Apple Health App Data Helps Send a Man to Prison for His Wife's Death

[Lootarass]

Maybe he had one of those vibrating massage pads. Maybe he farted so loudly that the vibration cause incorrect data. Regardless, the judge should be taken off the bench as this is the dumbest and most unreliable data to base a conviction on. How can you even prove he was the one wearing the dam watch. Stupid. Just shows how flawed our judicial system is and how dumb some of the judges are...

 

[Lootarass]

Also 18 steps could just be a trip to the bathroom. But I assume they're using more evidence than just the steps, like the fingerprints for example.

Maybe he bought the wine......

 

[Matty_P]

I know. This story just makes me very uneasy. What if someone in my house is murdered at 11pm, and I happen to be using the bathroom at the same time as the murder? Then police can say “you took 16 steps at 11pm” or whatever. With all this data, I feel like more mistakes could be made.

I know. This story just makes me very uneasy. What if someone in my house is murdered at 11pm, and I happen to be using the bathroom at the same time as the murder? Then police can say “you took 16 steps at 11pm” or whatever. With all this data, I feel like more mistakes could be made.

Well hopefully you’d tell the police you were in the bathroom, not in bed asleep!

 

[tivoboy]

Maybe he had one of those vibrating massage pads. Maybe he farted so loudly that the vibration cause incorrect data. Regardless, the judge should be taken off the bench as this is the dumbest and most unreliable data to base a conviction on. How can you even prove he was the one wearing the dam watch. Stupid. Just shows how flawed our judicial system is and how dumb some of the judges are...

And well, Alabama.

 

[ericwn]

Wasnt't it heavily marketed that all health data stays in a "secure enclave" and never leaves the device? Was that complete ********?

No that’s your Face ID and Touch ID information that are saved there.

 

[kc9hzn]

No that’s your Face ID and Touch ID information that are saved there.

Right, the Secure Enclave probably doesn’t have all that much memory onboard (on the order of kilobytes or single digit megabytes, memory in processor is always substantially more expensive than memory outside of the processor), let alone the gigabytes that an active Health user could potentially generate.

Edit: Speaking of gigabytes, my health data is almost 1.5GB, and I don’t even consider myself a heavy user. (That said, I’m probably a heavier user than average, but a long term Apple Watch user is likely to be pushing almost 1GB at this point on just the data the watch collects daily.)

 

[ericwn]

Right, the Secure Enclave probably doesn’t have all that much memory onboard (on the order of kilobytes or single digit megabytes, memory in processor is always substantially more expensive than memory outside of the processor), let alone the gigabytes that an active Health user could potentially generate.

Edit: Speaking of gigabytes, my health data is almost 1.5GB, and I don’t even consider myself a heavy user. (That said, I’m probably a heavier user than average, but a long term Apple Watch user is likely to be pushing almost 1GB at this point on just the data the watch collects daily.)

Having a third of the free 5GB iCloud storage filled with that data is certainly a way to sell more storage to customers...

 

[kc9hzn]

Having a third of the free 5GB iCloud storage filled with that data is certainly a way to sell more storage to customers...

Eh, my cloud backups already did that before iCloud health data syncing was even a thing! I was so happy when I heard Apple was bundling iCloud storage space in the Apple zone bundle! Mind you, I only need the 50GB anyway. I’m at no risk of running out of that!

But seriously, I’ve been using an Apple Watch daily for over five years now (got my first in late 2015), and I’ve been using an older one as a sleep tracker for three years. So it’s really not all that surprising that I’ve got so much data in Health.

 

[amartinez1660]

18 steps? That doesn't sound like evidence to me. If I'm in bed asleep, and get up to pee, it takes me 26 steps to the toilet and back. I'm pretty sure it would take me a tonne more steps to stage a scene. I sure hope he did it and that an innocent person isn't in jail. Either way, may Kat West RIP.

That and also the fingerprints... any bottle, glass, fork, knife, counter top, door handles, umbrellas, toys, anything really can and will have fingerprints from the last time they were used potentially weeks/months ago... if anybody comes to my place, steals anything and commits a crime later on, my fingerprints will probably be there, so I actually don’t quite get the whole steps, fingerprints, time of activity, etc 100% incriminating evidence.
Not a lawyer though, also hoping for the same “not an innocent paying jail time who’s got his wife killed by an accident or downright murdered by someone else but now off the hook”