Because they operate inside their borders, you don't see Ford moaning about how Europe has different rules on lights, safety features etc. no they just comply with the rules.
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Apple Has 'Very Serious' DMA Issues, EU to Enforce Rules 'Soon'
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They tried to, but Apple Intelligence can't translate languages into English yet.
Just to make it clear: your comment is not the answer to my comment that APIs exists anyways, and any comment such as "Apple has spent billions for APIs" are just excuses.
Regarding your comment: the fact is that normal people have only one smartphone and do almost everything on that. As an App developer I develop for the platform used by my customers. I can’t expect from them to buy an additional smartphone just for my app. This is the reason why “normal apps” run on any platform, and therefore no one should ask for a cut from the developer. A game is more than just a “normal app”. You develop for a platform which can provide the experience you want to offer while still being able to maintain a minimum level of business. And even then, there is no reason to pay a cut from your earnings to a pimp in between, if you don’t want the service from that pimp.
DaPhox
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We ”all” know the answer to that but I dont want to be banned for the 10th time….
Come on. I didn't expect that someone still compares physical stores to the only store!
DaPhox
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The fact that you even juxtapose them…. :S
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Victor Mortimer
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That's actually an area that REALLY needs fixing. It would be great to see a worldwide set of standards for cars, and it would be really nice if the US would just adopt the EU standards. Red turn signals should be illegal, as should turn signals sharing lights with brake lights.
Jackbequickly
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Victor Mortimer
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Yep, can't talk about 'politics' here.
(MR conveniently forgetting that EVERYTHING is politics, and that there's a strong correlation between right wingers wanting 'rights' for corporations and the left wanting rights for actual humans, which makes it very relevant to a discussion about Apple's misbehavior.)
Right, I betcha that Spotify’s lobbyists are the reason behind this push.
This is Apple just being bloody minded and wanting to pick a fight. Y’all are blaming the EU, but they are allowed their rules along with every other country. Apple are choosing not to cooperate over a lousy eur 0.50! As for them pulling out of Europe well that is just idiotic. There is no way they will ever do that. It’s only a matter of time before the US gets in their face too so what are they going to do then pull out of the US as well
So, if the way Apple operates is "always bad" then why didn't the EU pass a general law, applicable to all companies who operate in the EU? (Hint: because this is generally considered business as usual, and the EU didn't want to pass a law that would directly affect EU companies).
When I say "Apple should leave the EU" I mean this...
If Apple were to leave the EU, I believe the fallout for the EU would be a significan shift in the voting patterns of EU citizens. It's my belief that a strong enough contingent of EU citizens prefer their Apple products to the nonsense being perpetrated by the EU regulators.
So when I say Apple should leave the EU, I'm not suggesting they should lose the revenue forever, because I think Apple would win that war.
If Apple were to leave the EU, I believe the fallout for the EU would be a significan shift in the voting patterns of EU citizens. It's my belief that a strong enough contingent of EU citizens prefer their Apple products to the nonsense being perpetrated by the EU regulators.
So when I say Apple should leave the EU, I'm not suggesting they should lose the revenue forever, because I think Apple would win that war.
WarmWinterHat
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Start with the biggest offenders and work your way down.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of good.
As I said earlier, everyone forgets the US government is suing Apple under antitrust for many of the same reasons that the EU is cracking down. What will Apple do when it's home-turf government tells it to change its ways under the force of law?
Japan also requires an open app ecosystem now, too. Will they leave Japan as well? I suspect India will require it as well within a year or so.
I dunno, China is a bigger market than the EU, and Google pulled out of China. The EU wants to think it’ll be the next hegemon, but I think China’s more likely to reach that goal than the EU.
bcortens
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I would say they did pass a universal law.
Big companies that can act as gatekeepers to doing business in the digital age are very different from small companies. If any company grows into gatekeeper size I think they too will be subject to regulation. Future companies around AI could also grow to a size where they gatekeeper access to AI tools and they would likely end up regulated too.
To those of you saying "Apple should have self-regulated and none of this would have happened!"
...this is a highly targeted law, written specifically to hobble a very small group of foreign companies. The laws contained in the DMA are not considered universally "good" else the EU would have written a general law that applies to all companies. They didn't. You wouldn't want them to. The DMA is not some self-evident panacea for peace and prosperity in the world.
I give no ground to the moralists who think that Government can run tech economies better than tech companies and the consumers who either choose to buy or not buy their products.
...this is a highly targeted law, written specifically to hobble a very small group of foreign companies. The laws contained in the DMA are not considered universally "good" else the EU would have written a general law that applies to all companies. They didn't. You wouldn't want them to. The DMA is not some self-evident panacea for peace and prosperity in the world.
I give no ground to the moralists who think that Government can run tech economies better than tech companies and the consumers who either choose to buy or not buy their products.
bcortens
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It's targeted at big tech gatekeepers who collectively control access to digital commerce.
Perhaps you think these companies should be broken up into smaller chunks so that they aren't able to control access in the ways they do?
Edit: When Apple started to get as big as they are now about 5-7 years ago it was time for Apple to reconsider how controlling they were lest they risk regulation, especially when they started to have to carve out exemptions to their rules to satisfy big customers. That should have been a clue that perhaps they were no longer in a position to expect to be able to control access to iOS users anymore.
This is nonsense. You pass a general law if you believe the practice is universally bad.
WarmWinterHat
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This is a general law.
EU: Here is the threshold...Once you (company) passes this threshold, you're subject to the following. It doesn't matter where you're from.
"gatekeepers" is a recently made up term, again, used to simply target non-EU companies after the EU realized that their regulatory environment has devastated their own growth in tech. For example, Spotify controls a significant portion of digital commerce in the music sector, moreso than any other company in the world, but the EU didn't label them a gatekeeper. For obvious reasons.
bcortens
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Controlling access to a platform isn't bad if the platform has 10 users and businesses can reasonably expect to direct their customers elsewhere. If the platform is 1/3 of all users and is the largest platform for commerce then it becomes a very different story.
WarmWinterHat
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I say China is a very obvious situation where the government might require an additional app store outside of Apple.
Gatekeeper has a definition, and it applies to any and all companies of a certain size or larger. It has nothing to do with US companies, and never did.
I personally mark it as a bad thing that ANY tech companies have gotten as big and powerful as they are.
If you think the DMA is a general law, ok 🙂 But it's clearly not. I'm not going to argue such an obvious point with you. 😉
Anti-trust law in the EU does tend to be more focused on impacts to other corporations (ie b2b operations), while, in the US, it tends to be focused on impacts to customers (ie impacts on prices, for instance). EU typically does a good job of crouching it in the language of protecting consumers, but any benefit to consumers is a side effect of its impact on other corporations.