Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Woohoo, I like it ? Sue em, sue em!!! It is time for Apple to stop its anti competitive behaviour.

WWDC would be a great chance for Apple to fix things, giving them 6 months to implement til iOS16 is released. Apple should completely change its mind and should start to think different again.

Throw away Apple Tax, proprietary standards and gagging AppStore rules. Enter competition. Stop forcing people to do what you want, Apple. Instead give them (developers) what they want (for cash):
- Best InApp Payment service
- App Hosting service
- Push Notification service
- App Analysis service
- Advertising service
- App vulnerability check service
....

Be creative, be young and wild and earn tons of money.

And finally stop your Lightning dongle and switch to USB-C, it is a standard, just use it and delight people.
Sue em and keep suing them that’s the easy part. Winning lawsuits is the tough part.
 
Yes!!!!!

Win for the consumers
AppStore has been a massive win for consumers and developers.

Prior to AppStore and Play mobile app market didn’t exist. Now it’s tens of billions of dollars annually.

I’ve made lots of purchases on a whim must because it’s so easy.

I love that all my purchases are easy to restore when setting a new device.

I love that I see all my subscriptions in one place.

Parental controls are great - no need for your kids to have credit cards, they can request purchases.

My parents use gift cards, because they don’t want to put their credit card anywhere.

All this thanks to this horrible AppStore tax which forces you to pay 0,99€ instead of 0,89€, assuming developers would transfer lower comission into end user pricing.
 
Quick question, are you happy with your utility prices?

A lot of people buying gas and diesel might differ on that point.

I guess Nintendo, Playstation, Steam, and Xbox also overcharge their customers with the 30% commission?
I guess all of these people, service providers and companies are also being fined to the millions, we just need someone post the news of this happening. I’ll wait.
 
Not a legal expert, but this case makes no sense.

Essentially, it seems to be arguing that it is unlawful for Apple to earn a 30% commission on its own platform.

But... what about super markets and all other retail stores that also charge a commission, i.e. markup the price?

Should all of those be illegal too?

What law exactly is Apple breaking here?
 
AppStore has been a massive win for consumers and developers.

Prior to AppStore and Play mobile app market didn’t exist. Now it’s tens of billions of dollars annually.

I’ve made lots of purchases on a whim must because it’s so easy.

I love that all my purchases are easy to restore when setting a new device.

I love that I see all my subscriptions in one place.

Parental controls are great - no need for your kids to have credit cards, they can request purchases.

My parents use gift cards, because they don’t want to put their credit card anywhere.

All this thanks to this horrible AppStore tax which forces you to pay 0,99€ instead of 0,89€, assuming developers would transfer lower comission into end user pricing.
Good. Then it should be no problem for Apple to end this App Store enforcement and to live with App Store competition. May the best win.
 
They may not have bought it if they were aware that there was an option to buy it for cheaper elsewhere. But Apple explicitly forbids developers from making users aware that they have any other choices.
Sorry. You are over reaching. As a developer you can’t advertise such in the App Store. Pretty much like Samsung can’t advertise cheaper prices in the Verizon store. Developers can market to a broad range of customers in any medium they choose. They could even have a system of passwords and payments outside of the App Store and then simply submit the app to the store for downloading. Oh it must have options to fully activate, but if customers are already active in their ecosystem, they could use the products. Like Spotify, virtually no one who already wants to not pay artists and subsidize josh Grogan, will pay anything to apple at all

So the sole argument is that people want to regulate pricing without the statutory authority to do so. Has anyone seen what Airbnb charges? Now there is something to go after!
 
  • Like
Reactions: MacNeb
What’s happening on The Netherlands? Is like they are communists now, fighting the evil capitalism. They are going after the supermarkets as well? Easily a 40-60% overcharge from the producer to the aisles…
the difference between Apple and the supermarket chain is that the markup at the supermarket is due to farmers, packers, truckers, warehouses, and supermarkets all DOING SOMETHING that adds cost. Apple forces developers to sell ONLY at their store and puts up a single web page for the product and asks 30% cut. I see a big difference.
 
