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Hi guys,

I just went on the update system for my MacBook on the UK Apple site, and clicked that I bought it online from Apple (which I did, on my Dad's apple account) and then asked me to login, so I did with my account and it asked me for serial number and purchase date, so I typed my serial number and and chose purchase date 7th Jan, rather than 1st December (when it was actually shipped) and it's just added the iLife '09 upgrade to my cart and said my system qualifies. Am I safe to go ahead and buy it? Could I get into trouble or something for lying about the purchase date?

I'd advise others to try this too, see if it works!

Nick.

http://www.apple.com/uk/ilife/uptodate/
http://www.apple.com/ilife/uptodate/
 
I just tried for the hell of it and lied about the date and it gives me the $9.95 update. Really tempting to do lol, but in the end I wont
 
I just tried for the hell of it and lied about the date and it gives me the $9.95 update. Really tempting to do lol, but in the end I wont

Requires your serial number I believe - but if your serial number and you enter a fake date and it gives you the option to do so (obviously, only serial numbers within the past couple of months), then why not.
 
Requires your serial number I believe - but if your serial number and you enter a fake date and it gives you the option to do so (obviously, only serial numbers within the past couple of months), then why not.

it's let me order it. I ordered it and have est. shipping @ end of Jan. :D
 
Doubt you would get in trouble, how were they to know you that you didn't buy a Mac after Jan 6th paying cash.

The question is, are you morally comfortable with stealing.
 
Doubt you would get in trouble, how were they to know you that you didn't buy a Mac after Jan 6th paying cash.

The question is, are you morally comfortable with stealing.
I paid over the web but on a different account.

Well, I don't see it so much as stealing, seens as I have paid shipping + handling and spent £950 for a laptop I could of got for about £450 with Windows. (And also the fact that I paid $3000/£1500 on an iMac in the past year + 5 Apple iPods in the past 3 years)
 
The question is, are you morally comfortable with stealing.

it's let me order it. I ordered it and have est. shipping @ end of Jan. :D

Guess we have that answer ;)

Well, I don't see it so much as stealing, seens as I have paid shipping + handling and spent £950 for a laptop I could of got for about £450 with Windows.

So that makes it right? :rolleyes:
Anything can be justified if we want to think that way

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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Requires your serial number I believe - but if your serial number and you enter a fake date and it gives you the option to do so (obviously, only serial numbers within the past couple of months), then why not.

Yeah I used my serial from my Mac I bought from Best Buy a month or so ago and it worked.
 
Guess we have that answer ;)



So that makes it right? :rolleyes:
Anything can be justified if we want to think that way

Woof, Woof – Dawg
pawprint.gif

I don't see it as stealing as I have paid money for it and it's not like I have got the disc for free.
@TrippingChris did you go ahead with the order in the end?
 
So that makes it right? :rolleyes:
Anything can be justified if we want to think that way

Doesn't make it "right" - but hey, in the current economic climate - keep your pennies and the pounds will look after themselves ;)
 
? Could I get into trouble or something for lying about the purchase date?

I'd advise others to try this too, see if it works!

Nick.

http://www.apple.com/uk/ilife/uptodate/
http://www.apple.com/ilife/uptodate/

Let's see .... Trouble for lying?

Why?

Anyway, Apple should know the shipping date of the serial number, I guess up to a week or two.

Do it if you feel comfortable in doing it.
Since the computer allows you to it, then there is no technical obstacle.

...or maybe you just want moral support ...
 
Yep the online form will take any fake input and validate it (any valid serial number and a date on or after January 6th)- but it will be interesting to see how well this all works out since it clearly says in the terms and conditions of the offer that:

To receive your iLife ’09 upgrade, you must complete the order form and provide a photocopy of a dated, itemized sales receipt or packing slip indicating the marketing part number(s) of the qualifying system(s) purchased.
which I would certainly imagine would include them checking for the valid date of purchase before shipping it since they require the supporting paperwork to be dated and itemized.

EDIT: Oh and BTW- the link for the order form you need to submit along with the proof of qualified purchase is available for download on the Terms and Conditions page too.....
http://www.apple.com/ilife/uptodate/#terms
 
I don't see it as stealing as I have paid money for it and it's not like I have got the disc for free.
@TrippingChris did you go ahead with the order in the end?

you might as well just download it!
to me it's a bit like stealing from your favorite shop, no need to say it's unethical.
 
