SAME price?
They have gone up £2 pounds!
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Can you not use hdmi output cable to put it on a 4k tv in 4k?
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Apple Highlighting 4K HDR Movies in iTunes Ahead of Apple TV 4K Launch
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SAME price?
They have gone up £2 pounds!
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Can you not use hdmi output cable to put it on a 4k tv in 4k?
Annoyingly, many films available in 4K and HDR on the US store aren’t available on the UK store! La La Land is one of them. Any idea why this is?
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How have they gone up £2? They’re still either £9.99 or £13.99.
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How have they gone up £2? They’re still either £9.99 or £13.99.
There's more to it than just HDCP (which only protects the video connection to the display). To my knowledge macOS does not have a hardware-assisted DRM framework equivalent to Microsoft's "PlayReady 3.0", which is required on Windows PCs to stream protected 4k content (in addition to a video card with HDCP 2.2).
Hm? The link says very clearly that only the ATV4K can play protected 4K content at this time.It would be easier if Apple would just tell us which of their devices are capable of 4K + HDR, which can only do 4K, and which can only do HDR.
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It would be easier if Apple would just tell us which of their devices are capable of 4K + HDR, which can only do 4K, and which can only do HDR.
Huh? Do DO tell you that only the Apple TV can play 4K video.... So not sure what you mean.
Ultra HD Premium requires 1000 nits (but only 600 nits for OLED, which can maintain the range because of the black level). However many TVs offer HDR to a lower standard, so the iMac should be fine, especially as it is likely brighter than the iPad Pros that Apple are offering HDR on.
benji888 also asked about HDR. Some devices (I think only iPhone X and 2017 model iPad Pros) can do HDR, but not 4K.
Everyone's wants/needs are different, but I'm fine with 5.1 audio. What I *am* upset about is the lack of 24Hz support.
2017 iPad Pro models, and iPhone X can do HDR, there is a switch to turn it on in iOS 11 (for these devices only). So, some devices may be able to play the higher quality color, but, not at 4K resolution? And, what about the 4K/5K iMacs?
What that says is that the whole chain needs to be 4K compatible, it doesn't necessarily mean the ATV 4K is the only apple device that will play 4K content. If the 4K/5K iMacs are HDCP 2.2 compliant, they will be able to play 4K content also. Same with any TB3 Mac with a 4K or better monitor, this should be possible.
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you should check out the apple tv thread on AVS forum, they're talking about that.Everyone's wants/needs are different, but I'm fine with 5.1 audio. What I *am* upset about is the lack of 24Hz support.
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"You can download a local copy of an HD movie, and you might be able to download HDR and Dolby Vision versions, but you can't download a 4K version." (from the apple support link posted previously in this thread).
I think so too. Otherwise, Apple would of already mentioned that High Sierra would allow 4K iTunes video playback in the document as the operating system is right around the corner.
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So, after reading the above support document, it seems that you purchase or rent iTunes content and it will stream at the highest resolution and quality it can for your device, but, not allowing the highest quality to be downloaded, that must be the caveat for no increase in price for 4K over HD.
I would guess that, if you can't watch 4K on retina screen Macs, then, maybe they will update the HDCP for future models? IDK, seems like a pretty big oversight, if you ask me, having all these screens at P3 color, iMacs with 4K or 5K resolution, able to add a 2nd monitor to many Macs that's 4K or 5K, possibly even able to do HDR, but, not being able to use them to watch UHD content??
Ah, now I get it.
So, after reading the above support document, it seems that you purchase or rent iTunes content and it will stream at the highest resolution and quality it can for your device, but, not allowing the highest quality to be downloaded, that must be the caveat for no increase in price for 4K over HD.
I would guess that, if you can't watch 4K on retina screen Macs, then, maybe they will update the HDCP for future models? IDK, seems like a pretty big oversight, if you ask me, having all these screens at P3 color, iMacs with 4K or 5K resolution, able to add a 2nd monitor to many Macs that's 4K or 5K, possibly even able to do HDR, but, not being able to use them to watch UHD content??
They already increased the price prior to 4K to compensate for your Brexit nuked economy.
Seeing some newer films at £5.49 rental, with the £4.49 & £3.49 rental tiers still there too. Will have to check if Amazon have followed suit. Having a Fire TV as well as ATV 4th Gen means whoever offers the best rental price gets the dough (regular 1080p system here, barring my iPad Pro). Plus Fire TV outputs Dolby Digital+ as a bitstream meaning my receiver can do a better job with the sound.
