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Apple Granted Access to Unreleased Samsung Hardware in Patent Suit

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I think if I was Samsung, I would be giving Apple the crappiest most half finished prototypes I could find.
 
dwd3885 said:
idk. I have a Nexus S and it has NFC. Don't see an Apple product with that. Sure, I agree that Touchwiz is an iOS clone. Samsung should HOPE that Apple wins at least that part, because Touchwiz STINKS
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Sigh...NFC is NOT part of the trade marks and trade dress infringement claims by Apple Inc.
 
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Lol at everyone crying about bullies. If you were in Apple's position you'd do the exact same thing. And if you didn't, your shareholders would hang you.
 
Once again people are picking sides based on personal likes or dislikes about products and companies. Sorry, but this is being decided by laws. Apple has a legal obligation to protect its intellectual property or else they lose it. The courts have to decide on the basis what the law says, not which phone the judge likes. Apple won this preliminary step because the law said they should. It is only a small step of a much larger legal picture. The judge just felt Apple's legal argument carried weight.

Now go back to your cheerleading one side or the other based on everything but the law.
 
...you people don't get it, do you?

This is the most brilliant win-win. Win: Apple can shut down Samsung if they find something they can sue for/argue with. Win: Apple sees ALL the design and engineering, so they can learn from the superior design ideas and laugh at the flaws and clumsy bits.

Brilliant, but evil.
 
and end result of this is that I expect nothing to be handed over as it will continue to get tied up in court. Also add to the fact that all Apple even get is mock up units. No hardware or software on them. Not like they can do much with that.
How many different designs are there for basically flat slab of different sizes.
 
Aduntu said:
What's the point in working hard to innovate if you're just going to let others blatantly copy your work without repercussion?
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The idea of a touchscreen computer with applications is about as innovative as a Lodsys patent. Just because Apple implements it the best so far, doesn't mean they own the whole concept.

Jobs didn't invent something inconceivable. He just did it better. Now, no one else is allowed to further improve the concept?? Look around you, cars, monitors, keyboards all look pretty much the same but are made by different companies. We live in a world of THEIVESSZZZ!!! :rolleyes:
 
Lesser Evets said:
...you people don't get it, do you?

This is the most brilliant win-win. Win: Apple can shut down Samsung if they find something they can sue for/argue with. Win: Apple sees ALL the design and engineering, so they can learn from the superior design ideas and laugh at the flaws and clumsy bits.

Brilliant, but evil.
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Most of the 'unreleased' Samsung hardwares have been released, just not in US.
 
linoox said:
Sigh...NFC is NOT part of the trade marks and trade dress infringement claims by Apple Inc.
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Sigh, i know it's not, but i was responding to the post that said Samsung is copying Apple, not to the entire lawsuit in question. NFC is not copying Apple, for example.
 
sciwizam said:
Galaxy S2, Infuse 4G, and Droid Charge are already in sale. S2 is available in Europe and Asia. Infuse 4G is out on AT&T and Droid Charge is out on Verizon LTE.

They gave out Galaxy Tab 10.1 to all of Google I/O conference attendees.

The only unreleased model is the Galaxy Tab 8.9, but that's just the 10.1 smaller in size and lighter in weight @ 1 lb.

And within the 30days Samsung has to comply, the Tab 10.1 is being released to the general public on June 8th.
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Welcome to the court system.
 
whooleytoo said:
That seems strangely generous to Apple - offering them access to unreleased Samsung products in case they might, maybe, infringe on Apple's patents/trademarks. That seems a little 'guilty until proven innocent' to me.

You can't really imagine anyone ordering Apple to hand over any of their unreleased products. In fact, one side-effect of this ruling might be that Apple may get even more obsessive about future product secrecy, thus giving competitors a potential chance to file for a preliminary injunction.
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Ah, but that is in fact what Apple does with Samsung. Samsung makes many of Apple's components, thus have "first look."
 
juicedropsdeuce said:
The idea of a touchscreen computer with applications is about as innovative as a Lodsys patent. Just because Apple implements it the best so far, doesn't mean they own the whole concept.

Jobs didn't invent something inconceivable. He just did it better. Now, no one else is allowed to further improve the concept?? Look around you, cars, monitors, keyboards all look pretty much the same but are made by different companies. We live is a world of THEIVESSZZZ!!! :rolleyes:
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Finally someone who gets it. If this lawsuit makes so much sense then wouldnt the LODSYS people have a case against the devs?
 
nunes013 said:
this... i was on the shuttle at my university a few weeks ago and there was a kid who had a device that looked the iphone. when i looked closer it was just a galaxy phone but a quick glance i couldnt tell the difference with the home button, and grid of icons. first manufacturers copy the ideas of Apple now the design of their products. there has only been a handful of innovative features that Apple hasnt deployed in there products that has been released these past few years.
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Seriously, how is a grid copying? Everything uses a grid (look at Windows XP or even 98 and icons are arranged in grids). Seriously, if it wasn't for the branding I would (and anyone would) have trouble differentiating some laptops (black plastic--is it an Acer, ASUS or MSI) they all look similar.

Home button is home button, not exactly something different.
 
I think the first galaxy tablet shipped 3 million and it isn't clear they sold all of those. It looks like version 2 is doing just as poorly.

I don't think the galaxy tablet is much of a threat to Apple really. Samsung will come around and realize they can make more money selling parts to Apple than trying to sell their own tablet. If their sales numbers don't convince them, then over time they will see the light as developers move away from android to more profitable markets and people leave the platform to get the better apps. Not to mention the growing malware threat to android.
 
Lesser Evets said:
...you people don't get it, do you?

This is the most brilliant win-win. Win: Apple can shut down Samsung if they find something they can sue for/argue with. Win: Apple sees ALL the design and engineering, so they can learn from the superior design ideas and laugh at the flaws and clumsy bits.

Brilliant, but evil.
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Dude, 4 of the 5 "unreleased" products are already on sale. And if you think anything can shutdown Samsung. LOL.
 
ten-oak-druid said:
I think the first galaxy tablet shipped 3 million and it isn't clear they sold all of those. It looks like version 2 is doing just as poorly.

I don't think the galaxy tablet is much of a threat to Apple really. Samsung will come around and realize they can make more money selling parts to Apple than trying to sell their own tablet. If their sales numbers don't convince them, then over time they will see the light as developers move away from android to more profitable markets and people leave the platform to get the better apps. Not to mention the growing malware threat to android.
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Yeah, it's sales are dismal, considering it won't be on sale till June 8th. :rolleyes:
 
nunes013 said:
this... i was on the shuttle at my university a few weeks ago and there was a kid who had a device that looked the iphone. when i looked closer it was just a galaxy phone but a quick glance i couldnt tell the difference with the home button, and grid of icons. first manufacturers copy the ideas of Apple now the design of their products. there has only been a handful of innovative features that Apple hasnt deployed in there products that has been released these past few years.
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At least the xoom has some originality. The galaxy tab is a blatant rip off of Apple's successful product. Samsung has no honor.
 
NebulaClash said:
Once again people are picking sides based on personal likes or dislikes about products and companies. Sorry, but this is being decided by laws. Apple has a legal obligation to protect its intellectual property or else they lose it. The courts have to decide on the basis what the law says, not which phone the judge likes. Apple won this preliminary step because the law said they should. It is only a small step of a much larger legal picture. The judge just felt Apple's legal argument carried weight.

Now go back to your cheerleading one side or the other based on everything but the law.
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Perfectly put. I think that the judge has made a fair judgement in this too.
 
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