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I *NEVER* take these seriously. They're always the same hand picked shills...

I'm not knocking the products. But these reviews are just soooo predictable in the praise, every damn year.

Gee — I own an X, I just updated my phone yesterday to iOS 12 - flawless for me. And yea I preordered 2 new Max’ they arrive Friday. The X with iOS 12 is blazingly FAST and smooth and an awesome phone. This is the first time I’m like how much better can these things get? Apple is smart - this is all moving to services and software.... The new Watch will be a blockbuster.

So - what do you think of my review? Am I too a “hand picked shrill”?????

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Gruber makes convincing arguments about the camera improvements, using real world examples that are very satisfying.

I was shocked to see the outdoor photo of Caitlin in the Tom's Guide review. That unnatural warmth and lack of detail is really wrong and makes the Pixel stand out as the easy winner.

With all the "AI" "Bionic" "magic" processing that is going on, it looks like typical overprocessing to me.

Anyone have thoughts on this? i do not have an iPhone X to compare my own results to.
 
I really want to see the Xr camera reviews first. I know all 3 new phones have the bokeh/f-stop/Depth of Field feature, but I wonder if having the telephoto lens makes it work better on the Xs and Xs Max than it does on the Xr? I believe this feature used to require a second lens, so maybe the neural chip (whatever it's called), which is a purely software method of achieving the same result, works to improve the 2-lens method?? Maybe the feature works better on the Xs and Max?

Having a second lens helps building a depth map that enables a much more accurate blur to be applied to the picture.
They can fake bokeh with a single lens as Google does with Pixel 2, but it can't be as accurate.
Anyway if you think most of those pictures will be posted on social media an viewed on smartphones the fake bokeh taken with a single lens may be more than enough. Since "non plus" users didn't have the feature it is a nice addition.
And the camera is the same, so if you don't shot in portrait mode you get the same pictures.
The second lens on the OLED models is used for better portrait effects and just to avoid digital zoom when you shot 2X. I use 2X a lot with my 8+, I'd say 1 out of 4 picture I take are from the telephoto lens, so not the camera I use the most but it is useful to have.

They did NOT mention The Verge review by Nilay Patel, which brought up an interesting point about the Xs Max. The Xs and Xs Max show the same amount of content, in exactly the same way, except that the content on the Xs Max will be larger. That wasn't the case between the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus, or the 7 and 7 Plus, 6s and 6s Plus. The "Plus" models always displayed more content -- text or whatever -- on the screen than the smaller non-Plus models. Not so for the Xs and Xs Max.

If you're on the fence about whether to buy the Xs or Xs Max, then the Xs is probably the better option. Other than battery life, there doesn't seem to be much benefit to the Xs Max's larger screen.

I read the review but I think it is misleading. What Nilay was trying to say is he wanted more stuff on screen as there is more space, while the UI elements are basically the same unless you take advantage of landscape mode.
The UI isn't stretched up, like it happened to apps when iPhone 6 was introduced. Max is fine, but in many apps you won't take advantage of the bigger screen and end up having more blank space.
 
Like Witt the x the max will need time for developers to update apps to fit the content...hardly news worthy
 
I can always count on “Grubes” and his hyperbole to give me a good laugh.

To get a sense of Jon or John Gruber, read this blog entry: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2018/09/17/oral-history-of-infinite-loop

He writes about Steve Jobs as if he is some star struck student, to Gruber Apple is a Disney paradise where all your troubles will be solved, of course Gruber is not on the Apple payroll but he should be getting a monthly check from the Cook team.

If Gruber was forced to read "Small Fry", he would probably need months of therapy to recover, that is if he could believe it, he is the type of writer to get all giddy about a picture showing Steve Jobs high fiving Tim Cook, "look at the enthusiasm in their eyes, you can really tell they both held each other in high regard and realized what they were doing was not just building a smartphone but perhaps changing humanity".

That is the type of quote Gruber is capable of and you can count on him to produce such sycophancy on a weekly basis. And forget about his political takes, zero nuance, and he lets Apple slide on all fronts, the Double Irish tax dodge, Chinese factory suicides, over the years if you check out his blog, the Apple fawning is endless.
 
I read the review but I think it is misleading. What Nilay was trying to say is he wanted more stuff on screen as there is more space, while the UI elements are basically the same unless you take advantage of landscape mode.
The UI isn't stretched up, like it happened to apps when iPhone 6 was introduced. Max is fine, but in many apps you won't take advantage of the bigger screen and end up having more blank space.

Watch the video.

He illustrates pretty clearly that both phones show the same content. He visited the same websites, and had the same apps open, and everything looked exactly the same, but bigger on the Xs Max. Maybe this is good for those with poorer vision, but I was expecting the Max to show more content: more words per line (in an article or website), less scrolling.

That's the easiest example to give, because text on a website would just flow down to the next line on a small screen, or up if a phone's screen was bigger. I can understand apps maybe not adapting to the new, larger canvas size yet, but text-laden websites?
 
