Apple has removed a lot from the new Mac Book Pro.

[digitalcuriosity]

Can't help notice all the things Apple has removed from their new 13" Mac Book Pro, from the 2011 MBP i bought.

No DVD no USB slot sure you can use adapters and a stand alone DVD if needed no simple plug in for head phones, but why make these reducing items to it?

I know many of you will just say the DVD is no longer needed i question this, and there are work around's using adapters bought from Apple.

 

[robvas]

They took the DVD drive out back in 2012
You've needed adapters since 2016

 

[ducatiti]

I adapted and moved on. I bought an external DVD players three years ago and used it once, total. Same thing with the drive on my iMac, never used.

 

[tobefirst ⚽️]

Can't help notice all the things Apple has removed from their new 13" Mac Book Pro, from the 2011 MBP i bought.

No DVD no USB slot sure you can use adapters and a stand alone DVD if needed no simple plug in for head phones, but why make these reducing items to it?

I know many of you will just say the DVD is no longer needed i question this, and there are work around's using adapters bought from Apple.

Umm..what? I'm confused. Or maybe you are.

 

[mroy16]

no simple plug in for head phones

All MBPs still have a standard headphone jack.

Apple has removed what it sees as legacy features in order to make the laptops more portable. DVD drives are less and less common in laptops, as are a number of older ports. There are certainly pros and cons to what Apple has done, but a number of the removals makes sense. Very thin laptops from other manufacturers often omit optical drives, RJ45 ethernet jacks, and a number of other features once common. Needs and standards change. You can always purchase a different laptop if Apple doesn't suit your needs.

 

[sonicrobby]

I dont mind the new USB C, but Im patiently waiting for the rest of the industry to standardize it as the prime IO port

 

[maerz001]

Yes unbelievable. I just woke up after 7 years of cryogenic sleep and the first thing I have to do is buying an external CD drive to install WinXP.

That sucks!

 

[digitalcuriosity]

Yes unbelievable. I just woke up after 7 years of cryogenic sleep and the first thing I have to do is buying an external CD drive to load WinXP.

That sucks!

Really sorry you have to buy a external DVD to install Win xt or xp or maybe windows for work groups then again Vista might work.
Anything might work better then Apples programs.

 

[macdudesir]

The CD drive is long gone...very few people need it anymore, and removing it saved a ton of space and weight. Pretty much all new notebooks are CD drive free...USB-C does seem a bit premature, but it is definitely the way of the future, and it allowed them to make the computers even thinner. The industry definitely will catch up, as Apple often sets the trends.

 

[UBS28]

The CD drive is long gone...very few people need it anymore, and removing it saved a ton of space and weight. Pretty much all new notebooks are CD drive free...USB-C does seem a bit premature, but it is definitely the way of the future, and it allowed them to make the computers even thinner. The industry definitely will catch up, as Apple often sets the trends.

And now if you want to listen to music on your computer, you have to listen to crappy mp3’s rather than CD quality.

Or better yet, rent your music at a lower quality than CD anyway.

 

[redleg6]

Really sorry you have to buy a external DVD to install Win xt or xp or maybe windows for work groups then again Vista might work.
Anything might work better then Apples programs.

The brotherly love in this forum is something to behold

 

[Natzoo]

computers even thinner

Also they made them less pro in my opinion. More geared towards everyday users and not users who want more out of their laptop

 

[Glmnet1]

The way I see it, they made the MBP to be a better portable workstation. I have a 2011 MBP and I love it, but it's not very portable. In fact I leave it on my desk most of the time because it's big and heavy and when I do carry it I wish I had a newer one.

It has a CD drive and I never use it. It has USB-A ports on it and I rarely use them, I'd be more than happy to replace the mouse I occasionally plug in for a bluetooth one.

Yes some need CD drives and USB-A ports but for a lot of people the weight and size of the new MBP far outweigh the lack of these features.

 

[mroy16]

Also they made them less pro in my opinion. More geared towards everyday users and not users who want more out of their laptop

The catch is - there is no real meaning to the word "Pro". I think more and more of the customer base has realized that it's an Apple marketing term more than anything. Apple uses Pro to designated a higher powered machine - Mac Pro vs other Mac, iPad Pro vs iPad, MacBook Pro vs MacBook.

