Apple Increases iPhone SE Orders Amid Growing Sales Pressures

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    In line with Apple CEO Tim Cook's recent comments about "very strong" iPhone SE demand exceeding supply, the company has reportedly increased orders for the low-priced 4-inch smartphone in the second quarter of 2016.

    DigiTimes claims that the second-quarter outlook for iPhone SE-related chip orders has been revised to more than 5 million units, up from 3.5-4 million, and the upward trend is expected to continue through the third quarter.

    In a related report, the Taiwanese website notes that Apple has conversely lowered orders for the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus due to declining sales of the flagship handsets. Last week, Apple announced its first-ever year-over-year decline in iPhone sales, which dropped to 51.2 million from 61.2 million in the year-ago quarter, and provided third quarter guidance that suggests the decline will continue.

    While the lower-priced iPhone SE could help Apple combat its overall decline in smartphone sales, Apple analyst Neil Cybart of Above Avalon notes that the device has a lower average selling price (ASP) and smaller profit margins. Those pressures, alongside other warning signs, leads him to believe that Apple "has a significant iPhone growth problem on its hands" right now.
    One of Cybart's warning signs is that "India is not the next China," despite being positioned as one of the next big growth markets for iPhone. India has reportedly rejected Apple's request to import and sell refurbished iPhones in the country, following a similar proposal rejected in 2015, and its regular-priced iPhones are too expensive to attract significant market share in the region.

    Nevertheless, the analyst ensures that the iPhone business is "not imploding," citing industry-leading customer satisfaction rates and loyalty trends. He believes that Apple can pull through this declining iPhone environment with a strategy that involves ditching the "S" model nomenclature, focusing on features that customers truly want, and recognizing the iPhone SE's effect on its broader smartphone lineup.

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  2. MacsRgr8 macrumors 604

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    Good!
    Now, dear Apple, keep the smaller sized iPhone for a while, please.
     
  3. Crosscreek macrumors 68030

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    Peeps laughed at a 4" phone but 1 month later and I'm still loving mine.
     
  4. vooke macrumors 6502

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    Apple is suppressing supply to create artificial scarcity and hype around the phone
     
  5. kazmac macrumors 604

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    Yes, good news and please :apple: do keep this smaller phone with newer internals and a better price point around going forward.
     
  6. mattopotamus macrumors G5

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    Shhh, it's a flop!

    Don't report this story!!!
     
  7. thespacekid macrumors regular

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    Maybe. I'd like to see some actual sales numbers.
     
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    Only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger.
     
  10. nfl46 macrumors 604

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    I thought it flopped? A 64GB RG is still showing 2-3 weeks to ship. Crazy.
     
  11. Saucesome2000 macrumors 6502

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    Someone on hear last week was saying that the SE models were collecting dust on the shelves. My wife works for Verizon and they've been sold out and having to direct fulfill all storage sizes of the SE for awhile now.
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    Just out of curiosity, what all do you keep on your phone? I take a lot of photos and video and 64GB is more than enough for me. Could not do a 16GB without having to regularly delete things, but I could make it work.
     
  12. MacFather macrumors 6502a

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    Nice try Schiller. Manipulating demand by constraining supply is the oldest trick in the marketing book.
     
  13. bladerunner2000 macrumors 68020

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    That's the proper size for a phone. Nice to see SOMEONE got it right... too bad it's Apple.
     
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    Only $1B in profit every 8 days!?? I think it's time for Apple to replace Tim with a real businessman named Donald.

    I can picture the keynote now: stage-left, two half naked live "Barbie dolls" with white gloves stand either side of a spinning mirror gold diamond encrusted Apple logo leashed with two random lions and the man himself out front donning a royal cape:

    "And we're calling it iWig."
     
  15. aajeevlin macrumors 6502a

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    Probably the same group of people that used to have and filled up their 64GB iPod?
     
  16. Mr. Dee macrumors 68000

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    Apple thought the iPhone 6s 3D Touch would have been a must have feature. I believe the company could have added it to the iPhone 6, but chose to defer it a later to have a selling point. If you think otherwise, you are likely fooling yourself. Apple didn't start working on a faster Touch ID or 3D touch a year ago. They likely had these things ready in the pipeline years ago, but were strategically keeping them back to stretch out upgrades each year.

    The reality is, consumers are practical and fickle and in this saturated market, the iPhone is no longer the standard in smartphones. Its still one of the best to own, but for what most do, that 5s and 4s can still bring value. Worst with the iPhone 6 upgrade cycle that pretty much accelerated upgrades from 2014 to 2015, there was little left. Apple will need to make each year really worth it.
     
  17. pedrom Suspended

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    I don't get it. So what? Every single OEM, Google and Microsoft would trade places with Apple as soon as they could, because Apple has the best business, by far.

    How is it that a continuously growing user-base of the most valuable users of (if not the) the most lucrative industry on the planet is not enough?

    So only making way more money than any competitor could ever dream off isn't enough? What if it drops a bit? What if it drops a really huge amount, and Apple is only a great business like Google or Microsoft? Doomed? Is Google doomed despite being great at exactly 0 things outside of their Ad business? Is MS doomed as well?

    Apple has lots of problems that piss me off and they need to focus on (graphical performance under OS X, the disaster that is the Mac App Store, the disaster that is their Pro Market, the shameful decisions that allow the 13" cMBP and the MBAir being listed for sale on their websites, 1GB Ram and 16GB iOS devices, iPod Nano, 2GB Shuffle, HDD on Macs, Poor Graphical hardware on Macs) and they should think of the 85 % of people around the world that won't/don't want/can't buy their products, but cut the crap with this "doomed" BS.

    At this time, they are the most lucrative public traded company of all time. If they are losers, aren't we all even worse? What is Dell? What is Google? What is Lenovo? What are almost all MR users?
     
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    Interesting evidence.
     
  19. Mr. Dee macrumors 68000

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    Well, the iPad existed before the iPhone. Did you think Apple some how came up with a 64 bit A series processor between September 2012 and September 2013? The company for many years developed OS X on Intel without much public knowledge. So the evidence proves Apple works on a lot of features years and advance. I am sure many are ready years in advance too, but of course, marketing and company leadership might choose when to release it.
     
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    R&D, Mr. Holmes.
     
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    Music, most of it being lossless. Which is why Tidal also takes up a bit of space.

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    Why browse an Apple forum if you've no interest in Apple.
     
  24. gijoeinla macrumors 6502a

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    Anecdotally here in Los Angeles I have done my own spot checks at various retailers.

    I've asked managers at several Non-Apple stores and hands down ALL report the SE is selling briskly even in the shadow of the two for one deals from Samesong's Galaxy line.

    Apple was brilliant to not radically change a cool form factor.

    I have two iPhones. One a principal 6s+ and a backup 6s.. I'm seriously considering the SE for my second phone this September..
     
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    I'm curious if Apple will give the SE its traditional $100 price drop after one year. Can you imagine a $300 iPhone in early 2017 with iPhone 6S internals?? If Apple's looking for a way to get into the low-mid end, this is a great way to do it.
     

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