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This is very clearly one of the ways they intend to pair their VR headset… everyone is saying it’s a computer without a screen… but the headset will be the screen.
This is it. VR/AR goggles are nice, but if you are sitting at a table somewhere there is no good way to do normal computer inputs. Voice is not private enough, hand tracking doesn't have enough fidelity (Though I'd imagine they will have a "project a keyboard on to a virtual desk" mode to act as a software keyboard.) They can fit some more impressive guts into the keyboard computer, but I'd imagine most processing would stay inside the headset.
 
First recent concept I've seen from Apple that seems like a useful innovation (yes, it's similar to past computers, but it's an innovative approach to the existing Mac Mini concept.) I like it.
 
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These are the sorts of Apple innovations we've been missing over the years! Yeah, this is a niche product... but, why not do it? It's pretty handy to have a keyboard built right into your computer (or, the other way around), just as was done back in the early days of microcomputers. What would be even better is if Apple chose to integrate a track pad. Then, all you need is a screen. The Mac mini therefore goes from bring-your-own-peripherals-and-screen, to bring-your-screen.

This would effectively be way less versatile than a laptop, but the whole point is that cost will be kept to a minimum; this ensures corporations and institutions can afford to purchase such devices in huge bulk. And, although it cannot be used in your lap, at least it would be more easily transportable than any sort of laptop or tablet / laptop-tablet combo. There are cases in which users strictly dock their laptops, wherein the need for a built-in screen simply isn't there.
 
How can any company patent something like this, when as the first sentence of this piece says, this is how all home computers were like 40 years ago?

Does anyone still hold rights to a 40 year-old VIC?
 
It's kinda funny this article starts off saying this idea is "reminiscent of home computers of the 80s, such as the Commodore 64 and Sinclair ZX Spectrum" and doesn't mention the Apple II.
 
How can any company patent something like this, when as the first sentence of this piece says, this is how all home computers were like 40 years ago?
The author didn’t even read the patent application. This is a patent for a foldable computing device, and it is absolutely mind-boggling. Click on the link to the application and look at claims 10 and 11, and paragraph [0094].

This is one of the most intriguing patent applications Apple has filed in a long time.
 
Would it connect via AirPlay to the display?

Wonder if you'd connect USB devices to the display rather than the keyboard?

This could be awesome.
 
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Why would it be lower than a Mac mini? You are getting a keyboard on top of basically a Mac mini.
I don't think it would cost less, it would just include a keyboard, which is an expensive Apple item.
It would sell better with a trackpad.
 
Considering an iPhone Pro is faster (in some ways) than a 2015 MacBook Pro, this makes sense to me. The board for one of those devices could easily fit into a keyboard, and have room to grow.
 
Considering an iPhone Pro is faster (in some ways) than a 2015 MacBook Pro, this makes sense to me. The board for one of those devices could easily fit into a keyboard, and have room to grow.
All I know is TV newscasters were using iPhones as their Internet device, when working from home first became mandatory. The iPhone would overhead and shut down. Imagine an iPhone trying to run Mac OS. iPad Pro would probably be okay. Apple needs to see if Mac OS would run on an iPad Pro. Then we don't need the mini at all. At the same time, what impact would Mac OS have on iPad battery life?
How big is that battery in an iPad Pro, the 12.9 especially, versus what we already know about something like the Macbook Air? I see Apple looking into having another Mac that is not battery powered. Some of us don't care to have everything running off a battery.
 
Those that say that the idea is similar to the Rasp-Pi keyboard forget that Apple doesn't have
to use HDMI. AirPlay makes talking to a display much easier.

The patent mentions the possibility of it being foldable. Hmm.
It also mentions inductive charging, keyboard backlighting, a trackpad, and spill proofing.
So it would be very portable and cost way less than a Mac mini setup.

If or when they make this, they'll sell a ton of 'em. And then everyone will copy the form factor.
But the M1 power/watt makes that a tough road for the clones.
 
That’s gonna be one hell of a disaster for cable management. There will be one power cable plugged into the keyboard and one display cable out of it at the very least all the time right in front of you on the top of the desk. It truly is like the 80s again!
 
