Apple Has Outright Ownership of Nortel's LTE (4G) Patents?

[squirrellydw]

Your post is pure exaggeration and plain old ignorant FUD.
There's so much BS in your post it could fertilize all the farms in the midwest.

If you're going to give percentages I suggest you provide facts and sources to back them up.

Actually it is pretty accurate, open your eyes and use the search bar. You will be surprised what you learn when you educate yourself or are you the lazy type and want everyone to do your work for you?

 

[swagi]

how is the hardware lower grade? iphone 4 had the fastest CPU/GPU in mobile when it came out. the A5 CPU is a screamer on my ipad.

i have an android phone and the software is crap compared to iOS. i also looked at the atrix and word on the internet was that the tegra 2 was mostly hype and that the software was crap as well. only reason i'm on android is the 4.3" screen and the $20 phone price

Yap. You just proved my point. iPhone4 was introduced in mid 2010. We really want to go into the hardware debate? O.K. - I get it.

1. Glass back -> it's slippery, it stains easily, it gets scratched if you don't use a pocket or something like that - form over function. Point granted, most cheap plastics look and feel worse, but nothing beats the haptics of original aluminium iPhone (yes - I have one)

2. Camera -> I know that MP isn't everything, but the iPhone camera hardware is just average. Nothing to see here. Come on.

3. Dock consistency -> with every iteration the iPhone gets a new form factor and you can throw away your old docks. I don't know for how long you've been on Apple but rest assured - the first dock connector cables even had fixation points were you had to press to loosen some metal brackets. This is quality hardware!

4. microSIM -> Hail to King Apple for just another step of killing your once in a while travel. No - you just can not pop in a prepaid *insert whatever country here*-prepaid SIM for cheap phonecalls to your mates at home.

5. A4/A5 -> Despite of some posts left here, the iPhone still ships with an A4-processor. Not too bad, but given that dual-core A9s are all over the place now, and given that the writing was on the wall they'll hit in early 2011, I just have to say iPhone5 has to deliver with the A5 processor and it has to be at least dual-Core.

Just some of the major gripes. And I cannot stress enough that I want some respect for neither putting the non-replacable battery nor Antennagate on the list.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Actually it is pretty accurate, open your eyes and use the search bar. You will be surprised what you learn when you educate yourself or are you the lazy type and want everyone to do your work for you?

Umm no it pretty much fud. You have provided no links other than bashing. I would calling you for trolling on some of the stuff because all you did was list off BS and fud yet no facts.

I went threw and tore your first list to pieces with little trouble and yet you dance around it. Tells me that you were making up most of the stuff.

Provide links. You are the one making the claims back it up or you are just full of it and a liar plan and simple.

 

[gkpm]

Yap. You just proved my point. iPhone4 was introduced in mid 2010. We really want to go into the hardware debate? O.K. - I get it.

Come on my Spaniard friend, no one really wanted to go into an hardware debate, you kind of pushed into it.

There are gripes - like in everything - but the iPhone also does a lot very well.

Get a Samsung Galaxy S 2 for example, which is the top of range specs-wise for Europe but what do you really get? A faster web browser but lousy battery life, plus a huge unwieldy screen.

I don't know what you do with phones but I'd like a bit more than. The devil is really in the details.

The big gripe is really the cost, you can get a Desire S here for free on a €25/month 24-month contract. That's all in with 1gb data. If Apple broke into that market (which they probably won't) other phones would have a very hard time convincing anyone.

 

[squirrellydw]

Umm no it pretty much fud. You have provided no links other than bashing. I would calling you for trolling on some of the stuff because all you did was list off BS and fud yet no facts.
I don't need to do your work.
I went threw and tore your first list to pieces with little trouble and yet you dance around it. Tells me that you were making up most of the stuff.
Yeah and where are your links, proof. Others can say you made that up, nothing to back up what you said.

Provide links. You are the one making the claims back it up or you are just full of it and a liar plan and simple. And you made counter claims, provide links.

I am done with this, this is way of topic now anyhow and the MODS should be deleting most of the last two pages, starting around post 153 since it has nothing to do with NORTEL

 

[swagi]

Come on my Spaniard friend, no one really wanted to go into an hardware debate, you kind of pushed into it.

There are gripes - like in everything - but the iPhone also does a lot very well.

Get a Samsung Galaxy S 2 for example, which is the top of range specs-wise for Europe but what do you really get? A faster web browser but lousy battery life, plus a huge unwieldy screen.

I don't know what you do with phones but I'd like a bit more than. The devil is really in the details.

The big gripe is really the cost, you can get a Desire S here for free on a €25/month 24-month contract. That's all in with 1gb data. If Apple broke into that market (which they probably won't) other phones would have a very hard time convincing anyone.

Honestly I mainly phone with my phone. Some casual texting and web-surfing, but...

...I came to a point were I am now. I'm using 2 phones. One annoying smartphone (had an iPhone, currently rocking a Galaxy - and just to put that straight - wife still on iPhone) and one stupid dumbass Nokia 1630 phone. You know, one that is on standby for weeks! I need an emergency phone for my job and guess what - a smartphone can't do that job!

