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Why? I think most people who use a desktop don’t use a trackpad and wouldn’t want one. I’m actually a fan of them but I find myself in the minority there. I can imagine if I didn’t want a trackpad but one was attached to the side of my keyboard. I would not be happy about that.
Maybe you would like all the keys as separate devices as well?
 
Maybe you would like all the keys as separate devices as well?
Now you're just being silly. The closest comparison to a keyboard having keys separate would be not having the number pad. That's because unless you do a lot of number crunching it's not needed thus why it's not attached to all keyboards. Most people don't use the trackpad just like the number keys. I'm not against having a combined set though.
 
I'll bet it does not come with the block of wood. What a stupid design that you have to use a block to get the correct angle. Let's hope Apple is not this dumb.
 
So I had a look and there are actually no "computer inside a keyboard" patents out there across 124 jurisdictions, so a patent search would give it the all clear. The question is from a novelty perspective, there are clearly computers inside keyboards such as rasberry PI keyboards and also the 80s ones mentioned in this thread. Below are the independent claims for the invention. The first claim is of highest significance, where the only unique feature vs. the prior art (anything similar from the past) mentioned in this thread is "A singular output/input port". In my opinion that does not constitute an inventive step.

Without a case of blatant apple favouritism at the PO this should be denied as it does not meet the novelty requirement. But im not a patent lawyer so IDK

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How can any company patent something like this, when as the first sentence of this piece says, this is how all home computers were like 40 years ago?
Likely because the articles (or titles) are glossing over that the patent is for some specific implementation or detail, not for the general idea of a computer in a keyboard, which is not novel.

BTW, one can currently buy a Pi 400, which is a Raspberry Pi in a keyboard. Quite a nice little Linux machine.

But you can get a Pi 400 for well under $100, and if you manage to spill something on the keyboard, you can get a whole new one for... well under $100. If Apple makes a $500-$1000 Mac-in-a-keyboard, fixing oopsies is quite a different proposition. Macs are expensive enough that having a separate keyboard (where possible, like on a desktop) seems prudent.

"Just a keyboard" but with a bunch of cables hanging off (at a minimum, power and video) doesn't seem very Apple. I suppose it could make a neat living machine, if it displayed 100% by AirPlay to a 4k TV. Hmm.
 
This is a vastly better (and greener) solution than building the CPU/memory into the monitor. It's absolutely insane to have to throw out a wonderfully functional display every time you need a performance bump... I absolutely HATE the iMac business model this way.
 
So I had a look and there are actually no "computer inside a keyboard" patents out there across 124 jurisdictions, so a patent search would give it the all clear. The question is from a novelty perspective, there are clearly computers inside keyboards such as rasberry PI keyboards and also the 80s ones mentioned in this thread. Below are the independent claims for the invention. The first claim is of highest significance, where the only unique feature vs. the prior art (anything similar from the past) mentioned in this thread is "A singular output/input port". In my opinion that does not constitute an inventive step.

Without a case of blatant apple favouritism at the PO this should be denied as it does not meet the novelty requirement. But im not a patent lawyer so IDK

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I am. The claims in the initial application are often not at all the same as the claims in a patent when it finally issues.
 
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If you can connect to an ipad, display, or TV that would be pretty sweet. Less desktop clutter and a new way to go portable.
 
I am. The claims in the initial application are often not at all the same as the claims in a patent when it finally issues.
Of course, applications change between publication and grant... duh? but they need to find a way to formulate a claim that passes the novelty requirement... and here isn't much to go on. The whole patent is like - we put a computer in a keyboard and it has one port! They would need to change the scope of the invention to a specific feature of a computer in a keyboard, and one port doesn't cut it. It has to be something like heat sink or a specific layout that improves performance or something. Nothing in that regard is in the patent. Apple publishes a lot of speculative patents. It will likely en up on Jesse Scott Pullias desk and be denied. His allowance rate for apple is around 80%. He sits in art unit 2657 and deals a lot with apple patents of this nature...

The even reference a PIPO keyboard in their NLP section of their IDS form..... I don't see this going anywhere
 
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Of course, applications change between publication and grant... duh? but they need to find a way to formulate a claim that passes the novelty requirement... and here isn't much to go on. The whole patent is like - we put a computer in a keyboard and it has one port! They would need to change the scope of the invention to a specific feature of a computer in a keyboard, and one port doesn't cut it. It has to be something like heat sink or a specific layout that improves performance or something. Nothing in that regard is in the patent. Apple publishes a lot of speculative patents. It will likely en up on Jesse Scott Pullias desk and be denied. His allowance rate for apple is around 80%. He sits in art unit 2657 and deals a lot with apple patents of this nature...

The even reference a PIPO keyboard in their NLP section of their IDS form..... I don't see this going anywhere

There are more details in the specification that can be claimed, including things about cooling, cord routing, etc. Not every patent needs to change the course of technology history.
 
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It is 2022, can someone reinvent the keyboard and finally give us a customizable keyboard with Lcd keys? Combination of a stream deck and keyboard? Pretty Please!
When e-ink was everywhere I remember seeing an article about a e-ink keys that allowed for changing the keyboard layout. That would be cool to see updated with LCD or OLED.
 
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I’ve never replaced a keyboard on a laptop but I know when my old 13” MacBook Pro died they said the keyboard was attached to the whole top of the case so that had to be replaced and it was almost $1000. I can’t remember exactly but I paid under $2000 for the MacBook so decided not to get it fixed
Yes, that was a problem for those 2016-2019 laptops. I believe they have made the keyboard a separate unit on the more recent ones.
 
I can't work out if this would make a good hybrid type thing as an Apple TV
This comment just triggered my memory of an old WebTV device I used to have. That could certainly be better implemented nowadays but I still don’t think mice and keyboards are well suited to TV viewing.

TVs just aren’t meant for consuming text and the web is full of it. It can obviously work, I just never find it ideal. I like looking down or forward when I read, not up.
 
Why would it be lower than a Mac mini? You are getting a keyboard on top of basically a Mac mini.
Yep. and cost of assembly is undoubtedly higher. Arguably the cost of this might be less than the cost of Mac mini *plus* keyboard, though. So you save money if you don’t already have a keyboard (maybe).

That said, such a machine would be pretty compelling in a lot of office environments.
 
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This makes far more sense than a Mac mini, and would buy several for the house.

Would be awesome as a kids computer and also in the lounge to hook up to the tv [which is exactly what we did with the spectrum, C64 and Amiga growing up.....]
 
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I've got a Raspberry Pi 400, and found it a pretty neat device. If Apple made something like it and I could pair it with an external monitor, it'd be an instant buy for me.
 
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