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Apple Has Relied More on China-Based Engineers During Pandemic
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Comrade Tim, how about moving your operations to a country with a slightly less repulsive government?
How about specifying a country that has the infrastructure and workers to manufacture (parts sourcing & management/assembly/test/QA/fulfillment) roughly 600,000 iPhones per day, with the ability to ramp that number up and down on a moment's notice?
Name calling? Seriously?
It would behoove you (and the rest of us) to go back to "avoiding these types of conversations". Not to attack you personally, but your "facts" are not...well...factual.
The Chinese government will steal every secret apple has, get out of China.
Apple engineers in China have taken on greater responsibilities during the COVID-19 pandemic, as travel restrictions and lockdowns have prevented Apple from sending as many U.S. engineers to the country as it normally would, according to The Wall Street Journal.
While key matters like product design are still handled at Apple's headquarters in California, the report claims that Apple has gradually given its China-based engineers more authority to resolve problems, with less input from U.S. employees.The report adds that Apple has used video calling to remotely communicate with Chinese employees to resolve factory issues and more, in an effort to keep pace with its annual product cycles, including new iPhone models each year.
China has imposed strict restrictions and/or lockdowns in cities like Shanghai, Beijing, and Zhengzhou in recent weeks. Last month, Apple warned that its June quarter revenue would be impacted by a number of factors, including supply constraints caused by COVID-related disruptions and industrywide silicon shortages. Apple said it expected those constraints to result in a $4 billion to $8 billion impact on revenue for the quarter.
The disruptions have resulted in lengthy shipping estimates for several Apple products, such as the MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, and more.
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Good job, Apple, and good job, China! Human lives and health are more valuable than money, and it’s great to see that at least in this particular scenario, both Apple and China are doing something to protect human lives and health.
I only visit Macrumors to consult anonymous commenters when I’m not sure how to handle global pandemics.
Masks are useless, hmm that’s illogical and irresponsible. They are the saving grace while vaccines got developed and while we wait for under 4yrs approval.
How exactly would Apple leaving China prevent genocide? If only the world worked that simply.
You mean another country with slave labor?
How about they give up a few profits and build their products in countries that aren't arming themselves in direct competition with the U.S.
So do you request that surgeons forgo the whole mask thing when you get major surgery?
I never suggested another country with slave labor. Why are you making stuff up?
"How about they give up a few profits and build their products in countries that aren't arming themselves in direct competition with the U.S."
Again... which countries do you recommend that can manufacture and ship 200,000 iPhones per day, and ramp that up and down based on demand.?
It's a very simple question. Please respond with a handful of countries that can meet those requirements.
There is no way this is right. It would be an insane disruption even given how important TSMC alone is important to Apple.
Until those engineers go to work for Huawei and compete with Apple
A country that has concentration camps, slave labor, forced organ harvesting, and openly and repeatedly talks about war with the USA, and the country that runs the largest industrial espionage operation in the world directed against the US and EU ... sure nothing to worry about ... even as they militarize the entire sea down to the Phillipines, and repeatedly threaten to invade the country of Taiwan that has the most advanced chips. Sure, they are our friends, right comrade?
Apple sells us the most expensive stuff with the panache of California - but its really Chinese stuff - and with all the talk of protecting users' rights in the US, they quietly aquiesced to the police state of China collecting data on all Chinese citizens. And as you said, they have set up almost everything so that Chinese companies can replace Apple soon enough. In short, Apple sold us out for their profits of the past 20 years. They could have moderated their greed, and/or not gotten into bed with the murderous dictatorship, but they chose the greedy amoral path. I am regretful I have supported apple for so many years.
Also engineered by Apple... but in China.
Assembled by Foxconn and various partners.
I had a colleague who moved back to China to work for Alibaba, from a German company. He said the salaries are about the same as international salaries.
So I doubt that Apple's Chinese engineers are that much cheaper than its American ones. On Foxconn, that's something else.
You're making that a requirement. If China is the only country that can do that at will, then their labor force is manipulated and mistreated.
Glad you're so proud that Apple reduced itself into a margins at all cost company.
They can build them somewhere else and still be mega rich.
I didn't say it would, but I don't think we should continue to fund and support evil regimes by giving them economic wealth.
They can likely do better elsewhere. Vietnam, India to name a few if you want to stick to cheaper countries in Asia.