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Apple Highlights Spatial Gaming on Vision Pro
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I will happily ridicule the person who spends up to $5k to watch a video of the Beast instead of paying a few hundred to visit the park and experience it in Real Life! Real Life, not some artificial simulation. And that’s why we ridicule the platform. But go ahead and bury your head in this over weight, over priced toy. looking quite ridiculous while you do so.
I suppose applying a new name (spatial) to already existing approaches (AR/MR) might qualify as “redefining” from Apple’s perspective 😁
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How funny that people like you position this as an extreme either-or thing... such as either go ride The Beast in Cincinnati in person OR take a virtual ride... as if there is no way to do BOTH if one buys Vpro. I happen to have lived in that town and ridden that ride in person hundreds of times. Now I live far from there but wouldn't mind a virtual ride from time to time to recall the ride a little more clearly than only watching a 2D video.
And yes, I could spend a few hundred to fly there and have another ride in person (and will sooner or later), and then a few hundred more to go swim with those turtles and a few thousand to go sit on that beach, and $9K or more to attend that Super Bowl, and $40K to sit courtside at one NBA playoff game, and $400K+ to take a trip to space, and a few million to perhaps get a shot at a little time on the moon, etc... OR... in lieu of having the funds to do everything I might like to do, I pick & choose those things I can do in person without having to miss out on some others that are just too far, too expensive, etc. By mixing some actual reality experiences with some virtual ones, I can most closely make it seem like I was also able to fit in the latter with the former.
You are 100% right that a VR experience will not be as rich as the "being there" experience but pretty much nobody is able to "be there" at every possible thing they would like to do, when they would like to do it. That seems to have some tangible value to me vs.- say- NOT doing some things at all because I just can't quite get there... or afford to get to all such places... or I feel the sentimental itch to ride "The Beast" on Feb 16 but KI isn't open until late Spring... so I "next best thing" it for now.
It's also hilarious how each pessimist narrows in on any one use as if that is the sole reason to consider this tech... such as this insinuation that one might buy Vpro only to take a virtual ride on one roller coaster and/or watch only ONE 360º VR video with it (vs. the thousands of such videos online + all of the other apps that also run on it) for that "$5K" expense. Countless millions of people shell out up to 45% of Vpro pricing to buy iPhone... and I would bet it all that not one does so just to make a single phone call.
There are abundant times where just about everyone has time to themselves. To get much real work done on a laptop, one generally needs to focus. They may not be blocking off the world around them with a physical barrier but they might as well be doing so to get the focus they need to get whatever it is done well. Yes, that laptop screen may not be on their face but they are just as locked in with a screen on their lap... or on the smaller screen in their hand. When one buys Vpro, they are NOT committing to live in it 24:7 or 16:7- that's not even possible due to a battery life of 2-2.5 hours or so for those who might want to try. Instead, it's a "use it when they want/need it, put it away when they don't" proposition for most... very much like how people use a laptop or iPad.
Anyone overly concerned with what strangers think of them and/or in a social setting where interaction with others is important will very likely NOT use it in such situations... just as they do with a laptop or iDevice in the very same settings. And when they are back to being solo and perhaps needing/wanting a bigger screen to get some things done or entertain themselves, they can choose this type of screen vs. a tiny laptop or iDevice screen. Do they have no such choice? Of course they have choices. It slips OFF their head at least as easy as it slips on. It's not permanently affixed/glued/bolted on. One can use any tech- and focus up to 100% of their attention on that use- and then not use the same tech as they so please. And that's each persons business vs. strangers with strong opinions.
There are MANY uses for this particular tech. Vpro buyers who buy & keep are keeping because it does some things for them they value more than whatever they paid for it... much as people opt to have or not have laptops, tablets, iPhone, Watch, Mac Pro, $1000 monitor stands, $800 wheels, $2200 (for) 8TB SSD, $160K gen 1 iPhone in box, $400K Apple II, $2M Action Comics #1, up to hundreds of thousands in any given NFT, $9K or more for a ticket to a single football game, $40K for a single courtside seat to one basketball game, >$100K for a vehicle that gets them to places no better than one that might cost them $10K, hundreds of thousands-to-millions for a "second home" when they can only physically be in one home at any given time, $60K+ for a traditional watch that is not as accurate as a $3 Timex, up to millions for a boat that will very likely be tied to a dock far, far, FARRRRRRRR more than they will actually be boating on it, etc. To each his own and more power to those who buy whatever they like and enjoy... in spite of what total strangers they'll never meet or know think about the very same product(s) or what it costs.
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Honestly, I'm thinking about getting one now, was not that interested in it before. OTOH, tried one and it was far from as comfortable as my PSVR1, so maybe I'll wait for the Quest 4.
The stock head strap is terrible. I used it for a day and ordered a Bobo VR M3 Pro. $49 and has a spare battery on the back that you can either use or leave off the head strap.
Simple now to put on the Quest 3. Just lay it over your head, give three half-turns on the adjuster in the back and all the weight is off your face and you can use it for hours.
Also ordered prescription lens inserts for $49. Simply clicked them in place and now I'm glasses-free with perfect clarity.
So now it's a $599 Quest 3, but it's customized for my vision and comfort and a joy to use.
Quests dont have a lot of truly serious games as they’re underpowered for it but it’s at least enough for some impressive vr experiences . With apples focus in health with other products I’m shocked they haven’t at least tapped into the workout market with this thing
The answer is Apple Arcade. I got a 3-month trial before but I didn't even want to try.
After a few days, he is as productive as he was using only his desktop computer. No one expects him to be more productive: that isn't the goal. The main goal was providing more screen space. VisionPro makes this happen. His normal set up is a fully loaded Intel Mac Pro with two 4k displays. So his setup is anything but antiquated.
The main point is that he is able to be productive in a normal office environment which is what we were hoping for. The VisionPro is not only for consumption, it can be used for productive tasks in an office environment where writing reports, looking at architectural drawings, and emailing customers is routine. It's not a toy or just a new way to watch movies. It's an actual tool that people can use in the real world. Impressive for Apple's first attempt.
I think VisionPro will be like the LaserWriter. It will redefine how people work.
Been using Steam Link with my Mac Pro 5,1 running Windows 11 and RX5800XXT and the AVP. Getting locked 60fps at 1080p and GPU temps and CPU usage are way down compared to gaming with my monitor and the avp is not doing the heavy lifting and staying cool. It is surprising to me how well it works. Cyberpunk and Resident Evil 4 run great, sure it doesn't look nearly as good as my 4k Oled but I can play on such a huge screen. If Steam releases a AVP steam link app it could be even better.
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