Apple in Talks With Google to Power Next-Gen Siri With Gemini AI

[hagar]

I’m sure Gemini has had no problems of its own. How are those glued pizzas with small rocks?

But that was unintentional. While Grok is purposely being manipulated to push an agenda. You must surely understand there is a massive distinction.

 

[bassanoclapper]

I don’t care where the servers are, I don’t want Google’s AI on my iPhone

 

[svish]

Interesting to know about this. Waiting to see whom Apple will finally choose. Think the new Siri might happen only with the next version of iOS.

 

[MacATDBB]

Gemini would be an interesting choice. In some testing I asked the same questions to Claude, Gemini and ChatGPT. I then discussed with each LLM the differences in their replies. Claude gave a clear overview of major themes before asking if I wanted to drill down on individual topics. Meanwhile ChatGPT and Gemini both got straight into the weeds with a lot of detail up front but no broad overviews. When asked about this Gemini explained that Claude was very well developed to explain things at a broad conceptual level while it was trained on massive amounts of data to give as much detail as possible. So, it maybe depends on what Apple think its customers want - high-level overviews or lots of detail.

 

[rjp1]

This isn’t as much about the provider as it is their models are beginning to diversify and be stronger with different use cases. That specialization will continue, leaving some generic models for general consumption like chat and others deeper in specific disciplines such as scientific modeling or IaaS. What is happening right now is an open api system is being developed to enable agentic AI. This will allow the functionality described earlier in this thread by name99 which was an excellent post. I completely disagree with him on Apple’s strategic position in this though because Apple will fall on their sword before they embrace open systems of any kind (think blue bubbles) as its not only an aberration to the core identity of the company, it’s antithetical to their business model.

I just want to see options. Same with storage - I’d love to ditch iCloud, but you’re forced into it.

 

[Dirk Pieters]

Not sure where the supposed drama is in Apple not having its own LLM. Not every tech company needs to have every “thing” of their own. Facebook isn’t dying because they don’t have a search engine. Google isn’t dying because they have their own social network. Apple’s business is selling (often great) hardware at premium prices. Search isn’t their business. Social networking isn’t their business. I don’t think AI is their business either.

A friend of mine texted me last night about how he used chatgpt, Google AI studio and Claude to build some stuff for him. Now, I’ll be phasing out a Dynamics CRM solution for a customer soon, which means all their accounts and contacts will need to be exported into something else. I’ll be using Python for that. The Dynamics CRM api uses the typical refresh_token/access_token setup where the access token can expire but you can get a new one through the refresh token.

So I asked an AI to write the Python code to refresh the access token. Of all the choices I had I picked Google AI studio. No real reason other than it was mentioned in the text that I got earlier. The code was written. I’ve used the Dynamics CRM api in other languages and as far as I can tell, the Python code generated by Google looks correct.

Makes me wonder though … does it even matter which AI I got this code from? I’m sure Claude would have spit it out as well. Come to think of it, I bet chatgpt would have too.

So, in the end, does it really matter which AI wrote that code? It certainly doesn’t for me, because it’s irrelevant. The part that matters is that I got the code that I wanted. My customer doesn’t care. Just like they don’t care if I use(d) Stack Overflow for other things.

So, let’s say I’m in Xcode doing some Swift UI stuff. And some AI in Xcode helps me to achieve that. Does it matter if the code was generated by Google, Claude or Chatgpt? No, it doesn’t.

In fact, I’d rather have great code generated by a non-Apple LLM than dodgy code generated by Apple themselves.

 

[The Game 161]

If you want the best Al and get on par this makes sense

 

[benwiggy]

The question is: will Google be harvesting the data?

 

[tomtad]

Makes sense. Apple isn’t and never has been a data company