All I know is TV newscasters were using iPhones as their Internet device, when working from home first became mandatory. The iPhone would overhead and shut down. Imagine an iPhone trying to run Mac OS. iPad Pro would probably be okay. Apple needs to see if Mac OS would run on an iPad Pro. Then we don't need the mini at all. At the same time, what impact would Mac OS have on iPad battery life?
How big is that battery in an iPad Pro, the 12.9 especially, versus what we already know about something like the Macbook Air? I see Apple looking into having another Mac that is not battery powered. Some of us don't care to have everything running off a battery.
Patent mentions inductive charging, so it's battery powered. Portable = battery.
It would have to be. Can't just have it die when usb-c/lightning port power is pulled.
Plus, it doesn't have to power a display like iPad.

The device would have much more cooling mass than iPhone.
Also, the M1 is just the beginning on power per watt.
And I'm sure that Apple had some version of macOS running on the iPad Pro from the beginning.
 
How can any company patent something like this, when as the first sentence of this piece says, this is how all home computers were like 40 years ago?
It's not patented yet, it's just an application. Whether or not the patent will be granted based on the pre-existing designs you mentioned is a completely different question.
 
It's kinda funny this article starts off saying this idea is "reminiscent of home computers of the 80s, such as the Commodore 64 and Sinclair ZX Spectrum" and doesn't mention the Apple II.
The C64 was a slightly bulbous keyboard form factor, so arguably fits with the design currently in question. There's no real way to argue the Apple II was keyboard shaped. It was a large flat box with a keyboard attached to the sloping front of it (and is still one of the best computers ever made). The ZX80 and ZX81 were more Apple II-shaped, but arguments could be made for the Spectrum being keyboard shaped.
 


Apple is exploring the possibility of integrating a fully functioning Mac within a keyboard, reminiscent of home computers of the 80s, such as the Commodore 64 and Sinclair ZX Spectrum.

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Image credit: Vissles

The concept was revealed by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office in a new Apple patent application called "Computer in an input device," which describes a thicker Magic Keyboard-style chassis with "all the components of a high performance computer" integrated under the hood.

The patent describes the premise for such a device, which could be plugged into a separate external display via a single I/O port designed to receive both data and power, and wirelessly paired with a trackpad or mouse for additional input.
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By including the computing components in the keyboard, Apple suggests this could allow a user to carry a single device that can provide a desktop computing experience at any location having one or more external displays.

In some embodiments, the device includes a trackpad "coupled" to the enclosure, while in others the device is foldable and the keyboard area includes an "accessory display" showing graphics, or the keyboard itself is virtually displayed from a projector contained inside the enclosure.

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The rest of the patent explores in detail various configurations of internal computer components within the space afforded by the keyboard chassis.

Apple has filed patents for keyboards in the past, including one that uses a touchscreen panel similar to the Touch Bar that extends to the entire keyboard layout, but this is the first patent to suggest actually incorporating a computer into the keyboard itself.

As with any filed patent, the technology is unlikely to appear in any product soon, if at all, but it does offer an interesting look at how Apple is considering Mac designs that could ultimately replace or be offered alongside the Mac mini, which allows users to bring their own display, keyboard, and mouse.

(Via Patently Apple.)

Article Link: Apple Imagines Mac-Inside-a-Keyboard Device Evocative of 80s Home Computers


So Apple is reinventing the Commodore 64 from the 80's; or are they trying to catch up with the Raspberry Pi 400?
 
Either people live under a rock or else .. this kind of concept for a PC already exists. It has always existed since computer exist. Just quick Google search keyboard computer ...

Don't know what is being patented as an Apple invention. There must be something else beyond what is being described.

PS: This does not look really that interesting in todays day and age.
 
Apple needs to see if Mac OS would run on an iPad Pro. Then we don't need the mini at all.
Apple most assuredly already knows how Mac OS runs on the iPad Pro. They're famous for trying everything in the labs.

And if you mean the Mac Mini when you say, "don't need the mini at all", whoa there - a whole lot of people would like to keep having access to a Mac that isn't limited by having the guts in a 1/4" thick enclosure, and that doesn't have an expensive touchscreen attached, and that spends most of its space budget on battery, and that only has a single USB-C port, rather than 2x USB-A, 2x USB-C, HDMI, 3.5mm and ethernet ports. Replacing the Mac Mini with the iPad Pro would be objectively awful for a whole lot of use cases.
 
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