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Apple Highlights How Business Can Use Vision Pro

There are loads of fascinating commercial/business/personal application possibilities using AVP. All it takes is having an open mind, a fertile imagination, curiosity, and a wee bit of ambition to bring them to fruition. Those lacking any or all of those attributes will just sit in their chair and declare AVP a flop - a much easier task.
 
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DeepWebinar said:
yeah, totally. and they’re such a cool thing to spend that much money on and totally worth it too. have fun with them, you made a really good purchase and i can tell you don’t regret it! 😀👍
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Some of use it as a productivity device and it’s an extra bonus to our workflow. My money was well spent.

The device has so much potential. Now, it’s all about bridging the hardware (specs are insane) with the software. Unfortunately, quality software takes time.

Some of the software developers are working on some shockingly good stuff. You’ll get them in due time.
 
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nfl46 said:
Some of use it as a productivity device and it’s an extra bonus to our workflow. My money was well spent.

The device has so much potential. Now, it’s all about bridging the hardware (specs are insane) with the software. Unfortunately, quality software takes time.

Some of the software developers are working on some shockingly good stuff. You’ll get them in due time.
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i’ll hold my breath on that!
 
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contacos said:
Based on the search term on Google Trends it is pretty dead since the initial launch in February. The trend of iPhone is pretty steady and therefore much more healthy.

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I'd say the iPhone activity is healthy but also mature. With 1.4 billion active iPhones, there are many queries from people asking "where can I get my iPhone screen fixed" or "how do I take pictures of an eclipse with an iPhone", and these will be steady.

So far there are half a percent as many Vision Pro headsets active in the world, so you'd expect a much smaller number of "how do I use my device" queries. But the interest in Vision Pro seems to have dropped to near zero between the announcement and the launch, and then there's a spike with all the YouTube reviews, and then it drops again, but not so close to the zero line. I expect you'll see another spike a the end if you run it again in a few days. I've seen an uptick of new Vision Pro YouTube apps since Apple quietly updated the FaceTime experience with spatial personas.

I'd like to see what happens during and after WWDC. Of course there will be a spike, but will it drop to current levels or will it flatten at a higher number?
 
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In today's economic environment - touchy and budget-constrained - I doubt this will get legs/life.
There's no way I can justify 10-20 $4000+ devices for working in VR, when we can do the same (1) with really nice OLED or LED computer displays, or even (2) with Meta Quest 2 or 3 for a fraction of the cost.

"Don't let perfection be the enemy of adequate." Vision Pro is overkill.
 
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iFunk said:
Yes! I hope it inspires the auto industry to get back to designing awesome cars like our '65 Lincoln Continental convertible! With all this WFH stuff every one could benefit from an AVP headset! This is a concept of the '61 Lincoln Continental in clay... c'mon Detroit get on board with AVP and get back to the classics. 🤣

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Impressive how ugly they got by then. The '60 was peak Continental.
 
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I think the important question here is how AVP differentiates itself from the incumbent devices already existing in these niches.
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It’s the physicality of it all. There is a big difference for example between teleporting around a VR architectural model in Twinmotion and actually walking through the model on the site it will inhabit at a 1:1 scale and being able to look up and see how it looks against its surroundings.

These are very early days but AR is one day going to change the whole of society in the same way smartphones did 15 years ago.
 
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Impressive how ugly they got by then. The '60 was peak Continental.
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Are you sure you are thinking of the right year? '58-'60 was hated! '61 Elwood Engel designed. '61-'65 are often regarded as one of the greatest designs ever. I'm a big fan of '64-'65 (I own 1 of each) but most like '61-'65 the best! Here is an example of '61. A friend of mine had a super nice '58 Continental and he sold it to Snoop Dogg of all people. Snoop had it customized and it was delivered to him the day before his halftime Super Bowl appearance a few years back.
 

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It’s the physicality of it all. There is a big difference for example between teleporting around a VR architectural model in Twinmotion and actually walking through the model on the site it will inhabit at a 1:1 scale and being able to look up and see how it looks against its surroundings.

These are very early days but AR is one day going to change the whole of society in the same way smartphones did 15 years ago.
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Nope. AR solves a problem nobody has.

It's a toy. It will always be a toy.
 
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Are you sure you are thinking of the right year? '58-'60 was hated! '61 Elwood Engel designed. '61-'65 are often regarded as one of the greatest designs ever. I'm a big fan of '64-'65 (I own 1 of each) but most like '61-'61 the best! Here is an example of '61. A friend of mine had a super nice '58 Continental and he sold it to Snoop Dogg of all people. Snoop had it customized and it was delivered to him the day before his halftime Super Bowl appearance a few years back.
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I am definitely thinking of the right year. '61 was the year they got ugly.

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MUCH nicer.
 
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montuori said:
Like this page? https://www.apple.com/business/
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Can you not see?

Microsoft and Linux are fully committed to business at all scales across the globe. This business site at Apple is mostly for small business... very few larger enterprises would dare get burned by Apple on larger scale.

The hardware and software on the PC side with Linux, Windows and others is in a different league completely. Even Microsoft surface devices are better suited...

I use Mac and love it, but if I was running my own business... it wouldn't be Apple, no way.
 
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citysnaps said:
And yet iPod was trounced here back then. It's not about the price.
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I dunno. I thought it was cool but its system requirements sucked. I still owned a couple expensive MP3 players and jumped in as soon as iTunes came to Windows. We owned nearly every version, and I still love the feel/UI of them - not a hot boat anchor falling off my head.

(Then iTunes completely cleared /deleted my entire library when I tried to sync with a new PC on a work trip, and lost a whole bunch of music)
 
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Can you not see?

Microsoft and Linux are fully committed to business at all scales across the globe. This business site at Apple is mostly for small business... very few larger enterprises would dare get burned by Apple on larger scale.

The hardware and software on the PC side with Linux, Windows and others is in a different league completely. Even Microsoft surface devices are better suited...

I use Mac and love it, but if I was running my own business... it wouldn't be Apple, no way.
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I dunno. I work for a big company; the argument against Apple was 1) raw hardware price, 2) application / file format parity, 3) bias against Apple in the real world.

With IBM and others finding that support costs are so much lower - and also a reduced attack surface area vs Windows - the world has warmed to Apple.

I now have both a 15” Air and 16” Pro, and execs use iPads and MB Airs to do real work.
 
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I dunno. I work for a big company; the argument against Apple was 1) raw hardware price, 2) application / file format parity, 3) bias against Apple in the real world.

With IBM and others finding that support costs are so much lower - and also a reduced attack surface area vs Windows - the world has warmed to Apple.

I now have both a 15” Air and 16” Pro, and execs use iPads and MB Airs to do real work.
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What you get for the price in terms of specs with Apple isn't great, especially if you're running memory intensive tasks. You can spec much higher RAM and storage with a PC manufacturer... and business laptops have the option for these to be switched out and changed as required at a far lower cots.

Windows is a super reliable OS for the enterprise area. It's the trash bloatware that most companies add on to monitor, restrict and secure that give windows in enterprise a bad name.

The reduced attack surface area is disappearing... most Apple users, because of the cost. are well off... which makes Apple users a particularly nice target. iOS has opened up a huge number of devices... security is amazing on iOS but there is always a way... and again... those targets are lucrative.
 
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I can just imagine a Tony Stark wannabe spinning things around... hoping, with a pinch, the M2 chip will work its magic and make them a genius 😂
 
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