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Obviously the underlying issue is RAM. However, this is about whom Apple chooses to BLAME when its device becomes RAM starved. That's what I find underhanded.
 
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WilliamG said:
Obviously the underlying issue is RAM. However, this is about whom Apple chooses to BLAME when its device becomes RAM starved. That's what I find underhanded.
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98% of the time that Safari reloads abs on my iPhone 6, I do not see this message.

When I don't see this message during a reload, I assume it's because the page has been purged from memory due to low memory and OS memory management. This happens more often than I would like.

But I've no reason to believe that the other 2% of the time, when I see the message, that the page is reloading for exactly the same reason, and the idea that Apple are trying to cover up this 2% is too hard for me to believe. Instead, what I think is that Safari is otherwise buggy and didn't properly load or render the page properly. I'd like to see this happen less too!

Could you elaborate on your reasons for thinking Apple use this message to cover up memory management problems?
 
snappyfool said:
98% of the time that Safari reloads abs on my iPhone 6, I do not see this message.

When I don't see this message during a reload, I assume it's because the page has been purged from memory due to low memory and OS memory management. This happens more often than I would like.

But I've no reason to believe that the other 2% of the time, when I see the message, that the page is reloading for exactly the same reason, and the idea that Apple are trying to cover up this 2% is too hard for me to believe. Instead, what I think is that Safari is otherwise buggy and didn't properly load or render the page properly. I'd like to see this happen less too!

Could you elaborate on your reasons for thinking Apple use this message to cover up memory management problems?
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It's just one of numerous issues on my iPhone 6 Plus, which has 1GB RAM. I don't see this issue on my iPad Air 2, which has 2GB RAM.
 
WilliamG said:
It's just one of numerous issues on my iPhone 6 Plus, which has 1GB RAM. I don't see this issue on my iPad Air 2, which has 2GB RAM.
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Ok, you may be on to something, although there are other differences between the two devices and the two versions of Safari that these devices run.
 
snappyfool said:
Ok, you may be on to something, although there are other differences between the two devices and the two versions of Safari that these devices run.
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Absolutely, but I'm going to assume RAM is the biggest issue, here. It's likely the reason why Spotlight stopped working (prior to 8.1.3) randomly, and probably why now that it's fixed (probably Apple allocating whatever RAM to it) it means our iOS devices are *probably* even more hamstrung now.

You'll likely see when the new iOS devices come out this winter that iPhone 6/6 Plus will continue to struggle, but magically those new devices with 2GB RAM will have no trouble at all..
 
CONFIRMATION BIAS is what the majority of this thread is.

Sorry, but after reading, "that's probably why Spotlight stopped working," you pretty much solidified that fact.
 
I never run into problems with Safari on my iPhone 5. In fact, I just got done trying chrome and opera only to find them have problems. I do maintenance on my phone and make sure I have plenty of ram available. I delete unused apps abs put pics on Flickr for storage. You can manage the space you have.
 
rocat1997 said:
I never run into problems with Safari on my iPhone 5. In fact, I just got done trying chrome and opera only to find them have problems. I do maintenance on my phone and make sure I have plenty of ram available. I delete unused apps abs put pics on Flickr for storage. You can manage the space you have.
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The iPhone 5 is 32bit and uses less RAM even than the 5S. It also uses way less RAM than the 6+, which is the most RAM-hungry of all the 1GB iPhones. Your iPhone 5 reloads browser tabs and apps the least out of the 5/5S/6/6+
 
I've started getting that since iOS 8, but only on certain sites, but I don't think it's RAM because my iPad 3 does it when only running Safari and it has 1GB of RAM and only a 32-bit system. It never did it in iOS 7 or earlier.
 
an apple has seeds :p

I feel you! But, this is normal apple operating procedure. Blame the user not the device.
 
iPhone users have it so well, they have to look for things to complain about. I don't bother with ifunny anymore, I just read through this forum.
 
Traverse said:
I've started getting that since iOS 8, but only on certain sites, but I don't think it's RAM because my iPad 3 does it when only running Safari and it has 1GB of RAM and only a 32-bit system. It never did it in iOS 7 or earlier.
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I get it all the time now that I updated my iPad minis to iOS 8.

Worse, sometimes Safari really overflows something, and it crashes back to a blank Homepage... with no icons... for about ten seconds, then reloads the app icons and pops up a "No SIM installed" alert.

It's like it does a mini reboot.

I'm really sorry that I did the update ( I wanted a third party keyboard that shifted the key legends between upper/loser case. Stock iOS is so primitive in this respect.)
 
kdarling said:
I get it all the time now that I updated my iPad minis to iOS 8.

Worse, sometimes Safari really overflows something, and it crashes back to a blank Homepage... with no icons... for about ten seconds, then reloads the app icons and pops up a "No SIM installed" alert.

It's like it does a mini reboot.

I'm really sorry that I did the update ( I wanted a third party keyboard that shifted the key legends between upper/loser case. Stock iOS is so primitive in this respect.)
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I regret it too. My iPad 3 got so much slower going from iOS 7 -> iOS 8 that it did when jumping from iOS 6 to iOS 7.

I can NEVER delete from Reading List! All I get is "Bookmarks are syncing" EVERY SINGLE TIME! :mad:
 
Really glad a parent's iPad 3 is on 6.1 still and jailbroken so it will never be updated accidentally or otherwise. I was skeptical of iOS 7 performance on it, I'll bet iOS 8 is a complete dog. It's a buggy OS coupled with bad legacy support.

I was playing with the device over holidays and it was really fast! Makes me kind of miss iPhone 5 on 6.1

That might have been the quickest device/software combo ever for my uses.
 
at least you get a message. my page simply stays blank and if u try to go to another page it stays blank and the URL goes away in the address bar so I cannot even try to refresh. always have to quit safari a few times for it to start working again
 
davidb8 said:
Even with only 1 tab and browsing the most basic websites I always get this message! Especially on iPad mini 2! Not so much on 6+ but it is very often.

Take it to the apple store and they tell you "it's a limitation of the device".
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Agreed! The overhead of the larger iPad screen is clearly consuming more memory.
 
WilliamG said:
This is not a thread about RAM. It's a thread about how ridiculous it is that Apple actually blames the web pages when the device runs out of RAM. I've had really, really simple pages give this error, and it's pretty much a daily occurrence when I browse for extended periods of time on my 6 Plus.
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The message has nothing to do with running out of RAM. iOS has advanced memory management; when it purges old data it will just reload the tab, not display that error. That means the tab crashed and needed to be loaded again. Two very different issues.
 
WilliamG said:
Obviously the underlying issue is RAM. However, this is about whom Apple chooses to BLAME when its device becomes RAM starved. That's what I find underhanded.
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text: "the web page has encountered a problem and needs to be reloaded" does not imply the problem is with page itself. It is completely general.

Besides how you judge that: if the page contains thousands of scrips images and opening t uses 500 MB of ram is this a problem with the page or and iPhone? I guess the page. What if it's 400MB, 300MB, 200MB, 100MB, 50MB,20 MB,5 MB, 500 kB ?
 
CheesePuff said:
The message has nothing to do with running out of RAM. iOS has advanced memory management; when it purges old data it will just reload the tab, not display that error. That means the tab crashed and needed to be loaded again. Two very different issues.
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Then why does every other tab also reload after this message?
 
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