yeah, a stupid company that only had $2 billion in revenue last year, and sells real products.
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Apple Hit With $634 Million Verdict in Apple Watch Blood Oxygen Patent Lawsuit
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IF they are, then apple is also a large patent troll
OR do you not understnad the meaning of words?
even if hte patent expires, apple still has to front up for the period they infringed
Patent lawsuits have gotten pretty ridiculous. Many patents today are so overly broad that you practically need a legal team just to make sure you didn’t accidentally invent or use something that someone already claimed.
For example, RED was granted a patent on recording compressed RAW internally on a digital camera, this is something you’d think shouldn’t even be patentable. Other famously questionable patents include Amazon’s ‘1-Click’ ordering and Apple’s design patent on rounded phone corners.
They technically are a medical devices company in part at least. The moment they decided to introduce the ECG feature, it was required to be licenced.
In fact you’ll notice that there are several software features that also required licensing.
https://health-products.canada.ca/mdall-limh/information?companyId=145169&lang=eng
So yes, they already are a medical devices company. It just depends on how many more of these health related features get branded as just “wellness” like the SpO2 sensor, or if under certain regulations by virtue of hardware or software just existing, requiring regulatory approval.
you mentioned you planned to buy an MBA so yeah, that's going towards funding Apple's bills.
So you accept Masimo has an active patent, albeit an expiring one and you still call them a troll? Even 30 seconds of google, or a passing interest in this case will tell you they still actively produce products related that. Being such a blind defender of Apple without even taking a cursory glance at what you're talking about says everything. Apple can afford it, and old mate Cook will still pass the expense on to customers anyway regardless. Rinse and repeat the next time they do it, which they undoubtedly will.
No. Companies like Apple develop their own technology that perform a similar function. The other company alleges violation to assert a monopoly for the space. In this case, Apple’s tech doesn’t violate. If this were 40 years ago, before the US Govt punted patent appraisal to the courts, this case wouldn’t have made it out of review.
This whole thing might have actually been a play to take over Masimo. At the time they would have picked up the medical tech and Sound United if they had won the suit. Sound United has since been spun off. Imagine Apple getting ahold of the likes of Marantz and Denon for home audio.
Why can't they just license Masimo IP and offer us Apple customers A TRUE AND HONEST 1000+ Datapoints per Day SpO2 graph ?? Would be also helpful for detecting diseases and conduct large studies.
The physics of measuring SpO2 and the routines for analysing the output of a SpO2 monitor aren't exactly rocket science, nor are measuring and analysing heart trace parameters. It is fairly straightforward and frankly obvious. A hobbyist could build something comparable I am sure. Honestly I think the US should stop patenting medicines, medical treatments, medical devices and medical algorithms and patent only the way medicines and devices are manufactured. That would drive competition to reduce prices through more efficient production rather than handing companies functional monopolies over medical necessities. Just my two cents.
You sound like an upset stock holder. This lawsuit is the least of Apple's problems right now.
I own zero Apple stock and own plenty of Apple competitor stock (because AI). Try again.
I think you mean they have active products on technology they copied from the inventor, Dr. Takuo Aoyagi (who did so in 1974) and then hastily built an Apple Watch clone to apply their “self-developed” technology to the same form factor…
It’s a shady lawsuit. And that amount is absurd.
Then why you care about a lawsuit that doesn't impact you? 634 million is a drop in the bucket for Apple!
People who are advocating for higher price tags on Apple products negatively affects me as an Apple consumer? Why do you think owning stocks is the only way people are affected by increasing product costs? Ridiculous.
Masimo’s patents aren’t FRAND, so they weren’t obligated to price a license "fair and reasonably". What’s always struck me though is that I’ve never seen a single comment from Joe Kiani offering Apple a licensing deal (for that matter, even using the word "licensing"). He talks about “improving their product,” “honest dialogue,” and “win-win settlements,” but never licensing terms. That doesn’t sound like someone pushing for a standard royalty arrangement.
If he had offered one at a sane price, Apple probably would have taken it. After all, they license tech constantly. Instead, the whole thing moved into the courts, where most of Masimo’s asserted patents ended up invalidated. I assume Apple had experts telling them that would happen, and I’m sure Masimo had the same warnings.
This is why I think (I've read it from others as well) Kiani was after something bigger than a royalty, a manufacturing/development partnership, or even getting Apple interested in acquiring Masimo. Either way, it would have been personally lucrative for him and opened a massive new market for the company.
So they fought it out legally, which is exactly what companies are supposed to do when they disagree on IP. If you think Masimo’s patent is valid, this verdict should make you happy and stand as an example of what courts are supposed to do. Apple will appeal (probably), and the damages will may come down. Apple can show there was no "significant" (because who can define "significant") event-driven sales drop when blood oxygen was removed, which speaks to the actual market value of the patent.