Did they highlight as well how all the users can enjoy supplied USB-A cable which they can't connect to any newer Macbook? :D
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Something interesting that I noted in Gruber's interview is that he confirmed with Apple that the iPhone XS wide angle camera has a 35mm equivalent focal length of 26mm vs. 28mm on the iPhone X, which makes it a bit wider to fit more in the frame at once.

He also confirmed that the new sensor is 32% larger, which is actually pretty significant if you know anything about smartphone camera sensors. I have no idea why Apple buried a detail like that which will truly improve image quality in low light conditions.

They also undersold smart HDR if you check out the photos in his review. He has some good real-world examples. It also seems like the neural engine coupled with the ISP has improved fine hair details on the edges of the faux blurred background bokeh in portrait mode, which is something I have complained about in the past.

So if you look at the camera spec sheet you won't notice many improvements, but in reality it's actually a pretty solid upgrade for people who take a lot of photos with their phone. And compared to an iPhone 7 or 6s it's going to blow it away.
It should indeed produce better pictures, but in several galleries available so far the difference comparing to previous generation is very subtle. Bokeh in portrait mode is just awful in many cases. Let's wait for some proper testing, but so far camera didn't convince as expected.
 
As for the Verge and what they say...

No surprise Apple don't want to be associated with Nilay/Verge's take on it after that Build a PC Computer video insanity.

I'm gonna get me a Pepsi Max... I mean an iPhone Max. Here's hoping that videos on it will actually be larger than the Plus screens. I'm pretty sure they will be even when scaled down to hide the gash at the top of the screen.

HAHA... I just read some of that cringey Hypebeast review... All the reviewer does is big note himself.
 
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Watch the video.

He illustrates pretty clearly that both phones show the same content. He visited the same websites, and had the same apps open, and everything looked exactly the same, but bigger on the Xs Max. Maybe this is good for those with poorer vision, but I was expecting the Max to show more content: more words per line (in an article or website), less scrolling.

That's the easiest example to give, because text on a website would just flow down to the next line on a small screen, or up if a phone's screen was bigger. I can understand apps maybe not adapting to the new, larger canvas size yet, but text-laden websites?

They're not exactly the same. Look at the video minute 2:33. There are 4 words on the last line of a post on the Xs and 3 words on the Xs Max.
The reviewer said Max display bigger content because you have more room for bigger pictures in instagram or facebook. The resolution is not dramatically bigger, so you can't expect a huge difference in a web page or reading emails. You do have much more vertical space, but the width is almost the same.

Anyway I can attach you a screenshot of both Xs and Xs Max simulators so you can see what the difference is in Safari, Maps and News.
Xr shows exactly the same content, the main difference is pixel density
 

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Anything is possible even in big cameras... The fact Apple has done it better its just because their that good...

There no psychics to that says cameras cannot do the same.. The fact thy also want it affordable just like Apple wants smart-phones affordable..
I wouldn't trust what any psychics or mediums:D have to say
 
Apple handpicks and highlights the reviews lol

Of course it does. Do you expect them to handpick the ones that say "they just look the same" We know they look the same as the last X version. It is an S update. Changes are internally and require testing. When it comes to reviews, I don't trust the tech reviews anyway. They are all bias. I trust the real word user, once they start getting their hands on a product.
 
You forget Tim Cook, for one.

Look it up.
I tried, says he was an industrial designer and his first job at IBM was in the PC division.
So not an EE/software developer.
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Gee — I own an X, I just updated my phone yesterday to iOS 12 - flawless for me. And yea I preordered 2 new Max’ they arrive Friday. The X with iOS 12 is blazingly FAST and smooth and an awesome phone. This is the first time I’m like how much better can these things get? Apple is smart - this is all moving to services and software.... The new Watch will be a blockbuster.

So - what do you think of my review? Am I too a “hand picked shrill”?????

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yup, you sound high pitched/piercing to me
 
It's like when you see a really crappy movie and the studio have cherrypicked a word from an otherwise underwhelming review.
 
Watch the video.

He illustrates pretty clearly that both phones show the same content. He visited the same websites, and had the same apps open, and everything looked exactly the same, but bigger on the Xs Max. Maybe this is good for those with poorer vision, but I was expecting the Max to show more content: more words per line (in an article or website), less scrolling.

That's the easiest example to give, because text on a website would just flow down to the next line on a small screen, or up if a phone's screen was bigger. I can understand apps maybe not adapting to the new, larger canvas size yet, but text-laden websites?
The display of the XS Max can display more content; it’s 414 points wide (in portrait) whereas the XS is 375 points. So the XS is about 10% wider.

Interestingly, the XR is also 414 points wide, so it will show the same content as the Max, just smaller. Both the XR and the XS Max have the enhanced landscape viewing mode like the Plus models.
 
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For a company that pushes their camera features so hard, I find it ridiculous that you can’t even change the camera settings in the app.

