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Apple Had Long Planned to Leave Macworld

Peace said:
IMHO. If there were no problems with Job's health he would do the responsible CEO thing and do an interview with a tech site. But he hasn't. Either he doesn't care that Apple stock is going down because of this news or he can't.
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Why would it be responsible for him to do an interview with a tech site. Steve Jobs is a little bit bigger than that. If he wanted to an interview he would do it on prime time TV (Larry King or something).

If Steve was sick it's debatable whether or not he would have to tell the board. But if he's healthy, he doesn't have to say anything.
 
DMann said:
http://www.andpop.com/article/12888

It was confirmed on December 12 that Steve would be giving the keynote address at Macworld 2009. Things went awry from there.
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the original poster asked for a link where APPLE said SJ would be there.... not some crappy blog posting a story based on some mysterious "source".

apple NEVER confirmed or even announced that Steve would be there.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Should have asked him about WWDC, too. Missed opportunity right there...
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WWDC isn't a tradeshow, and I think it's highly unlikely to be cancelled. It serves as an opportunity for Apple to reach out to developers, promote development, and attempt to improve the quality of software coming to Apple's platforms.

With that said, Apple may or may not continue to have keynote events at WWDCs, but I think it is likely that they will for two reasons. One, it increases attendance which helps with the aforementioned things. Two, Apple schedules WWDC itself, and it's not always at the same time every year, so Apple can schedule it to correspond with product launches.
 
Peace said:
IMHO. If there were no problems with Job's health he would do the responsible CEO thing and do an interview with a tech site. But he hasn't. Either he doesn't care that Apple stock is going down because of this news or he can't.
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How would that help at all?

People are speculating that he is leaving Apple based on NOTHING.

So what if he does an interview? What would change? They'd still be basing their stories on the same nothing it's based on now.
 
fribhey said:
the original poster asked for a link where APPLE said SJ would be there.... not some crappy blog posting a story based on some mysterious "source".

apple NEVER confirmed or even announced that Steve would be there.
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Not officially, Apple likely withheld officially announcing Steve's appearance until the disputes were ironed out, which apparently didn't happen.
 
What else did that drunk Apple employee say? Switching to Intel in a few years? Mac Mini coming soon for under a grand? iPhone rumor? Mac OS X Panther details?
 
DMann said:
Not to be picky, but if IDG was convinced prior to the dispute that Steve was giving the keynote, then he was likely planning on doing so.

http://www.businessweek.com/technol...will.html?campaign_id=rss_blog_byteoftheapple
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And what exactly was IDG going to think?

I mean, he'd done the keynote for the past decade plus.

But what IDG thinks is not necessarily the same as Apple's reality.

No where had anyone confirmed a Jobs appearance that ended up being cancelled. It was always a foregone conclusion and that's why people are surprised. That doesn't mean Apple ever had any intention of a Jobs keynote.
 
DavidLeblond said:
Yeah, IDG isn't owed by Apple so that is still not Apple saying Jobs was going to be there. Not to be picky or anything. ;)
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IDG isn't "owed" by Apple?

Indeed, Apple owes them nothing but fulfilling their commitment to participate in their show, not to be picky or anything.
 
Peace said:
IMHO. If there were no problems with Job's health he would do the responsible CEO thing and do an interview with a tech site. But he hasn't. Either he doesn't care that Apple stock is going down because of this news or he can't.
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For the same reason Apple doesn't follow the tech trend; because he doesn't have to. I loved MacWorld too (and was lucky enough to attend one) but this makes a lot of sense for them. Sure people's panties will get a bind and fanboys will cry, stocks might temporarily drop, but a month from now you won't even care. After all, WWDC probably isn't going anywhere, and there's always the random Apple events (like "Let's Rock", etc.). The Stevenote isn't gone.
 
Unspeaked said:
And what exactly was IDG going to think?

I mean, he'd done the keynote for the past decade plus.

But what IDG thinks is not necessarily the same as Apple's reality.