Why do these clowns expect Apple to provide services for free? Do they think that storage, utilities and staff to run that storage, app reviewers, editors & staff, and technical support are free?

Seriously, what’s in the water over in Europe?
 
  • Like
Reactions: icanhazmac
It is such a shame that Apple didn't develop their own compromise when the chatter started to build, but at least it will serve as a really good example of greed
 
Why do these clowns expect Apple to provide services for free? Do they think that storage, utilities and staff to run that storage, app reviewers, editors & staff, and technical support are free?

Seriously, what’s in the water over in Europe?
Nobody talks about free. Let there be App Store competition for iOS and let‘s see how this will affect prices.
 
Far cry from the dev charging 99p instead of 70p for a flappy birds app- don’t you think? No one is forced to buy anything from the App Store or from Apple itself. No one is forced to buy an iPhone. And Apple should not be forced to give away anything. It’s business - suck it up.
The same goes for Apple too. No one is forcing Apple to sell apps, in Netherlands, in EU, in China, and so on. No one is forcing Apple to sell iPhones, period. Apple should suck it up if it wants to sell in these regions. A country comes up with the laws that it thinks is best suited for its people. You want to do business in that country, you comply. No more dithering shenanigans by Apple. Things are getting serious now. They will bring Apple or any other big tech company to heel if they do not willingly comply.
 
The same goes for Apple too. No one is forcing Apple to sell apps, in Netherlands, in EU, in China, and so on. No one is forcing Apple to sell iPhones, period. Apple should suck it up if it wants to sell in these regions. A country comes up with the laws that it thinks is best suited for its people. You want to do business in that country, you comply. No more dithering shenanigans by Apple. Things are getting serious now. They will bring Apple or any other big tech company to heel if they do not willingly comply.
I agree comply or leave. But to comply apple has to know what it is that it has to do, which has been a moving target.

I’m willing to take a hit on my apple stock price , it it means in the short term apple isn’t giving away billions of dollars due to draconian regulation.
 
the difference between Apple and the supermarket chain is that the markup at the supermarket is due to farmers, packers, truckers, warehouses, and supermarkets all DOING SOMETHING that adds cost. Apple forces developers to sell ONLY at their store and puts up a single web page for the product and asks 30% cut. I see a big difference.
The Apple-made SDK that it’s maybe 50% of the working code in any app, has created itself? The energy to keep the servers running cost nothing to Apple? The R&D to design new hardware and keep customer’s loyalty is free?
 
I don’t think you understand Economics.


If your daughter is gonna die and the only cure is 2 million dollars a week, would you go in debt to save her?

Are you happy with the price?
If my daughter was going to die and there were three choices with the best one and guaranteed cure being 2 million a week, yes.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MacNeb
No, imagine you have a electric toothbrush, and the brush head is proprietary, you have to spend $50+ for a new brush made by anyone, and Apple is the only place to get it. Apple takes $30 off a brush purchase regardless of who made the brush.

You can get a different electric toothbrush, but you can’t find one that you like more than this one.

This is called vertical integration, and this is where the regulators step in to mitigate market power imbalances.


The point is, with iOS apps on iOS devices, there are no alternative distribution channels, thus Apple can charge whatever they want because there is no competition in that specific market segment.
I want Horizon Forbidden West on my PC or get it for less money. No matter where it is available Sony takes a cut and that’s not fair. It’s the game I want to play no others. Why won’t the EU step in and make them sell it at a discount for PC?

/s
 
Why do these clowns expect Apple to provide services for free? Do they think that storage, utilities and staff to run that storage, app reviewers, editors & staff, and technical support are free?

Seriously, what’s in the water over in Europe?
Just h2o without additional Gas from fracking like in the U.S. , we are not fans of lighting taps. ?
 
Last edited:
The state is also suing for the dating apps…
Europe as a whole has sadly being turning to the left in the last years. And is fair to think that politicians are elected according to people’s choice’s.
Actually Europe as a whole has been turning right in recent times, maybe with the exception of Germany. There's hasn't been a "left party" in Dutch government for years, the biggest political party by far in The Netherlands, VVD, is clearly on the right side of the spectrum.

This particular case has nothing to do with the Dutch government.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.