Yep the online form will take any fake input and validate it (any valid serial number and a date on or after January 6th)- but it will be interesting to see how well this all works out since it clearly says in the terms and conditions of the offer that:

which I would certainly imagine would include them checking for the valid date of purchase before shipping it since they require the supporting paperwork to be dated and itemized.

Well it gave me a shipping date and delivery date. I cancelled it anyway. Thanks for the info.
 
I did this for Leopard...my iMac shipped with Tiger and two months later Leopard came out. Out of curiosity i tried my system to see if it qualified and it allowed me do it

I didn't feel bad at all. I spend spend too much money on Apple anyway

However for iLife i am legit...sort of...my brother is. He got a MacBook 7th Jan and is entitled to the update program. I'll borrow his CD and install iLife 09 on my Nov 08 MBP Classic...if he allows me...its his after all. Even though he used my education discount. So i help him...he helps me

Not that i'm all that interested in the new iLife anyway.
 
Anyway, Apple should know the shipping date of the serial number, I guess up to a week or two.

Shipping date - if you ordered online from Apple.

Not if you bought from the Apple Store, or a reseller which could even have had stock sitting there since November.
 
Shipping date - if you ordered online from Apple.

Not if you bought from the Apple Store, or a reseller which could even have had stock sitting there since November.

No it says on the upgrade page that if you bought it from Apple Retail store you should do it by post or whatever, but if you bought it directly from the Online Store it takes you to the page asking you to login and such.
 
I did this for Leopard...my iMac shipped with Tiger and two months later Leopard came out. Out of curiosity i tried my system to see if it qualified and it allowed me do it

I didn't feel bad at all. I spend spend too much money on Apple anyway

However for iLife i am legit...sort of...my brother is. He got a MacBook 7th Jan and is entitled to the update program. I'll borrow his CD and install iLife 09 on my Nov 08 MBP Classic...if he allows me...its his after all. Even though he used my education discount. So i help him...he helps me

How is that legit... sort of?
Yes, it is his... for one copy, one computer, unless he buys a family pack

If he installs it... well, it isn't even sort of legit for you to as well

Woof, Woof – Dawg
pawprint.gif
 
How is that legit... sort of?
Yes, it is his... for one copy, one computer, unless he buys a family pack

If he installs it... well, it isn't even sort of legit for you to as well

Woof, Woof – Dawg
pawprint.gif

Technicalities...
 
Don't they know when you registered your computer? When you get a new mac and start it up you have to registered it at that time, dont' you?
 
Don't they know when you registered your computer? When you get a new mac and start it up you have to registered it at that time, dont' you?
Yeah, that's why I don't understand why they don't put a system in a place where the web form only accepts valid serial numbers registered on or after the 6th Jan.
 
Yeah, that's why I don't understand why they don't put a system in a place where the web form only accepts valid serial numbers registered on or after the 6th Jan.

Maybe there is some leeway in the system.
 
I paid over the web but on a different account.

Well, I don't see it so much as stealing, seens as I have paid shipping + handling and spent £950 for a laptop I could of got for about £450 with Windows. (And also the fact that I paid $3000/£1500 on an iMac in the past year + 5 Apple iPods in the past 3 years)
The suite that you are stealing is just one of the reasons you would not have saved £550 with Windows. A Windows equivalent of iLife amounts to a lot of money.

And why are you using this as an excuse anyway? You obviously thought the computer was worth it or you wouldn't have bought it. No one forced you to buy the computer, which is incidentally well priced for the hardware and software it offers.

You think that because you can purchase a Windows laptop with the same processor and RAM yet lacks many other features for less money that this gives you a ticket to steal software?
 
The suite that you are stealing is just one of the reasons you would not have saved £550 with Windows. A Windows equivalent of iLife amounts to a lot of money.

And why are you using this as an excuse anyway? You obviously thought the computer was worth it or you wouldn't have bought it. No one forced you to buy the computer, which is incidentally well priced for the hardware and software it offers.

You think that because you can purchase a Windows laptop with the same processor and RAM yet lacks many other features for less money that this gives you a ticket to steal software?

No but someone who spends over £3000 on one company over 3 years deserves a freebie... I cancelled the order anyway, check my last post in page 1.
 
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