Your claims about battery are really stupid claims - as everyone who's had either phone (Android or iPhone) knows -> no juice for one day and your phone may be dead in your pocket. This applies to iOS and Android - and I guess WP7 too, but on this front I cannot comment form personal experience.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Honestly I mainly phone with my phone. Some casual texting and web-surfing, but...

...I came to a point were I am now. I'm using 2 phones. One annoying smartphone (had an iPhone, currently rocking a Galaxy - and just to put that straight - wife still on iPhone) and one stupid dumbass Nokia 1630 phone. You know, one that is on standby for weeks! I need an emergency phone for my job and guess what - a smartphone can't do that job!

Your claims about battery are really stupid claims - as everyone who's had either phone (Android or iPhone) knows -> no juice for one day and your phone may be dead in your pocket. This applies to iOS and Android - and I guess WP7 too, but on this front I cannot comment form personal experience.

The only smart phone I really know of off hand that can go days on end with out a charge was the Blackberry 9700. I know on that phone they would go on and on about how if you went out of town for a weekend you just left your charger at home as the phone would still be in good shape when you got back on sunday.

I know on one of my old dumb phones if I went somewhere for the weekend I would normally just say screw the charger the phone had enough juice to make it from Friday morning until I got back Sunday.
Moved to the smart phone world and juice goes from being measured in days and it be safe to I need to charge it every night.

 

[rjohnstone]

Actually it is pretty accurate, open your eyes and use the search bar. You will be surprised what you learn when you educate yourself or are you the lazy type and want everyone to do your work for you?

I very well educated thank you.
As for do my own work? I wasn't the one making baseless claims with no facts to back them up.

Being a user and developer of both iOS and Android devices, I can comfortably call the other poster's claims pretty much pure BS.

Move along now troll.

 

[McGee]

And those companies didn't Borrow a lot from the Newton?

And apple didn't borrow some of that from Grid who made http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l%3D%26a%3D25552%26po%3D4,00.asp The GRiDPad 1900 in 1989? Although I just found Tandy created the Tandy model 100 in 1983.

 

[maclaptop]

Now you can add "stupidity" to the Android mess.

Whatever you do, don't read the mainstream press, or tech sites.

The "mess" is getting a lot of attention and selling a lot of phones.

Challenge yourself to see if you can refrain from coming back with "Yes but Apple sells far more"

1) We already know that
2) I don't care.
3) I happen to own Both iOS, and Android phones and enjoy them equally.

 

[cmaier]

And apple didn't borrow some of that from Grid who made http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l%3D%26a%3D25552%26po%3D4,00.asp The GRiDPad 1900 in 1989? Although I just found Tandy created the Tandy model 100 in 1983.

You just proved my point. Apple didn't rely on the companies you listed - they relied on the general progression of the state of the art, including their own prior contributions.

 

[squirrellydw]

Lol

 

[BTW]

This team that won, including Apple, probably has cross licensing deals of the whole portfolio. It is in this team's best interests to see Google left in the dark and paying royalties out the ying-yang thereby making it expensive to be a Google licensee. The Oracle lawsuit is meant to help increase the costs. Google has yet to be confronted on WebM. In the end Android with fail because of all the licensing they'll eventually have to pay-out.

 

[swagi]

Oh btw

For those guys putting LTE in the far future:

Just today I had a flyer in my letterbox telling me that my home city of

COLOGNE, GERMANY

is about to get LTE.

Contracts and Surf-Sticks are offered

 

[shompa]

Samsung has to pay Microsoft 15 dollar per Android phone.

So the people who called my post FuD:

Who was right????

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Wants+15+USD+Per+Samsung+Android+Phone+Sold/article22079.htm

 

[shompa]

This team that won, including Apple, probably has cross licensing deals of the whole portfolio. It is in this team's best interests to see Google left in the dark and paying royalties out the ying-yang thereby making it expensive to be a Google licensee. The Oracle lawsuit is meant to help increase the costs. Google has yet to be confronted on WebM. In the end Android with fail because of all the licensing they'll eventually have to pay-out.

Google does not manufactures phones.

The royalties are payed by the manufactures: HTC, SAMSUNG and so on.
Google does not CARE. They only care about advertising and data mining that they use Android OS from.

Google calls Android free, but it is already more expensive to use Android then Windows Mobile7. Windows Mobile 7 license costs 15 dollar.

Android is "free", but since Android breaks so many patents by Microsoft, Android makes have to pay 5-15 dollar per Android phone to MS.
+ every Android maker does their own GUI.

+ There will be more licensing fees when more companies calls out all the copied stuff by Google in Android.

 

[ssk2]

Samsung has to pay Microsoft 15 dollar per Android phone.

So the people who called my post FuD:

Who was right????

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Wants+15+USD+Per+Samsung+Android+Phone+Sold/article22079.htm

If you read the headline, it says they WANT $15 per phone and not that they HAVE to. Moreover, this only applies to Samsung phones, not each Android phone sold.

So yeah, nice try...