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well then, I am too reading too much into it.

If my company gave me a free bag ontop of a bonus, the only complaint I should have is where's the free stuff to fill that bag (I'm kidding!).

I think that it's an important distinction that has to be made, that wasn't clearly made in this article (unless it's been updated since i read it). The article makes it sound like this is the christmas bonus for the retail employees.

as a christmas bonus it sucks. As a token gesture gift, ontop of a bonus, it's fantastic.

context is everything

Thing is they do not get a bonus. All they get are token gift. We had a few people chime in on this and tell us that. People who work Apple retail.
 
What you said makes zero sense. Logic fail. Do I need to make a Venn diagram for you? ProctEr and Gamble products are sold in every supermarket, convenience store, Amazon, in countries WalMart doesn't exist,etc. etc. By sheer number of outlets that sell P&G products, Walmart could sell 1% of them and be the largest seller.

P.S. Lesson 2: spelling is not grammar. It's an indication of how well you pay attention, learn and maintain information. You fail. At math, logic AND spelling

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I'm 50. I've never known anyone to get anything close to a gift/bonus like that, let alone EVERY employee of a single huge company. Ok, maybe a tiny 10 person company might get something like that. You are being ridiculous. Good news is, having Apple on one's resume practically ensures an easy job search if one feels their holiday gift isn't big enough for them.

Gimme a break. You don't run business like a binary computer. Whatever happened to "Implied Logic"?

What I am saying is there are umpteen companies making products that are *crucial* to our daily lives, P&G, Gillette,Johnson & Johnson and yes Wal Mart too!. But that doesn't make them Apple!

Duh!
 
Thing is they do not get a bonus. All they get are token gift. We had a few people chime in on this and tell us that. People who work Apple retail.

Yeah it sucks for that guy who stands just inside the door and just points me to some other Apple store employee to get help. His job is rough! He deserves a 10k bonus! Sorry but I worked at Pier One for a while and never got anything. Even had to pay if I wanted something slightly broken that was going into the trash, I assume so people wouldn't break stuff on purpose. But still, no deep discount.
 
Yeah it sucks for that guy who stands by the door and just points me to some other Apple store employee to get help. His job is rough! He deserves a 10k bonus!

where are you pulling a 10k bonus out of your ass from?

Nobody has ever said that All bonuses to all employees must be exactly the same. Clearly, there could be a logical application of that money passed down through proper budgeting in order to give more (or less) depending on performance, seniority and job expectations.

Seriously, are you 16 and just started learning business 101? nobody does flat bonuses for every employee. that would just be asanine

However.. if Apple took just 5% of their net profits from 2014 (not even revenues, but profits), they would be able to pass down nearly 2 billion dollars to distribute amongst employees as a bonus. sure, your net profit for the year will only be 37billion instead of 39 billion, but hey, you know, those share holders are the important people to please. who cares about the employees

your crappy experiences working at Pier One doesn't mean everyone else is required to have a crappy experience too
 
Gimme a break. You don't run business like a binary computer. Whatever happened to "Implied Logic"?

What I am saying is there are umpteen companies making products that are *crucial* to our daily lives, P&G, Gillette,Johnson & Johnson and yes Wal Mart too!. But that doesn't make them Apple!

Duh!

Still don't know what your point is. MY point was that P&G is as large and almost as profitable as Apple and they didn't hand out big gifts to every employee either. Simple. And none of those companies sell things that are "crucial" to our lives. They are all luxuries.
 
Yeah it sucks for that guy who stands just inside the door and just points me to some other Apple store employee to get help. His job is rough! He deserves a 10k bonus! Sorry but I worked at Pier One for a while and never got anything. Even had to pay if I wanted something slightly broken that was going into the trash, I assume so people wouldn't break stuff on purpose. But still, no deep discount.

as covered before........ it is 10k per employee is the break down. That DOES NOT mean each employee gets 10k

One option is you base it pay role. Lets say that 10k works out to be 10% of payroll.
You give them 10% bonus......
You break it down in some way. .....

Is that to complex for you to understand?
 
where are you pulling a 10k bonus out of your ass from?

Nobody has ever said that All bonuses to all employees must be exactly the same. Clearly, there could be a logical application of that money passed down through proper budgeting in order to give more (or less) depending on performance, seniority and job expectations.

