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What do these photos look like on your phones when you zoom in?

In the past when I had an X they looked great until you zoomed in and there was a loss of detail and water colour effect...
 
They should put an iPhone XS selfie shot on a billboard. Something like this :

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Indoor pics are still not that great. Lots of grain.
May be I am comparing them to the one I take from my SLR!
 
The portrait mode photo of the dog seems overall better then those my 8+ takes but for my taste the whole thing still looks somehow artificial.

If you’re shooting objects with sharp edges against a monotone background the results turn out much better but especially when taken pics of our dog outdoors the software blurring almost always messes up the outlines of his fur (and/or misses to blur out areas that should be out of focus). This just makes those pictures look like I photoshopped them very poorly. :/

Attached are some of the especially bad outcomes, I really hope Apple improves this feature software-wise in future updates.
 

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I’m not sure what’s worse audiophiles or photography/camera snobs.

I've found that camera snobs rarely have a body of compelling photographs to show. Boat marinas, their dog, back yard, brick walls (to demonstrate the righteous bokeh of their prize f/1.2 lens, shooting the wall at an angle), churches, their car, girlfriend, etc. All super sharp with respect to focus. And all super boring and ho-hum with respect to evoking any kind of emotional response from a viewer.
 
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Yeah ... just accept it because it is a phone. Just accept lower because why imagine better .... Just accept the notch because it is a meant to be a design choice. Just ignore it and accept it. Here's to the crazy ones ... and the rest is forgotten I guess. Good night.
 
As long as it's full of masking bugs, it's a complete hit and miss. Unless we can edit the depth mask manually, it's not very usable in the real world. For vlog-style walk-around video and instagram, why not. But if you're going to view the image on a 27" 5K display, there's no substitute for a DSLR or mirrorless system. A lot of people don't want to watch content on a palm-sized device. If you just want to show a funny picture, fine. But beautiful work can only be appreciated on a bigger screen, 13 inch at least.
 
As long as it's full of masking bugs, it's a complete hit and miss. Unless we can edit the depth mask manually, it's not very usable in the real world. For vlog-style walk-around video and instagram, why not. But if you're going to view the image on a 27" 5K display, there's no substitute for a DSLR or mirrorless system. A lot of people don't want to watch content on a palm-sized device. If you just want to show a funny picture, fine. But beautiful work can only be appreciated on a bigger screen, 13 inch at least.

It'd be a great feature if we could roughly add or remove edges like the quick selection tool in Photoshop. A fat finger would be good enough as it's more or less a hint to the engine, "Hey, you got that bit wrong. Look a bit more closely at the edges there."
 
Nice enough pics but they border on looking artificial and photo-shopped.

They don’t border. They cross that line with both feet.
The HDR effect is unbelievably annoying.
Fake bokeh is... well... just fake looking.
 
Most of the cost in travel photography is getting to the destination and the accommodation or hiring a car and planning.

No serious photographer would only take a phone. FFS. 12MP doesn’t beat 50MP. Small sensor doesn’t beat larger sensor. 2x zoom doesn’t match 400mm.

Any serious photographer knows how to post process. So while apples built in processing is great for the average person, why limit the cropping ability and large prints by only taking a phone.
 
They don’t border. They cross that line with both feet.
The HDR effect is unbelievably annoying.
Fake bokeh is... well... just fake looking.

I don't mind it and actually the effects are cool enough. However I don't want my entire photo library to look like that. It reminds me of what Google photos does to pics in your album and shows you occasionally. Kind of cool but I dont want the bokeh on all of my photos. Those photos don't resemble what the actuality is.
 
Here is one of my best XS shots from this weekend. Nice detail, bokeh, and highlights:

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I must destroy the likes and compliments here and I am not sorry.

The details are maybe enough for Instagram, but you absolutely cannot show this to any serious photography website.

This is simply terrible even with great light conditions.

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Now look what my iPhone X does, in the late evening forest.

Its still terrible, but considering the light conditions and my "old" iPhone, its much better than Xs.

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Does depth control only work on Portraits, and if so, why? Doesn't make sense to me...
I'd love to find out more about how Apple is doing the effect. I am guessing that Apple is doing a simple algorithm where they know which part of the picture should be in focus, but don't have any depth information than that so only have two levels of depth to play with - in focus or out of focus.
Then they are applying a blur filter with a gradient from those points.
It appears to work in some photos and not in others but especially works in portraits or images that do not give out too many clues as to the depth of the image.
It has also been suggested that Apple is taking multiple pics for things like HDR, so they could be taking multiple pictures at different focal points and stacking these but the algorithm works better on some but will get better over time.
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I’m not sure what’s worse audiophiles or photography/camera snobs.
Audiophiles are like people who believe in fairies.
photography/camera snobs are a figment of the imagination in those that can't take pictures.
 
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