Same goes for TV Shows and Movies. Ever since the first AppleTV, I've purchased countless movies and shows. I have done reruns on my favorite shows multiple times (Star Trek!!!). But to my complete surprise, when a content provider's contract with Apple expires, those purchases are no longer available to re-watch.
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Apple Hit With $5 Billion Class Action Lawsuit Over eBooks Availability
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They Need to do this for music and movies as well. They also need to go after amazon for this.
Perhaps there should be legislation banning non-permanent licensing of digital content without calling it 'renting'. Only paying for a license for digital works in perpetuity, for a specified user, should be called 'buying'.
Why you feel the need to defend greedy companies?
Giving you an offline copy, that can always be used without connecting to a server, should be called buying. But it sounds like Apple did that here. The users decided to delete the file, and encountered the problem when they went to redownloaded it.
I agree there should be better language around what it means to delete a file from Books (and other media apps) or factory reset a device and the potential consequences from doing so. It's buried in the terms of service but should be clearly mentioned when they actually go to delete the file.
So they can take your movies away? Nobody downloads anything these days. The movies I bought from TV store are not permanent?
I didn’t know this. I recently started buying movies from the store, I won’t buy anything again then. I thought it was like the apps that once you download them they are yours even if they are delisted
Fun fact: When you buy any medium, you only own the medium and not the content. It might be your CD, but they're not your songs.
Seems like a really bad contract then, good thing they are getting sued. Why this doesn’t happen to apps? Even if they get delisted you can always download it
It's completely irrelevant that you're making absolutely terrible comparisons? Um, ok.
That is a situation where I think you would be more than justified downloading said episodes elsewhere and keeping them to watch whenever you see fit.
I never compared anything you brought it up unprompted. It’s unhealthy, please I’m concerned for you.
Sure, but on a practical level they can't exactly go around rounding up millions of copies of a CD or a book because some corporate IP portfolio changed hands. So it's kind of moot with physical media, thank god.
What we are seeing with digital media is these corporations' wet dream: they can set egregious terms you have no choice but to agree to if you want to access the content at all. Why do you think they all have such a hard-on for "discless" game consoles for instance?
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That may be, but the point is that it can't be "taken away from you".
The result is that you functionally do "own it forever", which is the expectation when one "buys something".
What?
There is a big difference if you purchase a book from a bookstore 9.99 then you own that product
However if you purchase the same book at an e store for 9.99 then you don’t own it out right
However that shouldn’t be right
I understand Apple has nothing to gain by this and only does this as a result of their contract with the publishers.
But I would expect them to defend customer rights on their store. Deleting from existing book shelves is just too much. At the least store it in the icloud account of the user. They purchased it.
Exactly if you’re paying for something like a book then it shouldn’t be allowed to get removed from your library after you have paid for it.
This will be another one of those threads defending a monolithic tech giant from denying them ownership over their purchases, won’t it?
Given I can happily load MP3 files brought from iTunes onto other devices or burn them to CD, there is no reason I should not be able to extract PDF or epub files from iBooks for the same purposes.
Given I can happily load MP3 files brought from iTunes onto other devices or burn them to CD, there is no reason I should not be able to extract PDF or epub files from iBooks for the same purposes.
Or give warning that such and such licensing is ending, and giving a chance for us to download the media.
This is another case of lawyers looking for bogus reasons to sue Apple. Everything about this is in the TOS that users agree to. If you want to mad about the situation, then be mad at the publishers. They are the one’s who pull the license, not Apple. I know it is fashionable to blame big tech for the world’s ills, but it isn’t big tech. It is people. Technology only allows people to magnify their behaviors. In this case, publishers are using the technology provided by Apple, Adobe, Amazon, Google, etc. to implement what they always maintained were there rights. Blame the publishers, not tech. Change the laws if you don’t like it.
Allegedly, when you buy a movie, or a song - you don't buy the media - you purchased the LICENSE to privately play that work, for private consumption (not PUBLIC display). You may watch it as many times as you wish, in a private venue. The artists were paid.
This seems like theft to me, whether Apple renews the license or not, is not the issue. YOU paid the license, and there were no terms as to when that license would be revoked.
This seems like theft to me, whether Apple renews the license or not, is not the issue. YOU paid the license, and there were no terms as to when that license would be revoked.