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Personally, I believe that television has a lot to be desired, but mostly in terms of the crappy deals that are forced down our throats by cable providers. If Apple can give various stations good enough deals, that could change. Most people I know of would pay for stations like USA, ABC and Syfy which actually have shows on there worth watching. Even if Apple only convinced those three stations to switch to an al a cart business model, it would be a start. There are a lot of less popular stations who would naturally not be okay with such a deal, but them's the breaks.
 
But Apple customers might buy a new set every 2 years like they do with the iPhone. If it is a big enough change, they will buy every year. The bottom line is the Apple consumer cares more about Apple than they do about themselves. Even if the technology is a generation or two behind, people will buy it because it just works. People who want the latest tech will buy a Windows or Android TV.

I know quite a few people who just bought the iPhone 4 because it was $100 rather than the iPhone 4S for $200

Now imagine if it was a $1500 TV set... that's quite a lot!
 
I know quite a few people who just bought the iPhone 4 because it was $100 rather than the iPhone 4S for $200

Now imagine if it was a $1500 TV set... that's quite a lot!

But I think that Apple will be targeting the upper end of their market for the tv. The people who buy the Macbooks and already have an iPhone or iPad.
 
But I think that Apple will be targeting the upper end of their market for the tv. The people who buy the Macbooks and already have an iPhone or iPad.

Yeah that sounds about right.

But I hope they still offer an add-on box like the current AppleTV for everyone else. :)
 
Yeah that sounds about right.

But I hope they still offer an add-on box like the current AppleTV for everyone else. :)

I just don't see them trying to compete on price with Sony and Samsung, let alone the second tier brands that make up a big part of the market.
 
Personally I just don't see it selling in large quantities. It's just a TV. Oh sure it will appeal to those who buy things to impress others, but at the end of the day, I don't see its mass appeal.

For gimmick lovers yes, for those who already have elaborate home theaters, I cannot imagine them replacing their high end displays with an Apple TV. It's a different crowd.
 
Everyone is concentrating on content. Maybe it is simply new technology equipment, stylish and easy to use. At least to start with. At some point Apple may make deals to deliver ala carte content, but what is stopping DirecTv from doing the same thing (and doing it in real time from space and not on phone lines whenever!).
 
Hopefully it will be something way better than this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_TV

The TV normally has the following 3 elements:
1- The hardware/display
2- The signal/inputs
3- The content

Cable is still with a business model form the 80-90s.

Some of the disruptive tech business out there are:
Netflix has not been successful to continue innovating, and some of the content is not always available.
And Hulu Plus due to their constant annoying ads is not the best thing out there.
Crackle is free but still lacks content (only Seinfeld and the 3 Stooges are worth it).

Maybe if Apple buys some of these will be able to provide some improved experience for a real all you want to watch that doesn't suck with Ads.
 
Slot loading blu ray drive wouldn't go astray.

Very anti-Apple. They are more likely to push the studios and networks to creating a digital format that falls somewhere in between the current 720p and a true Blu-ray (in terms of bit rate etc). Exclusive to the iTunes store of course. With disk like special features, assistive visual audio, subtitles etc. Not unlike the Avatar Extras being released this week.

Add to this some kind of revamp of the iOS flavor on the little black box and iPad so it can play the files and iTunes is once again winning. Particularly if the talk of higher storage and 1080p (and better backlit) displays on the iPad 3 are true

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Personally I just don't see it selling in large quantities. It's just a TV.


Personally I don't buy the rumors that they are making a TV. I think it will be another little black box.

Now what I think they might do perhaps is do a 36-40" cinema display for the line up which would be capable of use as a computer display or an Apple TV display and maybe they might put the 'black box' directly inside said unit, but no coaxial etc that would require licensing of tv tech from the likes of Samsung etc.

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maybe its just me but talking bothers me more than using the remote

I don't think they will go for voice control so much as if you have an iPhone 4s you will be able to use Siri with a revamped remote app.

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- Small ATV sized unit that streams content from the internet, this means it is not relying on region/country specific connections etc Content is delivered all around the world at the same time and on demand.

Networks and Studios will likely never go for that.At least not the 'around the world at the same time' part.

And they have the power.
 
Eddy take a cue, don't tell Les Moonves unless you want it out there faster than you can say "Chenbot"
 
I still think its odd and outside of Apple zone to start producing HD TV sets. Doesn't make sense. If anything more of a serious content availability for Apple/iTunes customers.

That's the best part, we still have no clue about what it is and how it works. Guessing game it is.
 
Retread technology

None of that sounds appealing. A new way to switch channels is pretty boring stuff.

Then again, TV itself is boring. The revolutionary change would be to give people something to watch other than the last crap sitcom from NBC or whoever.

Agreed. Slight improvements in tech don't mean much to me, either.
 
