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Apple Highlights Low Fragmentation Among iOS Devices in Direct Jab at Android
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Your analogy makes no sense. If you never beat your wife, you would choose the last option, always. You wouldn't say "hmmm...well they do have a ton of options for yes, so maybe I should pick one of those..."
K. So you don't have anything disputing it. Thanks.
Sidenote: This exact survery was cited earlier in this thread as an example of why fragmentation isn't a big deal because only 25% thought it was a huge problem. Nary a soul was trying to debunk it then.
Now that the other side of the argument is being presented, we're getting deluged with conspiracy theories, complaints about invalidation because of old data (when newer data isn't available) and how it's loaded because for reasons unknown to anyone, you'd be forced to pick an option even if it doesn't apply to you.
Very telling.
What conspiracy theories? What loaded argument? Do you really read what other write? What the heck to do your post with the things I have said?
The only ****ing thing I have said is that this survey is two years old and the situation is totally different, the API's are different, the model Android has with services updates, app updates is different.
If you want to believe that the survey still applies, perfect, believe it, voonyx. Yes, very telling
read the thread.
And the only thing I said it's you can't just dismiss a survey because it's two years old if you don't have more recent data. That makes no sense because all you're doing is speculating. You must be joking, right?
Also please provide reasons why the "different APIs" have reduced fragmentation.
Yes, I will believe the data and not some guy on an internet forum who's speculating, thanks.
Talking about something is different than making it a problem, I was just trying to convey my view. Personally I don't give a hoot, I have an iPhone since 2009.
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Yawn. Apple forces low fragmentation through planned device obsolescence.
I'd probably still be using my iPhone 3G more, but Apple killed its performance with their iOS 4 update, less than 2 years after it's release. Then after acknowledging the problem, Apple stopped supporting the device without fixing the issue - while I was still under contract. People who complained to Apple were encouraged to get a newer phone. Basically Apple killed off the bulk of their OS 4 users, millions of people, with that move.
Meanwhile my Android devices work fine. Even though my phone isn't hugely supported by the manufacturer and runs an "older" OS version, it still gets occasional updates and I haven't had an issue with app support. Through 3rd party developer networks I can put the latest OS on it if I want to root it.
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The differences between Android 2.3 and 4.x are currently not that big. 3.x was basically Android for tablets and 4.x merged the phone and tablet branches of the OS.
The next big fragmentation of Android is not going to be over OS version numbers but over Google Play Services which Google has factored out of the OS, and Google plans to make the core of their licensed functionality.
I'd probably still be using my iPhone 3G more, but Apple killed its performance with their iOS 4 update, less than 2 years after it's release. Then after acknowledging the problem, Apple stopped supporting the device without fixing the issue - while I was still under contract. People who complained to Apple were encouraged to get a newer phone. Basically Apple killed off the bulk of their OS 4 users, millions of people, with that move.
Meanwhile my Android devices work fine. Even though my phone isn't hugely supported by the manufacturer and runs an "older" OS version, it still gets occasional updates and I haven't had an issue with app support. Through 3rd party developer networks I can put the latest OS on it if I want to root it.
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The differences between Android 2.3 and 4.x are currently not that big. 3.x was basically Android for tablets and 4.x merged the phone and tablet branches of the OS.
The next big fragmentation of Android is not going to be over OS version numbers but over Google Play Services which Google has factored out of the OS, and Google plans to make the core of their licensed functionality.
Hu?
Android 4.0 brought the Holo theme and thousands of improvements that made Android work much better, look much better and let it run a much better browser.
It is probably the most important new version of Android since... well, the release of Android in 2008.
It was the moment Steve Jobs talked about when he said that iPhone was 5 years ahead of its time.
Android 1 to 2.3 may have had some features earlier than iOS, but it was all more of a regular desktop operating system ported to mobile, ignoring the requirements a mobile operating system had, for example basic usability or battery life.
Hey, Android 2.3 didn't even have a built in menu to see how much traffic you had used that month.
Android 4.0 was the first really advanced version of Android, the first that had a comparable usability to the 2007 iPhoneOS, with greatly decreased stuttering of screen contents (but not yet as good as the iPhone was since 2007 and Windows Phone 7 from 2010).
Android 4.0 is the most important version of Android and Android 2.3 is just bad in comparison.
That's some mind-bending logic there.
Only if you ignore the security, performance, and API improvements.
So it's better to not get an update at all than to be missing a couple features? Huh.
And, as pointed out many times in the thread, these charts are for developers. The point is the fragmentation of the development platform. And in that context, it's not misleading at all.
Are you kidding? The difference between gingerbread and jb is night and day. I still remember gingerbread on my Motorola droid and that was a custom Rom created by some great devs and it was a hunk of absolute junk.
There are literally hundreds if not thousands of backend differences between jb and gb. JB is what literally made android on par with ios as far as fluidity, stability and usability.
Very hard to take you seriously when you say there's not that big of a difference between the two.
For the most part he is correct.
Yes, keep telling yourself that. In the end, you will believe it.
I don't know much about Android, let alone the feature list of Gingerbread Man vs. iOS 7, but considering this little quip has been thrown out twice now without any back up statements to support it, I have to wonder...
Not sure which statement you are asking to be backed up.
I'm hoping it's obvious to most posters that Android 2.3 doesn't have all the features of iOS 7.
Both.
From what I understand of Gingerbread, it had tons of useful features iOS didn't have (and maybe still doesn't). What it lacked was coherence and polish, which made all these useful features more difficult to use.
Both.
Easy enough to show that Android 2.3 doesn't have all the features of iOS 7.
Check the Android Version History on Wikipedia. Look at all the features introduced after 2.3. Find one that is present in iOS 7.
Sure. But that implies coherence and polish aren't features.
Honestly, who is the 1% on an OS older than 6? Either get a new device or upgrade. Its not safe to live in the stone age.
I am! I am! 5.1.1 jail broken. Works just fine on my IP4
...hmm. Well, unless things change, I still can't set default apps in iOS7. So that's one. I'll look for more later, when I'm not feeling so lazy.
Sure. But that implies coherence and polish aren't features.
Not at all. Coherence and polish are arguably among the most important features of an OS. They bring everything together into one unified whole and makes it all feel intuitive. But you can still have more features overall while lacking a level of polish. They just require more input and know-how from the end user to use effectively.
...hmm. Well, unless things change, I still can't set default apps in iOS7. So that's one. I'll look for more later, when I'm not feeling so lazy.
The question wasn't whether Android 2.3 contains features not in iOS 7. That's a given.The question was whether Android 2.3 contains all the features of iOS 7. That's just silly.
Okay? That supports my point. Again, see the statement that I was rebutting.
I came into this conversation late and commented on those two quips you and whatshisface made. I haven't even read back through the thread yet.
Just ignore me.
Just ignore me.
