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Apple increased AppleCare+ Incident Fee
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Exactly why they wrap in AppleCare+ into the Apple financed phone program. 24 payments with upgrade after 12 months. Plus I bet they will keep the second year of AppleCare+ which you know you can get refunded if you ask. I did last phone.
Verizon has "Total replacement" for accidents/incidents...it's 10$ a month, and more for the premium, BUT it covers theft and lost...
Bumping this since Apple now has screen replacement and OOW repair costs for the 6S and 6S+. Absolutely solidifies that I will not be purchasing AppleCare+.
Screen replacement: $129 (6S), $149 (6S+). OOW: $299 (6S) $329 (6S+)
So, given that a shattered screen is the far most likely scenario for a broken iPhone, with AC+, you'll pay $129 up front, plus $99 when you need a repair. Total cost for one shattered screen: $229. For two: $329.
Without AC+, total cost for one shattered screen: $129, for two: $258. Why the heck would I voluntarily pay more?
For the 6S+, it's slightly closer, but still $149, $298 vs. $229/329.
Now, if you completely destroy your phone, you will save $70 for a 6S and $100 for a 6S+. For two destroyed phones, the savings would be substantial, but the chances of that are exceedingly small for most users (I've never done anything but cracked 1 screen in 7 years of iPhone ownership.) So assuming one destroyed device that requires full resplacement: you're spending $129 guaranteed in an effort to save yourself $70 IF you destroy the device. If you merely shatter the screen, you'll be out $100 MORE than without AC+.
A $129 bet to potentially save $70 seems awfully foolish.
Screen replacement: $129 (6S), $149 (6S+). OOW: $299 (6S) $329 (6S+)
So, given that a shattered screen is the far most likely scenario for a broken iPhone, with AC+, you'll pay $129 up front, plus $99 when you need a repair. Total cost for one shattered screen: $229. For two: $329.
Without AC+, total cost for one shattered screen: $129, for two: $258. Why the heck would I voluntarily pay more?
For the 6S+, it's slightly closer, but still $149, $298 vs. $229/329.
Now, if you completely destroy your phone, you will save $70 for a 6S and $100 for a 6S+. For two destroyed phones, the savings would be substantial, but the chances of that are exceedingly small for most users (I've never done anything but cracked 1 screen in 7 years of iPhone ownership.) So assuming one destroyed device that requires full resplacement: you're spending $129 guaranteed in an effort to save yourself $70 IF you destroy the device. If you merely shatter the screen, you'll be out $100 MORE than without AC+.
A $129 bet to potentially save $70 seems awfully foolish.
That makes a lot of sense and I can't argue with your logic. Since I'm doing the Upgrade plan, I don't have a choice, but if I was buying outright, I doubt I would get AC+ given those numbers.
Needs to be stickied and starred somewhere. Applecare+ is the exact opposite of what insurance is suppose to be.
Last year increasing to $99/$79, I still stuck with it. But now, it is not justifiable. I've always purchased AC+ with my iPhones and told all friends and family to do the same. No doubt Apple has put a lot of research into it, but I'd still be surprised if they make up for the lost revenue from people dropping AC+ (like myself) with this ridiculous jump in price.
Who repairs screens for just $129, i have a local guy who did a 5c for 99, I'm not arguing with the point, I'm just curious who repairs out of warranty screens for $129?
Also does Apple+ have value if you consider that is protects you from water damage that DOES NOT break your screen? And that the Verizon $11 Mobile protection covers theft of the device?
Also does Apple+ have value if you consider that is protects you from water damage that DOES NOT break your screen? And that the Verizon $11 Mobile protection covers theft of the device?
I agree that it's not worth it. It was probably not even worth it at the $99/$79 tier, but definitely isn't at $129/$99.
But I have only needed to use AC to replace a phone once (the 4S), and that was just because I shattered the screen from a drop. After that, I've used a case and have not needed to use AC for my subsequent phones even though I've dropped all of them a number of times *knocks on wood*
But I have only needed to use AC to replace a phone once (the 4S), and that was just because I shattered the screen from a drop. After that, I've used a case and have not needed to use AC for my subsequent phones even though I've dropped all of them a number of times *knocks on wood*
I would rather pay apple the extra $30 to replace the screen than have joe blow do it. Also, I would think water damage is a lot less rare than broken screens. Even so, a total lost without applecare+ is only $70 more than if you have it.
Pretty much solidifies that I wouldn't be purchasing AC+, as the worst thing I've ever done is drop the phone and crack the screen. I'd rather pay $130 (x1) than guaranteed $130 + $99.
I live in a city of 35,000 and the closest Apple store is an hour away in a city of 200,000. The local CPU and cellular repair shops charge $200-$250 for screen repairs for iPhone 6's (6+'s are more).
I usually recommend people make an appointment at the Apple Store, make the drive, and enjoy a day of walking around to save $100.
I live in a city of 35,000 and the closest Apple store is an hour away in a city of 200,000. The local CPU and cellular repair shops charge $200-$250 for screen repairs for iPhone 6's (6+'s are more).
I usually recommend people make an appointment at the Apple Store, make the drive, and enjoy a day of walking around to save $100.
Did you not read the thread? It was posted earlier: http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/repair/screen-damage/
Plus, in my experience these third party repair places do a crappy job. Especially with the screen tech for 3D Touch, I wouldn't trust a third party to do it right.
Hmmm... So that means AppleCare+ is only useful if you do more than break your screen. That's good to know.
If by that you mean you are corporate-minded and believe Apple has a fiduciary obligation to increase revenue, then ok (though I'm still not convinced the higher cost will make up for those who will now drop it, like myself).
Perhaps if you think in terms of your car insurance company jacking up your premium AND deductible by 30% in one year, you'd be a little less accepting.
...if that's the only problem you think you'll ever have, yes.
It also gives 2 years of technical and phone support for both hardware and software, covers accidental damage, including water damage, etc., etc., etc.
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/S4575LL/A/applecare-for-iphone
Not to mention that if you purchase it with an Amex card (or equivalent) with extended warranty coverage, Amex will make you whole if something fails in the second year and you get at least the 64 gigs, as they'll reimburse you up to $299 or $399 plus tax (the cost of a subsidized 64 gigs iPhone 6s or 6s+). They also offer accidental damage protection in the first 90 days. This doesn't work with the NEXT plan, etc., though.
I'll go ahead and leave this here too:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-insurance-protection-mega-thread.1913382/
Seems apt.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-insurance-protection-mega-thread.1913382/
Seems apt.
Right, I blame the customers who deliberately damage or swap out their iPhones when they feel like a replacement and think nothing of it. Insurance companies would do the same if more of you cash in on your car, etc. Otherwise, Apple would not have increased the AC deductible to $99 from originally $49 and the OOW replacement cost to $299 from originally $179, which is a much larger increase relative to the rising component costs in the iPhone.
I know that AppleCare+ will give me a refurbished replacement set even if it is a simple case of the display being broken.
Does the same apply if your screen is broken and you pay a flat fee without AppleCare+? Or do they simply replace the screen with the rest of the device as-is? This is actually a pretty big difference, as I definitely prefer a full replacement.
Does the same apply if your screen is broken and you pay a flat fee without AppleCare+? Or do they simply replace the screen with the rest of the device as-is? This is actually a pretty big difference, as I definitely prefer a full replacement.