I use a MacBook Pro as a graduate student, and it's perfect for my needs. If I really needed a more powerful yet portable solution, I would look elsewhere.

 

[bcave098]

The way I see it, they made the MBP to be a better portable workstation. I have a 2011 MBP and I love it, but it's not very portable. In fact I leave it on my desk most of the time because it's big and heavy and when I do carry it I wish I had a newer one.

It has a CD drive and I never use it. It has USB-A ports on it and I rarely use them, I'd be more than happy to replace the mouse I occasionally plug in for a bluetooth one.

Yes some need CD drives and USB-A ports but for a lot of people the weight and size of the new MBP far outweigh the lack of these features.

Not to mention the fastest and most versatile I/O ever (aka TB3).

The catch is - there is no real meaning to the word "Pro". I think more and more of the customer base has realized that it's an Apple marketing term more than anything. Apple uses Pro to designated a higher powered machine - Mac Pro vs other Mac, iPad Pro vs iPad, MacBook Pro vs MacBook.

I use a MacBook Pro as a graduate student, and it's perfect for my needs. If I really needed a more powerful yet portable solution, I would look elsewhere.

Originally "Pro" was just the replacement for "Power," anyway.

 

[No. 44]

I also wish Apple still offered a laptop with an optical drive. I know the music industry -- and Apple, for that matter -- make more money when consumers rent the music, but I prefer to buy CDs.

The way I see it, they made the MBP to be a better portable workstation. I have a 2011 MBP and I love it, but it's not very portable. In fact I leave it on my desk most of the time because it's big and heavy and when I do carry it I wish I had a newer one.

2011

• Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm)
• Width: 14.35 inches (36.4 cm)
• Depth: 9.82 inches (24.9 cm)
• Weight: 5.6 pounds (2.54 kg)

2016

• Height: 0.61 inch (1.55 cm)
• Width: 13.75 inches (34.93 cm)
• Depth: 9.48 inches (24.07 cm)
• Weight: 4.02 pounds (1.83 kg)

"Big and heavy"? "Not very portable"? That seems a bit exaggerated to me. The weight difference comes to a can of soda and a banana; the size difference is fractions of an inch. I carry mine around every day, and I don't find it cumbersome in the least.

 

[0989382]

To be fair, anyone saying "oh you need adapters I hate these new MacBook Pro's"

You're the id**ts, I mean, you paid £1000+ for these new machines and it's not like you didn't realise the lesser choice of ports before hand? So if you really need them why did you buy a computer without them? There's £300 supermarket special laptops with a tonne of I/O. Why not buy three of them?!

I think in reality most of you bought the MBP because you realise that it's not that big a deal. Sure I loved plugging my iPhone into my old Mac to charge everywhere I went and I can't do it now because I have no adapter but it's really not that big of a deal. If it truly was, I'd probably hate the machine and if I did I'd sell it? So where does the ranting come into it?

 

[Glmnet1]

2011

• Height: 0.95 inch (2.41 cm)
• Width: 14.35 inches (36.4 cm)
• Depth: 9.82 inches (24.9 cm)
• Weight: 5.6 pounds (2.54 kg)

2016

• Height: 0.61 inch (1.55 cm)
• Width: 13.75 inches (34.93 cm)
• Depth: 9.48 inches (24.07 cm)
• Weight: 4.02 pounds (1.83 kg)

"Big and heavy"? "Not very portable"? That seems a bit exaggerated to me. The weight difference comes to a can of soda and a banana; the size difference is fractions of an inch. I carry mine around every day, and I don't find it cumbersome in the least.

Well that's 30% less weight in only 6 years, I find that impressive and I hope they will continue to make it as light as possible instead of holding on to relics. If they didn't we might still be carrying around a 25 pound machine with a floppy drive and a massive trackball!

 

[Apple fanboy]

To be fair, anyone saying "oh you need adapters I hate these new MacBook Pro's"

You're the id**ts, I mean, you paid £1000+ for these new machines and it's not like you didn't realise the lesser choice of ports before hand? So if you really need them why did you buy a computer without them? There's £300 supermarket special laptops with a tonne of I/O. Why not buy three of them?!