No where had anyone confirmed a Jobs appearance that ended up being cancelled. It was always a foregone conclusion and that's why people are surprised. That doesn't mean Apple ever had any intention of a Jobs keynote.
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Are you assuming that IDG merely assumed that Steve would be giving the keynote without expressing his intention in advance? Not so, Steve's intention to give a high profile keynote such as this was expressed well in advance.
 
DMann said:
Not officially, Apple likely withheld officially announcing Steve's appearance until the disputes were ironed out, which apparently didn't happen.
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based on what? your hunch? or maybe you have your own mysterious "source"?

maybe apple "likely" withheld officially announcing Steve's appearance because Steve was never going to appear.

stop trying to convince everyone that it was written in stone that Steve was going to be there and that the only reason why he's not is because of some "dispute".

maybe, just maybe, Steve never ever planned on going. why you can't except that possibility is beyond me.
 
fribhey said:
maybe, just maybe, Steve never ever planned on going. why you can't except that possibility is beyond me.
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"Except" the possibility? What does that mean?

I can accept the very likelihood that Steve expressed his intention to IDG to give the Keynote in advance, and decided not to do it. I do not consider Businessweek a mysterious source.
 
DMann said:
Are you assuming that IDG merely assumed that Steve would be giving the keynote without expressing his intention in advance? Not so, Steve's intention to give a high profile keynote such as this was expressed well in advance.
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so you are questioning someone else's assumption based on your own assumption?

IDG is in the business to make money and the amount of money that they make depends solely on apple. it's possible they knew all along that steve wouldn't be there but kept it on the down low so it wouldn't cause vendors to drop out or to keep ticket sales from dropping off. why would IDG say from the get go that steve wouldn't be there if it meant less money in their pockets?
 
ilfn143 said:
maybe psystar will have a booth there
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Caught me by surprise. Thanks for the chuckle.

Rudy Pedraza takes the stage in black turtleneck and jeans.

"We have some great news regarding our litigation efforts. No new hardware, just a lot of good lawyers lent to us from a fellow admirer."
 
DMann said:
"Except" the possibility? What does that mean?

I can accept the very likelihood that Steve expressed his intention to IDG to give the Keynote in advance, and decided not to do it. I do not consider Newsweek a mysterious source.
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so now the source is NewsWeek? the link i'm looking at says BusinessWeek, not NewsWeek....

and even that link is to a blog on BusinessWeek. anyone who cites a blog as a credible sources is a fool.
 
dopeytree said:
Awful thing to think or say but what would apple do if Steve say died or had a car crash etc?
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Move on? You can't have a company tied to one man. Phil Schiller would take over as C.E.O. and Jonathan Ive would have full control over the design of products without Steve to guide.

Simple as that.

Oh, and if Steve died, the people clamoring for an xMac would actually have a chance greater than 0% of it happening.
 
nick9191 said:
WWDC is not a trade show. It's a developer conference held by Apple. I doubt that will go, it is important for developers.
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Agreed.
But I think we might find out that a keynote speech from Steve could be his last there too.
I know we shouldn't speculate about his health, and I know that every source is all claiming that Apple is denying everything related to his health... but be honest, he looks in bad shape. If he were your dad, you would be concerned... I can't help feeling like that.
Also the major denials about his health.... one thing in politics: don't believe anything until it's officially denied. ;)

I also think that Apple is quite late in giving this statement, so close to MacWorld.
 
DMann said:
Are you assuming that IDG merely assumed that Steve would be giving the keynote without expressing his intention in advance? Not so, Steve's intention to give a high profile keynote such as this was expressed well in advance.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm assuming.

I don't see why that's so difficult to imagine. As far as IDG is concerned, why would Steve Jobs suddenly decide to not give a keynote speech at Macworld San Francisco?

Obviously there was no contractual obligation on Apple's part or else this wouldn't have happened.

The fact of the matter is no one can know for sure besides those inside Apple and IDG...
 
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