Apple Holding iPhone 4 Press Conference on Friday

[decadentdave]

If it's free bumper offering I won't be upgrading. Not only will they be acknowledging the issue, they also would be using the bumper as an answer instead of actually fixing the real culprit. Absolutely reeks of immaturity to me. Look what Toyota did. Granted, it's just a phone but I'm looking at it from strictly a business/consumer standpoint.

Cars can kill people, iPhones don't. There won't be a recall.

 

[Mackan]

It's going to be a double software fix to a hardware defect. Stay tuned.

 

[bigandtasty]

This press conference could be good or bad; it depends how they hold it.

HOLD IT WITH TWO HANDS!

 

[Peace]

Scott Forstall getting a Twitter account a day before Apple schedules a news conference seems strange for some reason.

 

[Billy Mays]

Cars can kill people, iPhones don't. There won't be a recall.

Except personal injury isn't a requirement for recalls.

 

[iLeoMarc]

You had better check out the news today on Toyota. The black box analysis showed no brake system failure - not software / not firmware / not hardware. They got stampeded and intimidated into a lot of unnecessary scrambling and a black eye for what turns out to be OPERATOR ERROR. The black boxes showed no brake pedal activation BUT full throttle pressure.

So - we'll see what Apple has learned and what the plan is based on engineering analysis.

You do know that Toyota had been saying that those Black Box Analysis isn't reliable when used in cases against them. Further that sample is fairly small being only dozens as described by the Wall Street Journal. But in other news....

Hope we see a reasonable solution for both parties (for Apple and the consumer) because we all deep down want to see Apple continue to exist and produce products we all love!

 

[Poll Smoker]

When did they let the religious hypocrites on here?

When are you idiots going to figure out that you're being trolled?

 

[oliversl]

Ok, this seems to be what we all were waiting for. An official press event from Apple regarding the iPhone 4.

Can't wait ...

 

[bigandtasty]

Just hire Christian Bale or Mel Gibson to speak on Steve's behalf.

Mel would be a great guest speaker, especially with his present status. WTF?

 

[GoCubsGo]

If it's free bumper offering I won't be upgrading. Not only will they be acknowledging the issue, they also would be using the bumper as an answer instead of actually fixing the real culprit. Absolutely reeks of immaturity to me. Look what Toyota did. Granted, it's just a phone but I'm looking at it from strictly a business/consumer standpoint.

Preach on sister!

But compare the iPhone to Toyota? Dunno if I'd be so bold but you carry your sign and I'm sure some will follow.

 

[Jay42]

I'm guessing they'll be announcing the new antenna coating they've quietly slipped into the production process as well as extend an offer to early adopters to swap their phone....

 

[blen]

I tried again to replicate the issue (somewhere where I've replicated the issue before) with the speed test app, and could not replicate the issue.

Holding the black gap, or just leaving the phone on the table resulted in the exact same speeds.

 

[SchneiderMan]

I don't see Apple giving out anything for free.

 

[itsmenyc]

Recall.

Where were you when the millions of Xboxes were failing? or all of those Dell computers? Why weren't people screaming for recalls then?

People are so hypocritical...

 

[cleric]

New Macbook Airs!

 

[GQB]

Rating the phone as "Not Recommended" is the same thing. You're arguing semantics.

How about Apple systematically deleting EVERY SINGLE THREAD on their support forums that mentions ANYTHING about the Consumer Reports report?

Uggh, the fanboyism around here is sickening. MR sure isn't what it once was.

No, they didn't delete 'every single thread'. They deleted rants like the ones dominating this kind of forum. The apple forums are there to answer questions. Threads posted purely as childish ranting were appropriately canned. There are plenty of threads on the issue, including CR discussions.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

Steve Jobs will admit he hasn't changed clothes in a decade. After that he will try to sell mobileme.

 

[Rot'nApple]

Boom.

And it's on Verizon! That'll change the talk of the town.

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[sammich]

Announcement of date of release in second wave countries of the iPhone 4.

 

[Shanpdx]

What about screen protector or similar?

covering the back of the iPhone 4 and side of the iPhone 4 ? (similar to Zagg invisible shield or better)

it could be easier to apply (in apple store or ourselves)

1. apply the software patch to show correct signal
2. apply the screen protector to make it non-conductive

bad idea?

 

[aristotle]

I would love to see some solid numbers of people who actually "own" an iPhone 4 and have experienced a measurable problem in "actual" use of the phone.

According to this press release:
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/06/28iphone.html

Apple had sold "over" 1.7 million phones worldwide. 1% failure would be mean that there were approximately 17,000 faulty units. Is is higher or lower than than number?

According to a Study in 2008, Blackberries had twice the failure rate of iPhones.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10092377-94.html

The iPhone 4 has not been released yet and I want to know if this is being blown out of proportion by lame tech bloggers with no life living in San Francisco or if it is a real problem. Are there really a lot of faulty phones or are android fanboys claiming to be iPhone 4 owners and stirring up trouble?

Need I remind you all of this?
http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/

 

[blen]

I've come to my conclusion with the problem. Whether it is right or wrong, I guess we will find out on Friday.

Let me explain. The issue is two fold.

1. Blocking the antenna of any cellular will degrade the signal quality. This has been confirmed with multiple other devices.

2. The iPhone formula for calculating reception is actually terrible. If you have seen it, you will understand. You either have 5 bars or none. The jump in dB from 5 to 0 is very small.

Number 2 is the key here. Think of it this way: The dB jump from 5 to zero bars is very very very slight in the current formula. If you are already in a low signal area, you should be displaying low bars. Currently, this is not the case, because the formula is wrong. On top of that, you begin to clamp your phone, blocking the antenna, therefore degrading the signal quality even more than the low quality area you are in.

I have never been able to replicate this issue in a good signal area. Only a terrible one. If someone can stand under a cell reception tower, and replicate this issue (5 bars to completely no service) I'd see the death grip being an issue.

But the fact remains: blocking any RF antenna will degrade signal quality. This is fact. It just becomes amplified/dramatized under apple's terrible formula.

 

[Skibsted]

Steve Jobs will admit he hasn't changed clothes in a decade. After that he will try to sell mobileme.

LOL, And after that a new ad for Apple TV that will change everything!

 

[admanimal]

Yeah, it took me all of 5 minutes to sign up with this fake email address.

That's why God invented the IP ban.

 

[Johnny82]

I can't understand why people are excited that Apple has something to say. If anything, people should be upset that genuine customer complaints weren't enough to get attention and instead the media had to step in to really make Apple pay attention. That is of course assuming Apple has anything to say about the problem.

Man, some of you people could have Steve Jobs crap in your cereal in the morning and you would honest-to-god (though I am not religious) thank him for it!