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WardC said:
Apple needs to pay attention to the only REAL serious computer they produce, the Mac Pro, the Power Macintosh of today, and stop their chicken-sh*tting with the iToys....if they don't get their game together, the serious computer users are going to abandon Apple and go elsewhere for real Power computing needs, if they can't be met by an Apple box anymore. And don't even start with the iCloud, that is a plan for total domination of the information ecosystem, with all of your sensitive data, photos, preferences and behaviors stored in a server farm in North Carolina...and I can guarantee you the uses of that data won't be 100% benign if the wrong people get their hands on it.

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Yes, and when the US can't repay their debt and China takes over full control of our economy and confiscates the iCloud infrastructure, your sensitive data will be under full control of the Chinese, where they can use that data to turn you to Socialism and bow to them. It's a direction that quite frankly scares me, iCloud is not as benign as it seems and may prove to the demise of the information age, when all of your private data and preferences are held on a remotely-controlled computer system (that can be hacked as well, I might add)

Get out your tinfoil hats... Jeez
 
You live in dreamland. iPhone shortages = no phones to buy = fewer sales.

I don't know if I agree with you. People are intriqued by seeing the lines in front of the Apple stores. They wonder what they are selling. Why are people there waiting all night. Then they want in on it. Then the news is covering it. It basically becomes free advertising. Which raises the desire for the product and makes more people want to buy it. I believe it is in Apples favor to release a product with not enough to go around initially.

Maybe with a normal product you would be right but for Apple I just don't think so. :D
 
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OR they release a product with as much available as they can possibly build and it still sells out.

They don't have to artificially limit supply, their maximum possible supply is still dwarfed by demand. They have their cake and eat it too, if you will.
 
Personally I'm more excited for IOS5 then I am the new iphone, because I might not upgrade my phone.

Rumor has it a re-design, in which I would upgrade for sure.


SO we will see!
 
Per the much-repeated "logic" against a new iPad launch this year, if the iPhone 4 is selling so well, why should Apple bother releasing an iPhone 5?

In new iPad "logic," it apparently makes no sense for Apple to launch a new device until sales of the device it is replacing begin to fall off. But, let me guess, the iPhone 5 is different because...
  • there's no picture of Steve Jobs standing in front of a Keynote slide that reads "2011: the year of the iPhone 4"
  • the "pattern" (1 iteration) of iPad launches proves we can't possibly get a new one until March, while the "pattern" of iPhone launches says we must get a new phone this year (and it's a little late)
  • etc.
 
Per the much-repeated "logic" against a new iPad launch this year, if the iPhone 4 is selling so well, why should Apple bother releasing an iPhone 5?

In new iPad "logic," it apparently makes no sense for Apple to launch a new device until sales of the device it is replacing begin to fall off. But, let me guess, the iPhone 5 is different because...
  • there's no picture of Steve Jobs standing in front of a Keynote slide that reads "2011: the year of the iPhone 4"
  • the "pattern" (1 iteration) of iPad launches proves we can't possibly get a new one until March, while the "pattern" of iPhone launches says we must get a new phone this year (and it's a little late)
  • etc.

Although the iPhone 4 is selling well, it isn't as powerful as other, more modern phones being released right now. Have you seen the Galaxy S 2? Its selling by the TON across the world. They hit the multimillions only a short time after it released.

And, well, although the iPhone is a great phone, right now I wouldn't buy it. I have an upgrade and even if there was no iPhone 5 coming, I still wouldn't' get it. I'd rather get a dual core Android phone.

Of course, I don't know what percentage of people I speak for, but I know there are tons out there who just don't like the iPhone because it has a horrible design (no matter how you look at it, you have to admit this), the screen is pretty small, and, well, iOS is somewhat boring.

They're changing some of that with iOS 5 so I'm looking forward to that, however it seems that they're just playing catch-up with Android on the new software innovations.
 
And yet, 20 million iPhones were sold last quarter, a mix of a one-year old design (iPhone 4) and a two-year old design (iPhone 3GS).

The geriatric iPhone 3GS outsells almost all Android handsets.
 
And yet, 20 million iPhones were sold last quarter, a mix of a one-year old design (iPhone 4) and a two-year old design (iPhone 3GS).

The geriatric iPhone 3GS outsells almost all Android handsets.

But iOS < Android. (In terms of sales numbers)

It's different when you only have one phone and one OS. When you have 20 phones over 1 OS, you can't just compare iPhones and "any Android phone".

Don't get me wrong, the iPhone is great, but it is a pretty bad phone in itself. The OS is what people like. The design is crap.

On the other hand, with Android (and you can extend this to a Windows/Apple argument), people buy the hardware and have to "live with" the software.

People love Apple hardware on computers but don't like the OS and prefer Windows. Sadly, you can't do that.

And I'm also not the average consumer who doesn't mind not being able to view flash video, look at widgets which give me real time information (something iOS should really start having [and the pull down drawer or number icons don't count]), and the many other, somewhat nerdy, things I like doing.

I don't think one is better than the other, but simply stating one is better due to sales when it doesn't correlate with the data doesn't make sense.
 
And I'm also not the average consumer who doesn't mind not being able to view flash video

Actually, last time I saw stats on this, iOS users very much want to view Flash content. iOS users clicked the "download flash" option over 1 million times in a single month trying to play Flash content. Then, they find out that there is no Flash player for their iDevice (because Apple decided for them). People who buy iDevices are not voting against Flash; they're voting for the rest of what an iDevice can do. They find out later that one of the things it can't do (by a corporate decision, NOT a hardware limitation) is Flash.

Obviously, I favor the OPTION to download a Flash player app for those interested in running Flash on their iDevices... even it will "crash Safari every day", "burn my batteries faster" and the slew of other reasons offered up in defense of Apple choosing for it's customers rather than letting each user choose for themselves. Personally, I sometimes need access to certain Flash presentations (which are NOT just video) and can't do that with any of the iDevices. It would be nice to have the OPTION (which is not saying it should be forced on everyone else). It would make the iDevices even more valuable and an even better mobile alternative to lugging along a laptop or waiting until I can get to a desktop.

I don't want to turn this into yet another "die Flash die" tirade for the crowd who goes with whatever way Apple happens to lean on anything... just sharing the facts that more than a million iOS users in a single month wanted to download a Flash player for iOS to access something they wanted to see, and that I personally would prefer getting to download that OPTIONal player on my own iDevices rather than have Apple decide for me.
 
whats with the production of soo less iphone 5's in the third quarter? and yet so many iphone 4's and 3gs, close to the iphone 5's launch and even after? just produce mass quantities of the iphone 5 so everyone in the world can get it soon!
 
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