Will still go with iTunes/ATV/iPP for purchases though, mainly for iTunes Extras but also with HDR on the iPP now.
It’s looking like the £5.49 rental tier may have been the trade off for 4K/HDR at no price increase for purchases, much as the 99p top pricing tier was for iTunes Plus, 256KB/s + DRM free content back in 2007.
If thats the case its a ridiculous trade off, everyone with iTunes and/or an iDevice benefitted from DRM free 256kbps content, a small fraction of Apple customers have Apple TVs let alone an Apple TV and 4K TV, let alone ATV, 4K TV and a high speed uncapped internet connection. Additionally, if thats the deal they've done, everyone renting new release movies on iTunes is subsidising the cost of 4K, regardless of whether or not they can actually take advantage of it, which is pretty disgusting.
What will be telling is if Amazon & Sky follow suit with their 4K/HDR rental pricing. As far as I'm aware Google aren't in the position to offer 4K/HDR, so if their rental prices increase to match Apple then we can reasonably conclude that rental increases were the price paid for 4K/HDR at the same1080/non-HDR pricing.
I can also see the studios wanting a higher rental tier for 4K/HDR content and wanting to keep a mid-tier price for 1080/non-HDR content and Apple saying no; 1 rental button & price, 1 purchase button & price.
What's strange is SD is no longer cheaper or use to be £3.49 now SD is the same price as 4k not sure how that's fair?
IDK, it appears the latest retina iMacs, while they support the wider P3 color gamut, only have 500 nits, no "HDR" in tech specs, HDR is in tech specs for devices that support it.
However, iPhone 8/8+ also support HDR, (and both 2017 iPad Pro models):
FYI, Netflix app update going out now, adds HDR support for iOS 11, Premium Plan required, which is the plan you have to get for 4K anyway.
Netflix adds HDR (including DV) support for iOS 11 devices that are capable of it (currently iPhone 8/8+/X, 2017 iPad Pro 10.5/12.9.).
Netflix Help Center:
“Can I stream Netflix in Dolby Vision or HDR?”
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/42384
(Ready for ATV 4K also).
Interested to see if Netflix support HDR10/Dolby Vision on 1080 content on iPad Pro 2017. Most providers other than Apple seem to be tying HDR support together with 4K; you either get both or you get neither,
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We recommend an Internet connection speed of at least 25 megabits per second to stream titles available in HDR and Dolby Vision at Ultra HD 4K resolution. If your Internet connection speed is lower, you can still enjoy HDR at lower resolutions like 1080p. For more information, see our Internet Connection Speed Recommendations article.
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I am guessing you have the SD digital copy?
I just saw something.
I own the Star Trek (2009) blu-ray and at the time the digital copy was only SD, so I own the SD iTunes version.
When I go to the movie on my ATV (not 4K), it shows it as owned. When I play it is clearly in SD. I see no option to purchase it in HD or 4K.
When I go to the movie in iTunes on my Mac it shows “Play” where it usually has the price for the SD version, and “19.99 Buy” for the HD version. It has the HD logo, but, not 4K, (this may change with High Sierra, not sure).
When I go to iTunes on my iPad it shows the 4K version, as if not paid for, but, (what I just noticed), scroll to the bottom and I click on “Also available in SD” it shows the SD version as purchased.
Apple is only upgrading HD to 4K, so, no free 4K for those who own Star Trek digital copy.
Keep in mind, apple doesn't want to charge more for UHD over HD, so, they have to make deals with the content providers/distributors...these things take time.
Apple said in september that movies would be rolling out first, then 4K TV shows.
Also, they said in September that Amazon Prime channel would be coming "later this year", so, don't expect it tomorrow. It'll probably come out when Amazon has their new 4K streamer ready for market also, so they can compete. Amazon and Apple have not been very friendly.
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Apple said in september that movies would be rolling out first, then 4K TV shows.
Also, they said in September that Amazon Prime channel would be coming "later this year", so, don't expect it tomorrow. It'll probably come out when Amazon has their new 4K streamer ready for market also, so they can compete. Amazon and Apple have not been very friendly.
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So iPhone 7 and any hardware that is older than 2017 won't do HDR? I understand the new ones will play 4K, but I guess you won't notice a markedly clearer resolution on devices as small as the iPhone and even the iPad...