Because I like guessing

Oh boy... what will MisterK predict tonight?! (more of what I'd like more than what Apple might do, of course0

Here goes:
- "Receiver" killed so you just Airplay to speakers if you want them (Apple may sell these separately). No more speaker wire.
- Two cameras on the front so you can FaceTime but also Kinect style control the...
- Apps. Of course. A few included (like Netflix which Apple should buy up at a bargain price and improve, HBO, ... how much fun would Flipboard be Kinect style? And games.... oooooh, the games. APIs for controlling via ANYTHING. iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad, 3rd party controllers, motion control, or...
- Voice. As everyone is predicting. Me "I want to watch Harry Potter". Siri "Here are all the Harry Potter movies. Which would you like to watch?". Me "Actually, I want to watch something about robots instead". Siri "Here's a bunch of robot stuff from iTunes, Youtube, Netflix, and the Web".
- A bunch of apps that no one has really thought of or implemented well yet. Motion sensing security camera maybe? Send friends birthday telegrams to their Apple Televisions? Play along with live (network?) TV shows? Jeopardy would be fun. Maybe a new breed of gameshows where you can enter in a ballot and possibly get picked to be a live contestant, streaming your video live from your living room (I know.. it could get a little Chatroulette). Keep an eye on your pets. Party karaoke/iTunes DJ/visualizer. Magic mirror app for kids. Family bulletin board.
-Some sort of super innovating/easy DYI mounting system for those who want to wall mount. Apple doesn't like selling you anything that someone else would need to setup, but flat screens look about 100x better hanging on the wall (with wires hidden).

It wouldn't be the end all solution for everyone, but for SOME, it might replace their receiver, game system, TV, video player, home phone... and there's some cool stuff that a PROPER web connected TV with SIRI, motion, cameras, and apps can only do. And some people will say their horrible old web TV with a Youtube menu item beat Apple to it.
 
Personally I just don't see it selling in large quantities. It's just a TV. Oh sure it will appeal to those who buy things to impress others, but at the end of the day, I don't see its mass appeal.

For gimmick lovers yes, for those who already have elaborate home theaters, I cannot imagine them replacing their high end displays with an Apple TV. It's a different crowd.

These are the very people who would buy into a new and better technology. Not sure you you can say they buy this stuff to impress others. And most of them are not into gimmicks. The highest of high end systems have no gimmicks at all!. Most people simply buy the best things they can afford.

If the Apple TV is indeed a beautiful, easy to operate and obviously better system then lots of people will go into debt to buy it.
 
Am I the only one that doesn't want to speak to my TV? I like voice control on a phone, because I can do simple tasks while driving. But on a TV I feel like I would have to talk very loud or sit very close to the TV. Unless I am speaking in to a remote- and I think the general idea is to ditch the remote with the Apple TV. I'd rather just use my phone as a remote. Type in what I want to watch, etc. Sometimes I have to watch TV with the headphones on because I don't want to disturb others and having to speak to the TV would mess that up too.

Just my two cents, I am really psyched to see what they are going to do. I'm really hoping they hammer out some kind of deal with actual networks. I think I speak for millions of people when I say we are sick of having to purchase bundled cable packages when we only want a few select channels. A la cart programming needs to happen sooner or later.


My friend I think your worries of "having to speak loudly and sit close to the tv" are silly. Leave it to Apple to make sure your TV is the most user friendly and most comfortable TV you have ever seen. Hope I'm right:)

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This is already possible through Netflix. Just today I was watching a video on my iPad, came home, and continued streaming it via my Xbox 360. It's a great idea, and I'm all for Apple taking a crack at it, but I'm nor sure how Apple is going to do it better than Netflix already does...

Cuz Netflix isn't free and it basically sucks? --- thats one way
 
this will not just be hardware, it will be a user experience which goes beyond what most ppl have problems with (already have a tv, i don't like talking to my tv, i don't etc...) remember, full user experience with apple wanting to control each end, not just one (tv hardware).
 
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I love how Apple mastered the basics:

With the iPod,nobody could compete.
With iTunes, nobody could compete.
With iPhone, nobody could compete.
With iPad, nobody could compete.
With Appletv, nobody will be able to
compete.

Let's be honest, Apple has all of its competitors chasing their tails. How do we compete with gaming, ultra books, iPads, music, mapping, etc.

Sony, Samsung, Dell, HP and Research in Motion don't know where to begin. Apple is skating to where the puck is going!
 
Cuz Netflix isn't free and it basically sucks? --- thats one way

Nothing's free. Netflix is pretty cheap though, and it's so damn convenient, I don't really understand how you can say it sucks. For 8 bucks a month you get unlimited streaming to any movie-streaming-capable devices in your house that supports it! I don't really get how it can get better than that. Their iPhone app does suck though, but the service itself is great. Perhaps you didn't use netflix long enough to get a really good impression of it, I find that's often people's glitch.
 
I think it'll just be an Apple TV with a monitor on it. Comes in 3 sizes 36, 42, 50inch with all apple branding. It should sell about $200-$300 above comparable high end televisions.

Unless it has a retina display or ultra high resolution, I couldn't justify paying Apple prices on tvs.
 
I got it!

All it's going to be is a really big iPad that you can touch, talk to, watch stuff on and interact with. No big deal.

Just like the iPad is a really big iPhone that can't make phone calls.
 
Well, the question needs to be answered.....with what apple wants to accomplish, can it simply be done with a seperate set top box device like the AppleTV they currently offer???

I can't help but feel this is dumb, and it will be way too expensive for it's features. #1 I prefer plasma over LED, and since the panel is rumored to be made by sharp, it is no doubt going to be an LED. #2 main concern: does apple have the balls to charge $500 for HDMI connectivity??? Maybe....
 
as long as it can automatically bring the volume level of advertisements down to be the same as the shows, it will be awesome.

Been there. It's now a reality :

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/ente...rns-volume-down-blaring-tv-commercials/46146/

"The Federal Communications Commission is bound to get good reviews today after it voted to require cable operators and TV stations to keep TV commercials from being louder than the programs during which they air. The FCC made the unanimous ruling at a monthly meeting today, acting on the recommendation of Congress which last year passed the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act"
 
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