Apple ID for iMessaging

JCA

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Dec 28, 2013
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Hi.

I had what I think is quite a familiar problem with Imessages sent by other people to my iphone being picked up by other apple devices attached to our family Apple ID. Obviously these could be unchecked on these devices but a nosey child can easily re-tick them.

I created a new Apple ID and set my Imessaging to this new Apple ID in Settings > Messages > Send & Receive > Apple ID.

My number now no longer appears as an option on the Send & Receive bit on my kids' ipads. Does that mean they definitely won't receive my imessages?

Sorry I know this sort of thing has been asked before in all likelihood.

Many thanks.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Any particular need to share the Apple ID for iMessage/FaceTime purposes?
 

Syndicate0017

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May 3, 2013
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And this is why everyone should have their own Apple ID.

Except that doesn't really work for families. Without a shared Apple ID, then they wouldn't be able to share purchases. As long as each had an individual iCloud account for messaging then there really wouldn't be an issue.
 

Zcott

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Oct 18, 2009
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Except that doesn't really work for families. Without a shared Apple ID, then they wouldn't be able to share purchases. As long as each had an individual iCloud account for messaging then there really wouldn't be an issue.
Untrue.

Log in to other family member's ID, download apps until you've had enough.
 

Syndicate0017

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May 3, 2013
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Untrue.



Log in to other family member's ID, download apps until you've had enough.

Why complicate the process? You then have to switch passwords when updating apps. Signing in and signing out of Apple IDs seems unnecessary when the simple solution is an individual iCloud account.
 

stisdal

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Feb 28, 2010
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Family Solution

I have a family of 4. We all have an Apple device or two. What I did was set up my iTunes account so we all share apps, but the password is mine only. If they want an app they have to ask me. (or the wife).

For messaging, we all have separate iCloud accounts. This also allows separate iCloud backups...

This setup has worked very well for us for several years now.
 

dhlizard

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Mar 16, 2009
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Except that doesn't really work for families. Without a shared Apple ID, then they wouldn't be able to share purchases. As long as each had an individual iCloud account for messaging then there really wouldn't be an issue.
Families can share an AppleID for iTunes purchases, but each can also have their own separate AppleID for iCloud, Messages and FaceTime.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Families can share an AppleID for iTunes purchases, but each can also have their own separate AppleID for iCloud, Messages and FaceTime.
Yup, that's basically the way to do it these days usually.
 

Stuke00

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Oct 11, 2011
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Except that doesn't really work for families. Without a shared Apple ID, then they wouldn't be able to share purchases. As long as each had an individual iCloud account for messaging then there really wouldn't be an issue.
You can use one Apple ID for purchases and another for iMessage/iCloud etc. They don't have to be the same.
 

Syndicate0017

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May 3, 2013
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Families can share an AppleID for iTunes purchases, but each can also have their own separate AppleID for iCloud, Messages and FaceTime.


You can use one Apple ID for purchases and another for iMessage/iCloud etc. They don't have to be the same.

I don't get it? Is that not what I said? As long as each has an individual iCloud account there would be no issue. HOWEVER, the Apple ID for purchasing apps must be the same otherwise the "everyone needs their own Apple ID" thing doesn't work for families.
 

CosmoPilot

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Nov 8, 2010
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I don't get it? Is that not what I said? As long as each has an individual iCloud account there would be no issue. HOWEVER, the Apple ID for purchasing apps must be the same otherwise the "everyone needs their own Apple ID" thing doesn't work for families.
Not sure if I read your post accurately or not, so disregard if you already know this.

An AppleID is like a key. This key consists of an email address and password.

In settings, you have multiple places to use these keys (i.e., your AppleID's)
(1) App Store & iTunes, (2) iMessage, (3) FaceTime, (4) iCloud

You can use different keys for each of them. Or stated more correctly, you can use differs AppleIDs for each of them.

Typically, families will use the same exact AppleID in Settings > iTunes & App Store. By doing this, the entire family is able to share purchased content. HOWEVER, each member of the family will use a personal AppleID for iMessage, FaceTime, & iCloud.

