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4850 were both top off the line mobile offerings.

I think 4870 is the best one. Dunno was it available when iMacs came though.

Hyperthreading is a small performance gain at best the lower clock will still hurt the Arrandale too much. Current 2.66 mac pro does certainly not outperform the old core 2 duo top of the line on everything. Core i7 are only faster with a portion of the applications clock for clock that is. Also Arrandale is 35w and this includes he north bridge and graphics. So that's a lot less then current cpu and north bridge. Would seem silly to mount that in such a large chassis.

Don't forget the Turbo again... 2.66GHz Arrandale goes up to 3.33GHz and 2.66GHz and it goes to ~3GHz.

Arrandale is A LOT cooler than Penryns but it depends on Intel are they ready to do a custom ~45W Arrandale for Apple only.

Think it will be a led display and a hotter cpu. Or a redesign for a thinner imac which no one really cares about but it will be beautiful to see.

Q9xxxS series is 65W so it's too hot (needs Northbridge too). Is there any other possibilities then?
 
They should really consider working with Intel in order to make a desktop quality computer, rather then just a stationary laptop.

If they could somehow squeeze desktop quality parts it would lower the cost compared to the current iMacs which use lesser powered more expensive mobile parts.

They might have to dramatically change the form factor, maybe make it thicker, but so be it.

Also video in, it's nice to have a 20 inch monitor but it would be even nicer to be able to plug in a PS3 or something.. and most importantly 5+ usb ports.
 
It'd be interesting to know how much thicker the iMac would have to be to accommodate desktop components that produce more heat. Personally, I wouldn't mind a thicker iMac, since it looks two-dimensional from my perspective anyway. :)
 
Here is one to chew on... the iMac Pro:eek:

Today Intel released the Xeon L3426. It has 4 cores at 1.86 GHz with TDP of 45W. Apple could drop that in a revised iMac "Pro" case with easy access for memory, etc., throw in a nice graphics card and call it a day. I mean really, who doesn't need a iMac as a server right??
 
For me its just two things:

1. Make the hard drive easier to get at. Imagine if it was this hard to access macbook/macbook pros.

2. Make Graphics card changeable.

I realise number 2 isn't going to happen but it would be a great way to get more out of your imac once it age starts to show, especially with the GPU advancements of Snow Leopard
 
For me its just two things:

1. Make the hard drive easier to get at. Imagine if it was this hard to access macbook/macbook pros.

2. Make Graphics card changeable.

I realise number 2 isn't going to happen but it would be a great way to get more out of your imac once it age starts to show, especially with the GPU advancements of Snow Leopard

1. I totally agree! It would be so nice to replace it easier than teardown the whole iMac

2. It's already but there aren't many cards available and they are expensive plus it's quite hard. It would be nice if it was easier
 
2. It's already but there aren't many cards available and they are expensive plus it's quite hard. It would be nice if it was easier
Cards like..? As far as I know, there are no cards at all you can use to replace the current cards in the iMac (drivers, EFI vs. VGA BIOS etc.)

I would really like to see a LED backlit display on the new iMacs, and faster graphics.
 
Cards like..? As far as I know, there are no cards at all you can use to replace the current cards in the iMac (drivers, EFI vs. VGA BIOS etc.)

I would really like to see a LED backlit display on the new iMacs, and faster graphics.

That's true. You can replace GT120 with ATI 4850 though but it's impossible to find 4850 for iMac.
 
Well I think every body would want a Blu-ray capability in the super drive. But also I think apple should include a 512mb ATI radeon graphics card as standard for iMacs:). And I couldn't care less on how thick the mac is as long as its not a chunky as a PC, just that it could really use the desktop parts to buff it up a bit to maximum performance.:DAnd apple seriously need to slash the pricing a bit like by at least $200-$300 I mean I could go out and by the best windows PC for less than $2000 while imacs just start at the $2000 mark.:mad:
 
Honestly, all I want is quad core and USB 3.0. All of these are within reach. USB 3.0 is already on some mobo's and quad core is realistic if H1 2010. And please, don't say quad core mobile is too hot. TDP is not the only thing to consider.
 
One thing they have go to do is get rid of the 9400 integrated cards in them. This card should be for the macbooks only IMO. Certainly not in the iMacs.
 
Honestly, all I want is quad core and USB 3.0. All of these are within reach. USB 3.0 is already on some mobo's and quad core is realistic if H1 2010. And please, don't say quad core mobile is too hot. TDP is not the only thing to consider.

