mind talking to on the phone. But recently I’ve found it handy to use Messages to chat with them about smaller issues. Hope more companies continue to do the text messaging support thing.
It’s nice to just send the text and not wait around for the response. Better than online chat where you’ll get disconnected if you don’t respond right away.I agree. And that’s the world we live in now, where we can resolve smaller issues through text or instant messaging on the computer, it can be faster minus the hold times and usually their support hours is longer with chatting online versus their phone hours. Also, I also like Amazon‘s customer service, especially if you’re a Prime member, they do seem to treat you with more prestige. (You can even select to have Amazon call you through the App, which you can have a representative reached immediately.)
Dell doesn't deserve to be in the top 100.