You can change which AppleID is being used under Settings > (iMessage OR FaceTime OR iCloud). It does NOT have to be the same as what is used for iTunes or the App Store.

Hope this helps.
 

fanchee

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Nov 23, 2009
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Good explanations. I've been trying to figure out the most efficient way to solve the app sharing problem so my 7 year old can have his apps without the rest of my stuff.
 

CosmoPilot

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Good explanations. I've been trying to figure out the most efficient way to solve the app sharing problem so my 7 year old can have his apps without the rest of my stuff.
My above post allows you to do that. Additionally, you can go into restrictions on the 7-year old's device and further limit app content, etc. and since you control the App Store password he or she cannot download without your knowledge.
 

fanchee

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Nov 23, 2009
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My above post allows you to do that. Additionally, you can go into restrictions on the 7-year old's device and further limit app content, etc. and since you control the App Store password he or she cannot download without your knowledge.
Thank you! Just finished doing this now. Extremely helpful!
 

lelisa13p

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Mar 6, 2009
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Atlanta, GA USA
Not sure if I read your post accurately or not, so disregard if you already know this.

An AppleID is like a key. This key consists of an email address and password.

In settings, you have multiple places to use these keys (i.e., your AppleID's)
(1) App Store & iTunes, (2) iMessage, (3) FaceTime, (4) iCloud

You can use different keys for each of them. Or stated more correctly, you can use differs AppleIDs for each of them.

Typically, families will use the same exact AppleID in Settings > iTunes & App Store. By doing this, the entire family is able to share purchased content. HOWEVER, each member of the family will use a personal AppleID for iMessage, FaceTime, & iCloud.

You can change which AppleID is being used under Settings > (iMessage OR FaceTime OR iCloud). It does NOT have to be the same as what is used for iTunes or the App Store.

Hope this helps.
I'm facing this now. Did you physically set up the additional (personal) Apple ID using each device? For instance, would my son need to set up his own Apple ID using his iPhone for iMessage & FaceTime thusly:

Go to Settings > Mail, Contacts & Calendar > Accounts > Add Account > iCloud > Scroll to bottom of page and choose Get a Free Apple ID. This won't remove the primary ID but should then be set up using his own Gmail address that already exists in iMessage & FaceTime (due to a previous attempt)?

We seek to share Find My iPhone & App Store but NOT iMessage & FaceTime.

I'm posting this in different threads because I can't seem to find a definitive how-to. This one is good.
 

CosmoPilot

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Nov 8, 2010
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I recommend creating a new AppleID for each individual person using Apple's iCloud email address.

In my family, the AppleID we use to purchase content is a gmail address. Again, we all use this in Settings > iTunes & App Store.

We use our individual iCloud email addresses' for all the other settings (iMessage, FaceTime, iCloud, Find My iPhone, etc).

Both my kids have iPhones & iPads (the oldest also has a MBP). So using their individual iCloud email as their AppleID for those other setting allows them to keep their own contacts sync'd as well as all the other personal stuff that iCloud keeps sync'd across devices. Obviously, nobody wants my youngest kids contacts in our contact lists, etc.

You mentioned Find My iPhone. I highly recommend you associate this to the individual AppleID and not the main AppleID as this is a part if iCloud. For your kids, you can keep the password in order to manage this feature if needed.

Finally, off topic, but I also recommend setting up 2-step verification for all the AppleID's you create.

Let me know if you need any additional help setting this up.
 

charlituna

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Jun 11, 2008
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And this is why everyone should have their own Apple ID.
For data stuff like this and iCloud yes. Don't want junior turning on contacts and erasing your address book

For iTunes stuff, sharing is still cool.

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Untrue.

Log in to other family member's ID, download apps until you've had enough.
Trouble is that the system won't let you switch willy nilly. Better to just have the one for iTunes and stick with it
 

The Mad Hatter

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Oct 12, 2004
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I just wish they'd key the iBooks bookmarks to same ID as my Safari bookmarks, and not my purchasing ID. The wife and I don't need to share iBook bookmarks just because we read the same books.
 
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