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Regulators and complainants here are like my friend Tony. The moment you’ve got a £20 note in your pocket he can smell it and will try and obtain it. This is mostly because it’s an injustice that I earned it and he didn’t. Rather than build a viable competing income source some people think success is merely a justification to redistribute funds or regulate the income.

Instead of regulating this, perhaps European companies should have stopped messing around back in the day and built a viable alternative. But no, they didn’t. Where where you Nokia, Ericsson? Oh wait you were selling out while Symbian was burning, much like your big brother mega corporation Philips did in the 90s and 00s. Where were the European regulators then?

So what we have here is someone regulating away because they took the road to the bottom rather than the road to the top and are pissy that they cut themselves out of the market controls in the process.

Of course lots of old men in Europe got to retire with nice things. And that’s the reality.

This isn’t about the App Store or cuts, it’s about control and manipulation after the same people sold out already.

(ex Philips employee for ref)

This isn’t the kingdom of Netherlands bringing the case.
 
What’s happening on The Netherlands? Is like they are communists now, fighting the evil capitalism. They are going after the supermarkets as well? Easily a 40-60% overcharge from the producer to the aisles…
This is one group of capitalists complaining that another group is more successful and wants a cut.

Smells like mafia to me but propped up by the state.

Why the hell would you want to or even consider risking building a business in that regulatory climate?
 
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This isn’t the kingdom of Netherlands bringing the case.
I am aware of that.

This is an independent group which is suing because they accuse apple of being a cartel, which it’s not. It’s one singular company building tangible hardware and a supply chain.

The outcome of this is that it will be leveraged to exploitation. I guarantee it. Always dig into the backgrounds of the committee on these claims quangos. There is secondary interest always. The reason they are bringing the claim there is perceived legislative weakness.
 
? I love it. ????
And you know what? This is just the start, the Netherlands is just one of the first countries starting the move against Apple, more will follow soon, even the U.S will follow. On top there will be Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act. Finally justice!
 
I always joke about Apple pulling out of these countries but for real, they may have to pull out of these countries. Anyone who thinks this is legit is wrong. This is about blood-sucking, parasitic lawyers and politicians going after Apple for their own gain... and nothing more. Regardless of how you feel about Apple, it would be wrong of them to stand down and give in. There's a bigger fight to be won here.
 
What’s happening on The Netherlands? Is like they are communists now, fighting the evil capitalism. They are going after the supermarkets as well? Easily a 40-60% overcharge from the producer to the aisles…
Just because some independent Dutch organization sues Apple, you say it is like all Dutch people are communists?? I’m sure Will Smith would smack you for this, if he were Dutch…
 
What’s happening on The Netherlands? Is like they are communists now, fighting the evil capitalism. They are going after the supermarkets as well? Easily a 40-60% overcharge from the producer to the aisles…
so now even NL is communist :)... LOL you really don't value even your best allies even these days when Washington's Next ;)... so sad to see people like you. so sad that you always are the loudest. Apple = good, use Android. democracy = good, you're a communist (take a look at your government, think some and tell me where your democracy is democracy ;) or why is it better than ANYTHING else (even North Korea)... disclaimer: coming from a country with a terrible history I loathe communism too). those who don't agree, silence them. 1984 but with voluntary monkeys.
 
Just because some independent Dutch organization sues Apple, you say it is like all Dutch people are communists?? I’m sure Will Smith would smack you for this, if he were Dutch…
The state is also suing for the dating apps…
Europe as a whole has sadly being turning to the left in the last years. And is fair to think that politicians are elected according to people’s choice’s.
 
It's so easy to go after the tech industry and Apple for their retail fee structure, but governments won't go after other sectors.

How about going after the oil and gas industry, that is basically a cartel. What about the banking industry in the US and the crappy fees they charge for everything? Why is it that I am still charged to use an ATM at one bank and then charged an additional fee by my bank when using that ATM? They are all part of the same banking systems. So much for interoperability.

And how about the eyeglass industry. Ever wonder why eyeglasses you buy are so ungodly expensive? Just look to the fact that one company controls over 90% of the market. Luxottica owns almost every brand of eyeglasses and sunglasses, which means they control the price in which it sells.
 
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If EU leaders would like to investigate overchanging from Apple, they would be best advised to investigate how Apple comes up with the pricing ladder for memory and storage upgrades.
And while they are at it, why not investigate how car companies price their options.

Apple is free to charge whatever they want for memory and SSD. No, I don’t like Apple’s RAM pricing either, but I don’t have to buy.

So: buy something else, there are dozens or hundreds of alternatives for pretty much each product that Apple sells.

By the way: EU is thinking of banning non-upgradeable memory in laptops, for “sustainability”.

That will also largely destroy the performance per watt advantage of Apple’s SoC approach. Enjoy it while you can. Back to pre-Apple Silicon laptops.

Electronics are easy to recycle. How you manufacture and how much power it draws during use is much more important than being able to upgrade the RAM which nearly no one does, even if possible.
 
Can we sue Amazon, they charge too much for shipping. And then they lock up the market with prime - telling you it’s free but charging you monthly and raising the cost of products so bezos can underpay and treat workers like crap and go to space
 
Apple is perfectly fine to change whatever they want. It is Apple's Business, Apple's Devices and Apple's App Store.

Join the majority on Macrumors and ask Apple to pull out of the pathetic little country called Netherland. Show them who is the boss!

Although I am not in the majority , I would be glad if MacRumors unite together to fight this.
Just because some independent Dutch organization sues Apple, The Netherlands is a ‘pathetic little country’?? Stick to reasonable opinions please.
 
so now even NL is communist :)... LOL you really don't value even your best allies even these days when Washington's Next ;)... so sad to see people like you. so sad that you always are the loudest. Apple = good, use Android. democracy = good, you're a communist (take a look at your government, think some and tell me where your democracy is democracy ;) or why is it better than ANYTHING else (even North Korea)... disclaimer: coming from a country with a terrible history I loathe communism too). those who don't agree, silence them. 1984 but with voluntary monkeys.
If you came from a comunist country, then you perfectly know that something that the left do is to go after the evil capitalism (usually USA multinationals) to get money out of them.
Of course they say that is for financing social programs, but most of the money goes to the politicians and friends of the government.
 
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Woohoo, I like it ? Sue em, sue em!!! It is time for Apple to stop its anti competitive behaviour.

WWDC would be a great chance for Apple to fix things, giving them 6 months to implement til iOS16 is released. Apple should completely change its mind and should start to think different again.

Throw away Apple Tax, proprietary standards and gagging AppStore rules. Enter competition. Stop forcing people to do what you want, Apple. Instead give them (developers) what they want (for cash):
- Best InApp Payment service
- App Hosting service
- Push Notification service
- App Analysis service
- Advertising service
- App vulnerability check service
....

Be creative, be young and wild and earn tons of money.

And finally stop your Lightning dongle and switch to USB-C, it is a standard, just use it and delight people.
 
This is one group of capitalists complaining that another group is more successful and wants a cut.

Smells like mafia to me but propped up by the state.

Why the hell would you want to or even consider risking building a business in that regulatory climate?
What ‘regulatory climate’ do you mean? Of The Netherlands? Not that I agree, but this lawsuit could have come just as easily from any other country with a democratic rule of law, including US.
 
I don’t think you understand Economics.


If your daughter is gonna die and the only cure is 2 million dollars a week, would you go in debt to save her?

Are you happy with the price?
LOL. are you really saying someone’s daughter is going to die so they pay a few extra cents on an app they just gotta have? Something about not understanding Economics and discretionary purchase. What was that again?
 
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