I think in reality most of you bought the MBP because you realise that it's not that big a deal. Sure I loved plugging my iPhone into my old Mac to charge everywhere I went and I can't do it now because I have no adapter but it's really not that big of a deal. If it truly was, I'd probably hate the machine and if I did I'd sell it? So where does the ranting come into it?

Just buy a cable. No need for an adaptor.

The problem is we keep getting told this is the industry standard (like thunderbolt). Then it's dropped.
USB 2/3 as well as being backward capable was around for a long time. That's why we all have many devices that use it.

I remember buying my iMac without a CD drive and thinking I'd add a SuperDrive at the time of purchase. I forgot and found I didn't really need it.
I acquired one from work as it was getting binned and I've used it a couple of times in the two years I've had it.

Things move on. If Macs still fit your needs buy one. If not, move on.
If you'd rather buy a Mac, an adaptor and skip Widows altogether then I'm with you.

My 2012 iMac will be replaced this year or next. Just have to decide what Mac to buy.

 

[Phil A.]

And now if you want to listen to music on your computer, you have to listen to crappy mp3’s rather than CD quality.

Or better yet, rent your music at a lower quality than CD anyway.

Or you could do what I and many other people do and rip your CDs in lossless format using a portable drive and then listen to CD quality music whenever you want without having to carry a load of CDs around

 

[Apple Fritter]

Gotta say I really miss having a DVD drive. Not like I ever saw a reason for that technology in a portable computer (whenever I need it, there's a desktop computer handy).

BUT being able to yank it out and easily add a second HDD/SSD was priceless.

 

[No. 44]

Well that's 30% less weight in only 6 years, I find that impressive and I hope they will continue to make it as light as possible instead of holding on to relics. If they didn't we might still be carrying around a 25 pound machine with a floppy drive and a massive trackball!

More hyperbole...

I suppose the 28% reduction in weight could be welcomed by weaker individuals, and the new model is thinner, but this all comes at a price: Less features (optical drive, ports), less battery capacity, and a less ergonomic keyboard which is not only prone to failure, but also scratches the screen when the lid is shut and slight pressure is applied.

My "relic" has never been crippled by a speck of dust, and the screen has never been damaged by the very comfortable keyboard, although I lug it around with me in a backpack full of books on a daily basis.

 

[TonyK]

The CD drive is long gone...very few people need it anymore, and removing it saved a ton of space and weight. Pretty much all new notebooks are CD drive free...USB-C does seem a bit premature, but it is definitely the way of the future, and it allowed them to make the computers even thinner. The industry definitely will catch up, as Apple often sets the trends.

Just today I needed a DVD drive to burn a disc for a friend. I took photos of some things for her back in 2005 and she lost her copy. Without the external unit I bought, in anticipation of a MBP, I would not be able to help her.

So there are uses. Maybe not for and others but there are still people who need one for whatever reason.
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More hyperbole...

I suppose the 28% reduction in weight could be welcomed by weaker individuals, ...

Well let us see. Arthritis in both shoulders and a bad disc in my back. Carrying too much weight is physically painful for me. So yes, that much weight reduction is noticeable and appreciated, especially on longer trips.

 

[sputnikBA]

I’m personally most disappointed in the battery going from 99.5Wh down to 76.0Wh.

Close second is the loss of a MagSafe like system considering Apple pioneered it.

You can make various arguments regarding the other features that were lost, but I don’t know who is better served with less battery, and a safety feature on their charging cable that could save their multi-thousand £¥$ device being pulled off a table.

 

[digitalcuriosity]

And now if you want to listen to music on your computer, you have to listen to crappy mp3’s rather than CD quality.

Or better yet, rent your music at a lower quality than CD anyway.

I could not have posted it better, to me it's just the powers at Apple telling us this is whet we are giving you today like it and learn what you need to do since it's not like it used to be.
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The way I see it, they made the MBP to be a better portable workstation. I have a 2011 MBP and I love it, but it's not very portable. In fact I leave it on my desk most of the time because it's big and heavy and when I do carry it I wish I had a newer one.

It has a CD drive and I never use it. It has USB-A ports on it and I rarely use them, I'd be more than happy to replace the mouse I occasionally plug in for a bluetooth one.

Yes some need CD drives and USB-A ports but for a lot of people the weight and size of the new MBP far outweigh the lack of these features.

Maybe what you describe is a tablet that you and a "lot of people" need.