Mobile quads are:

- Expensive
- Quite hot
- Has lower clock speed so high clocked duals and low clocked quads would confuse consumers ("Megahertz Myth")

I say late 2010
 
Didn't the uninformed get confused when core duos first came out? The public would have to get used to it eventually :p

Uninformed = +80%

There are really very few people who really knows something about computers so of course uninformed people think that bigger number means faster and better. Step from Pentiums to Core Duos was huge because Pentiums ran @ 3.8GHz
 
Uninformed = +80%

There are really very few people who really knows something about computers so of course uninformed people think that bigger number means faster and better. Step from Pentiums to Core Duos was huge because Pentiums ran @ 3.8GHz

Thats where the salesman is supposed to step in to help the customer out. ;) Although from what i hear about the Best Buy stores in the US this isn't always the case :eek:
 
Thats where the salesman is supposed to step in to help the customer out. ;) Although from what i hear about the Best Buy stores in the US this isn't always the case :eek:

Salesmen are the biggest liars in the world. They sell you the stuff they have a lot in stock or which has the highest profit for them. Unless you go to a real computer store, salesmen knows nothing and are not helping you, they're helping the company and getting some bread to their table
 
Salesmen are the biggest liars in the world. They sell you the stuff they have a lot in stock or which has the highest profit for them. Unless you go to a real computer store, salesmen knows nothing and are not helping you, they're helping the company and getting some bread to their table

Lucky for us then we live in mac land where we have macrumors and apple store staff to guide us :D
 
As I am contemplating moving to the 21 century next year and replacing my 10 yr. old iMac with a newer generation, will probably wait for a new model and then buy this generation off Apple refurb store and thought this thread will let me know what is lacking in the current model and find some of your thoughts are a little far out. But that just MHO.
I bought my first new Mac in 1995 a Performa 6220CD, it had a PowerPC 603 processor and the speed was 75 MHz, came with 16MB ram that you could upgrade to 64MB, which by the way was what Bill Gates once said was all the ram any home computer would ever need.
Now as for restyling I can't see why or for that matter why would anyone want it any thinner, check out any high end audio or video equipment and you will see they are always much thicker than any consumer units so they can keep cool. I think the old pizza box cases of the 80's that you could take apart by removing 6 or 8 screws where great, just pop of the top and change boards, memory or HD without too much trouble, but I keep my machine in a basement office and no one sees it so who cares what it looks like.
As for a keyboard with a numeral pad on it if you buy new you can order one no charge and it you have one now without you can buy an aftermarket one for around $30. But I agree, why don't they just supply one with the number pad, that is the one thing that stops me from getting any notebook, the lack of a keyboard with a number pad.
As far and Blu Ray goes I don't see why anyone would want to watch a Blu Ray movie on a 20 or 24 inch display. I have a $600 Blu Ray player and a $3500 large screen TV for that.
Now as far as a larger display, the iMac is for home use and is competing with lower priced PC market all the larger screen would do is raise the price.
Now as far as price goes I paid $2500 for my 6220 and had to buy a monitor
for it, my 2000 iMac cost me a $1000 and I had to put in more memory right away. So if you figure those $ in 2009 $ the current price is not that bad, it's just that PC price have dropped a lot faster than Apples.
I was just thinking if any of the staff a Macworld remember that Bill Gates told Steve and his partner that they had a great OS and should market it and franchise it out to other companies and they told him that they sold hardware and were not in the business of selling software. We all know where it went from there, talk about shooting yourself it the foot.
 
Would love to see this in the new iMac:

1. Blu-Ray Drive
2. User replacable HD (so that I could add an Intel x25)
3. Higher end graphics card
4. LED backlit display (like the ACD)
5. Video in (so people could plug in their PS3's and 360's)
 
BlackiMac Pro

Black Pro Model

New iMac design (even if thicker, if better ventilation or liquid cooling)
Silent Running
Matte Screen Option
Faster processor
Better 24” LED monitor
Backlit keyboard
Minimum 500 GB hard drive
Minimum 8 GB RAM
Better Graphics card or cards
USB 3.0 ports (and more of them)
Absolute quality build
 
hey i was skrewing around and made a crappy imac model with less chin
 

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Liquid cooling

Black Pro Model

New iMac design (even if thicker, if better ventilation or liquid cooling)
Silent Running
Matte Screen Option
Faster processor
Better 24” LED monitor
Backlit keyboard
Minimum 500 GB hard drive
Minimum 8 GB RAM
Better Graphics card or cards
USB 3.0 ports (and more of them)
Absolute quality build

Amen to it all (though more than one GPU and USB 3.0 is sadly not going to happen :( )
Wasn't there some rumors about Apple working on a new kind of liquid cooling system some months back, maybe we'll get positively surprised. Think of it, it will be silent and energy saving compared to fans (I think), and it would save space, so there might actually be space for desktop parts, I don't know, but i hope.
Though I'm not completely about just how big an advantage liquid cooling would be compared to air cooling, any ideas?
 
i dont know i have a :apple:emac G4 1.42 ,1gb ram, 64 mb vram
with a really nice crt screen finally again true colours and no more dead pixels :D )

i cant wish for anything really the emac does what i ask it to do , and its (in my opinion) far more stylish then all these flat packed things :p

what about getting a brandnew emac from apple , as retro is in ,see the car manufacturers , see the success of new beetle and fiat 500 and mini ;)
 
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