idk, i get the feeling that many people are emotionally involved at this point and it's fogging some of their view/logic that they can normally use..
or- saying this in a different way.... for those of you that joined the program when you got the 6s.. why did you join it?
I had been purchasing my phones unlocked from the beginning. I travel quite a bit overseas and when I'm going to be out of the country for more than a few days it's usually more convenient and cheaper to slip in a local SIM for data and whatnot.
So when they came out with the 6s I was ready to do as I had always done and buy it outright when I heard about the IUP. Since I buy Apple Care anyway, it was basically a 0% loan for 12 months And since I had no reason to think I wouldn't also be getting the iPhone 7, 7s, 8, etc, etc it seemed to simply be a question of whether or not I could put $2K to work more efficiently (my wife also has an iPhone). I was willing to jump on the upgrade hamster wheel for Apple since I was I was already doing it.
They also made it sound like it would be a much more straightforward process. I wasn't really expecting any special treatment in terms of being allocated a phone during launch but I figured since I was in the "program" that they would streamline the process a bit. Not sure how they would streamline it, but it was made to sound like this was the best way to upgrade to the newest version every year and, it would seem to make sense to that Apple would do something.
was it to be given a seat in iPhone 7 batch#1? or was it another reason(s)?
like, i think most people would of done it for other reasons but now that 7 is out, the original reasons have been fogged out and now this topic is the main reason.
No, I think you're confusing two different things here. It's on me to get up and midnight and make sure that I get my place in line. I didn't really expect Apple to circumvent that. Sure, it would have been nice but it wasn't expected and I haven't really heard any of the other IUP people saying that they had that expectation.
And you're right, the ship has sailed on being one of the first to get the new iPhone regardless of what time you attempted to order last week.
One of the main problems is that as of this moment, all anybody in the IUP has is a promise from someone at Apple that they'll try to help them out. As far as I know, there are no confirmed ship dates for any IUP people.
And as I've said previously, part of my frustration in this is that if I didn't do iOS programming as a hobby I probably wouldn't read MacRumors as frequently as I do. And I wouldn't have seen that I was not the only one. My local area was not some fluke. This happened on a grand scale.
And that's all fine and dandy that I found out, but what about all the other people who don't read Mac Rumors or other Apple sites? They're totally getting hosed. The folks here are able to call into Apple and speak to someone who pretends to sympathize with them but everyone else has no idea. They're just going to come back on Sept 17th as they were told to do and spend days, weeks, or months trying to get their phone.
And I look at that and think, if you don't call Apple on that now, you could be the guy who doesn't know the next time. Maybe there's a problem with the new Macbooks but Apple doesn't tell anybody and only fixes computers for the people who scream the loudest.
The other reason to be frustrated is that the IUP is only a good deal if you can upgrade every 12 months. If your IUP contract lasts 13 months then it becomes less valuable. And if waiting an extra month causes you to start your next 2 year IUP contract a month later, you either have to wait an extra month next year or pay an extra month next year to get your phone in Sept. Again, this make the program far less cost effective than how they pitched it. And when you factor in the fact that they specifically engineered it as to prevent a large number of people from being able to reserve phones for ship dates on or near the launch date it just seems fraudulent.
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also, fwiw.. this lawsuit has class action status, yes.. but as far as we know (well, me at least), there is still just the one guy suing apple..
like, this case is possibly very small or a very small nuisance for apple and it just seems bigger to people reading the headline.. "hit with class action lawsuit !1" (and the like).
And that's fine by me as well. I don't expect to get anything out of the lawsuit but I do hope that the filing of the lawsuit brings about enough negative publicity that it becomes more cost effective for Apple to fix their program than to try to shut up those complaining the loudest with promises of Apple doing everything they can to get the complainers a phone asap.
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is that not going to happen?
i don't think 'annually' means exactly 365 days.. and if it did, there's still about a week and a half from now until we hit the earliest annual mark..
don't you think, at the very least, you should wait until your exactly_12_month term has lapsed prior to getting all worked up?
in one month, is this hoopla even going to be a thing? or, nobody will care anymore?
No, it does not mean exactly 365 days. I never said it did. But I think the vast majority of people who joined the program, as well as the media (go and check media writeups of the program from last year) all assumed it to be roughly about one year, give a few days or a week.
But that's not the point. And to be honest, I don't understand any of your points. You just seem to keep looking for any little point to nitpick what someone has said like you're doing here.
Personally, I have chosen not to wait. I bought out my IUP contract from Citizen's and will sell my phone. Having seen how corrupted the IUP is, I have zero desire to be subject to Apple's whims in the future. It's been 5 days since this thing started and Apple has yet to publicly acknowledge it and reach out to all of the IUP people who got screwed. They're trying to mitigate the damage and put out the fires and it's just much easier to get out of the building than it is to wait for Apple to figure out how to sell their merchandise in a fair manner.
The only advantage to me was that Apple was offering 0% loans. I was willing to accept some of the time-based risks associated with that but I'm not willing to allow Apple to abuse the terms in the contract to my detriment.