There's literally nothing in the settings app for Camera you'd change during a photo.It's basically Grid on or off, and video record quality, and whether or not you want to use the HEVC formats or not.

I agree that it would great to have some proper camera controls, specifically ISO, Shutter Speed and Aperture within the Camera app. Frankly, I use it as point and shoot so it's not essential - I use my XT2 when I want more control and much better photos.
 
Friendly advice: If you are using a 2016 or older device and still need to upgrade and remain in iOS, get an iPhone X instead, while they're in stock (as apple very conveniently "killed" it). The fast charger will still be missing from the package, but at least you will get the headphone jack adapter (which is also missing from this year's package).

P.S. Before the usual apologists rush in, 9to5mac recently stated that this headphone jack adapter is Best Buy's best selling iPhone accessory (source).
Specifically, over the past two years the 3.5mm to Lightning adapter and 3.3-foot USB-C to Lightning cable have been Best Buy’s most popular Apple branded items.

Imagine that, huh ?
 
I think its normal for companies to showcase positive stories, and try to take away focus on the less good ones . Its not just Apple.

Like the dude from youtube "Unbox Therapy", he had a "dont buy the iPhone X" banner on his youtube X review last year, he did not understand why he didnt get an invite to the reveal this year. what a surprise (not). No one would invite the people who dislike like their company or products in the first place. If i had a company i would never invite all the haters, it wouldnt make sense. Theres no business case in that. Its common sense. If you are brave and believe you have a good product, you invite neutral press and company-pro people. definately not the haters.
I agree and I would not invite those who purposely hate for no reason. However, as a reviewer, he/she must be objective in reviewing any products as consumers don't have the time and/or money to buy and compare products. We, the consumers, rely on getting getting information from objective reviews or wait to read feedbacks from those who have sufficient time to use their new phones. I would like to hear users compare their new and old phones and hear what they like and didn't like as well as any issue encountered. Again, a consumer's review could be objective or subjective but I would have to filter out which may seem legit or not legit complaints.
 
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The problem with the iphones and iOS is that its boring. Need PIP, widgets and stylus support like the Note series to spice things up, nobody cares about animoji’s.

A lot of people are happy with iPhone's as is, that's why they are the best selling phones. I agree that there could be some software features added (PIP mainly, as we already have widgets), but they made the choice to focus on performance for all models, including models from 5 years ago. This was a solid move on their part and is a big reason why people stick with Apple, long term support. I don't use Animoji's myself, but I would imagine they are popular with the youth, much more so than a stylus, which hasn't made the Note a big seller. In the end, use what works best for the individual. And for many, that's iOS.
 
The display of the XS Max can display more content; it’s 414 points wide (in portrait) whereas the XS is 375 points. So the XS is about 10% wider.

Interestingly, the XR is also 414 points wide, so it will show the same content as the Max, just smaller. Both the XR and the XS Max have the enhanced landscape viewing mode like the Plus models.

The XR shows the same content as the Xs Max, it is smaller but also in lower res as it is a 2X retina, not a 3X like the Xs Max and 8+
 
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I’m also a trained photographer. Been shooting professionally for 18 years, 10 years as an amateur before that. You can’t control lights in spontaneous situations. The only place where you have real control over light is in a studio.

There’s a real issue with reflections on the front glass of the iPhone since I believe the iPhone 6. It became a serious problem with the iPhone X. This is caused by a gap between the front glass and the lens. A lens alone would cause lens flare which is normal. Reflections on the other hand ruin photos. Nighttime video in a city with cars and other bright lights can become unusable pretty quickly.

Here’s a good demonstration that I found:


This is of course a forced example to make the problem clear but it does pop up regularly in non staged situations.

Here’s a real world demonstration. The lights on the dock reflect in the sky like a runway.

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This is not normal lens behaviour. It’s a design defect that Apple has ignored because a front glass cover is the most efficient way to build water protection for the phone. To prevent this, they’d have to build the lens elements into the case itself. You’d have a curved lens on the outside, not a flat cover glass. Reflections would not occur. Presumably, this would be more expensive to build at scale since the case and the camera components come from different manufactures.

I wonder if a lens coating would fix this. That’s why I ask if the Xs had solved it.

EDIT: there’s a whole MacRumors thread on this:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/huge-defect-with-the-camera-extreme-lens-flare.2085341/

As expected, many people don’t understand the difference between lens flare which is normal and reflections which are not.

Very well explained with great examples. Make such a change to read a useful comment on here.
 
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Happy for all you phablet fan boys. But gotta say...I'm loving my new iPhone SE. Classic form factor with HP jack and home button. Bigger and faster than my 4S.
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I'm upgrading from the SE to the Xs. I'll let you know if I think it's worth it.
 
Pretty sure apple resets the star ratings for all apps following a new version release.
That wasn’t always the case. Not everyone updates the iOS, too, so I’d think prior ratings should still show, unless now only reviews are shown restive to the iOS you’re on?
 
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