Seriously, are you 16 and just started learning business 101? nobody does flat bonuses for every employee. that would just be asanine

However.. if Apple took just 5% of their net profits from 2014 (not even revenues, but profits), they would be able to pass down nearly 2 billion dollars to distribute amongst employees as a bonus. sure, your net profit for the year will only be 37billion instead of 39 billion, but hey, you know, those share holders are the important people to please. who cares about the employees

your crappy experiences working at Pier One doesn't mean everyone else is required to have a crappy experience too

No, I am 50, have worked for large companies, now own my own company as a freelancer and I'm one of those Apple shareholders thank you very much. You can talk about how generous YOU would be if YOU owned a company all you want. Still a fantasy. A worker's compensation is comprised of a plethora a possible things. Some people get bonuses based on their income and the profit for that year and little else. Other people get benefits all throughout the year like free advanced education, paid family leave, better health insurance, flexible work hours, telecommuting, advancement opportunities, etc. You can't look at one benefit and say the entire benefits package is crap. If the employees didn't feel well compensated they wouldn't work there and will have a relatively easy time finding work somewhere else. Maybe an internet startup that throws them lots of money and perks during the boom and then goes out of business in a couple years. It's very simple.
 
Still don't know what your point is. MY point was that P&G is as large and almost as profitable as Apple and they didn't hand out big gifts to every employee either. Simple. And none of those companies sell things that are "crucial" to our lives. They are all luxuries.

and so it should be acceptable? You mean you are for pay cuts and reduced benefits?
You are all for the stock holder worship?

We have been getting stuff reduce every year for a long time. Pay raises are near historic lows, benefits are being cut left and right. Bonus have been cut. Thing have been on a downward trend for a long time across the board. That is unless you are the all might stock holder and should be worshipped.

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No, I am 50, have worked for large companies, now own my own company as a freelancer and I'm one of those Apple shareholders thank you very much. You can talk about how generous YOU would be if YOU owned a company all you want. Still a fantasy. A worker's compensation is comprised of a plethora a possible things. Some people get bonuses based on their income and the profit for that year and little else. Other people get benefits all throughout the year like free advanced education, paid family leave, better health insurance, flexible work hours, telecommuting, etc. You can't look at one benefit and say the entire benefits package is crap. If the employees didn't feel well compensated they wouldn't work there and will have a relatively easy time finding somewhere else. Maybe an internet startup that throws them lots of money and perks during the boom and then goes out of business in a couple years. It's very simple.


If you have been in industry for 50 years as you so claim. Then you would have to agree things have been getting worse for people not better.
You can not argue that pay raise have been shrinking, or things like bonuses have been getting reduced.
 
and so it should be acceptable? You mean you are for pay cuts and reduced benefits?
You are all for the stock holder worship?

We have been getting stuff reduce every year for a long time. Pay raises are near historic lows, benefits are being cut left and right. Bonus have been cut. Thing have been on a downward trend for a long time across the board. That is unless you are the all might stock holder and should be worshipped.

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If you have been in industry for 50 years as you so claim. Then you would have to agree things have been getting worse for people not better.
You can not argue that pay raise have been shrinking, or things like bonuses have been getting reduced.

And still none of that has any relationship to this company holiday gift.
 
and so it should be acceptable? You mean you are for pay cuts and reduced benefits?
You are all for the stock holder worship?

We have been getting stuff reduce every year for a long time. Pay raises are near historic lows, benefits are being cut left and right. Bonus have been cut. Thing have been on a downward trend for a long time across the board. That is unless you are the all might stock holder and should be worshipped.

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If you have been in industry for 50 years as you so claim. Then you would have to agree things have been getting worse for people not better.
You can not argue that pay raise have been shrinking, or things like bonuses have been getting reduced.

No, I am 50 years old. Been working for about 25 years. Read more carefully. I worked for P&G in the late 80s and only got a gift box for my holiday gift. No bonus. How far back do we actually have to go to pine about the good old days of big holiday bonuses, lol? '60s? Maybe you watched too many Mad Men episodes.

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as covered before........ it is 10k per employee is the break down. That DOES NOT mean each employee gets 10k

One option is you base it pay role. Lets say that 10k works out to be 10% of payroll.
You give them 10% bonus......
You break it down in some way. .....

Is that to complex for you to understand?

Not at all. It's just unrealistic. I worked three years for an insurance and financial services company in the late '90s that had a yearly kind of profit-sharing thing and made a big deal of the announcement. oooh, what's going to be the PSP number this year? Whatever percent it was would be a percentage of our income put directly into our 401k, not direct to us to spend on whatever. The PSP number was never 10% when I was there. A good number was more like 5%-7%. A bad year might be 3%. No big office party for the holidays but we did do a secret santa amongst ourselves with a $20 limit. whee! Guess that's better in your eyes? We appreciated the money into our 401k but it didn't change our lives and I have yet to enjoy whatever I got. Before I worked for P&G I worked for a large chemical company. We got nothing for the holidays but if we went for a certain length of time without anyone injuring themselves we all got a gift, like an emergency radio or a little fire extinguisher for the kitchen. How about that?
 
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