Kind of cool…. put computing power in keyboard and use a VR/AR for display.
Maybe you would like all the keys as separate devices as well?Why? I think most people who use a desktop don’t use a trackpad and wouldn’t want one. I’m actually a fan of them but I find myself in the minority there. I can imagine if I didn’t want a trackpad but one was attached to the side of my keyboard. I would not be happy about that.
Now you're just being silly. The closest comparison to a keyboard having keys separate would be not having the number pad. That's because unless you do a lot of number crunching it's not needed thus why it's not attached to all keyboards. Most people don't use the trackpad just like the number keys. I'm not against having a combined set though.Maybe you would like all the keys as separate devices as well?
Likely because the articles (or titles) are glossing over that the patent is for some specific implementation or detail, not for the general idea of a computer in a keyboard, which is not novel.How can any company patent something like this, when as the first sentence of this piece says, this is how all home computers were like 40 years ago?
Agreed on the Pi 400.
Magic Keyboard ProIgnoring the bit above, this would definitely be an interesting route for development of Mac mini (or a new product line)!
So I had a look and there are actually no "computer inside a keyboard" patents out there across 124 jurisdictions, so a patent search would give it the all clear. The question is from a novelty perspective, there are clearly computers inside keyboards such as rasberry PI keyboards and also the 80s ones mentioned in this thread. Below are the independent claims for the invention. The first claim is of highest significance, where the only unique feature vs. the prior art (anything similar from the past) mentioned in this thread is "A singular output/input port". In my opinion that does not constitute an inventive step.
Without a case of blatant apple favouritism at the PO this should be denied as it does not meet the novelty requirement. But im not a patent lawyer so IDK
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Of course, applications change between publication and grant... duh? but they need to find a way to formulate a claim that passes the novelty requirement... and here isn't much to go on. The whole patent is like - we put a computer in a keyboard and it has one port! They would need to change the scope of the invention to a specific feature of a computer in a keyboard, and one port doesn't cut it. It has to be something like heat sink or a specific layout that improves performance or something. Nothing in that regard is in the patent. Apple publishes a lot of speculative patents. It will likely en up on Jesse Scott Pullias desk and be denied. His allowance rate for apple is around 80%. He sits in art unit 2657 and deals a lot with apple patents of this nature...I am. The claims in the initial application are often not at all the same as the claims in a patent when it finally issues.
Of course, applications change between publication and grant... duh? but they need to find a way to formulate a claim that passes the novelty requirement... and here isn't much to go on. The whole patent is like - we put a computer in a keyboard and it has one port! They would need to change the scope of the invention to a specific feature of a computer in a keyboard, and one port doesn't cut it. It has to be something like heat sink or a specific layout that improves performance or something. Nothing in that regard is in the patent. Apple publishes a lot of speculative patents. It will likely en up on Jesse Scott Pullias desk and be denied. His allowance rate for apple is around 80%. He sits in art unit 2657 and deals a lot with apple patents of this nature...
The even reference a PIPO keyboard in their NLP section of their IDS form..... I don't see this going anywhere
When e-ink was everywhere I remember seeing an article about a e-ink keys that allowed for changing the keyboard layout. That would be cool to see updated with LCD or OLED.It is 2022, can someone reinvent the keyboard and finally give us a customizable keyboard with Lcd keys? Combination of a stream deck and keyboard? Pretty Please!
Yes, that was a problem for those 2016-2019 laptops. I believe they have made the keyboard a separate unit on the more recent ones.I’ve never replaced a keyboard on a laptop but I know when my old 13” MacBook Pro died they said the keyboard was attached to the whole top of the case so that had to be replaced and it was almost $1000. I can’t remember exactly but I paid under $2000 for the MacBook so decided not to get it fixed
This comment just triggered my memory of an old WebTV device I used to have. That could certainly be better implemented nowadays but I still don’t think mice and keyboards are well suited to TV viewing.I can't work out if this would make a good hybrid type thing as an Apple TV
A product like this would allow Apple to have a low price entry point...even lower than a mac mini.
Yep. and cost of assembly is undoubtedly higher. Arguably the cost of this might be less than the cost of Mac mini *plus* keyboard, though. So you save money if you don’t already have a keyboard (maybe).Why would it be lower than a Mac mini? You are getting a keyboard on top of basically a Mac mini.